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Smallville: 8x22 "Doomsday" - Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the episode and the season

  • Episode: Excellent

    Votes: 4 6.7%
  • Episode: Good

    Votes: 10 16.7%
  • Episode: Average

    Votes: 17 28.3%
  • Episode: Bad

    Votes: 12 20.0%
  • Episode: Terrible

    Votes: 9 15.0%
  • Season: Excellent

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • Season: Good

    Votes: 18 30.0%
  • Season: Average

    Votes: 13 21.7%
  • Season: Bad

    Votes: 7 11.7%
  • Season: Terrible

    Votes: 8 13.3%

  • Total voters
    60
You just have to get him moving faster than 10 meters per second per second, which I think is escape velocity, which is how they got rid of Doomsday in the Comics while he was resurrecting quite slowly after he and Superman sniffed each other in their first final battle.

I vaguely recall Doomsday wiping the floor with the Justice League not long before that.

Dude can't fly.

Remember how the speeders were knocking over the AT-ATs?

Impulse snares Davis around the neck with a larriet and the other end is attached to a space heading rocket.

Billionaires.

They're not to be fucked with.

Riiiiii-ght.
 
Actually, it's probably easier than that. Doomsday is still vulnerable to magic. Zatanna wants to bring her father back to life but the spell to do so requires a death to balance things out.

The wise thing to do would be to call up Zatanna and say "hey, you know how you need to kill someone to bring your father back to life, well, I think I've found the perfect candidate. He's an unstoppable killing machine who cannot be harmed by mortal means. Magic is the only thing that can hurt him, so we might as well do something constructive."

Assuming that the portal Zatanna's spell created leads directly to the afterlife, do not pass go do not collect $200, there would be no way for doomsday to recover from it. If he could recover, then shooting him into space would be a good idea.

Given the scope of her abilities, she could probably remove Doomsdays powers altogether, but it would be more productive to use him as a ritual sacrifice, (and it's kind of stupid that no one though of using a villain as a ritual sacrifice in her episode, given how simple the solution is).
 
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The point is, regardless of who was right or wrong (or who failed or was successful), Ollie, being an Earthling, has a right to protect his planet.

Which he is incapable of doing. A few Kryptonite arrows are not going to get the job done.

Killing Davis is impossible. Faora stabbed Davis, not Doomsday, through the chest and he healed with his skin becoming unbreakable. They gassed him with Kryptonite and he got back up!

What is it exactly that you all think that Oliver can do about Davis ?

:brickwall: Reading comprehension...it is not hard.

Yes. Ollie who didn't have the whole story was probably overconfident and screwed up and should have deferred to Clark's plan. That is not what I am debating with you.

However, Ollie has a right to attempt to protect his world from threats, no matter if the threat came from Krypton or anywhere else. This is the point I am trying to make.

Actually, it's probably easier than that. Doomsday is still vulnerable to magic. Zatanna wants to bring her father back to life but the spell to do so requires a death to balance things out. [snip]

That is actually not a bad idea given her Smallville background. It would have at least been worth a try.

I'm trying to think back. What was Ollie's plan anyway? To kill Davis? How? I don't think the episode really got into it before Chloe mucked things up and split Davis/Doomsday.
 
So if I've got this right, you both agree that Oliver is an idiot, Broccoli just thinks he has the right to be an idiot? :p

You're also forgetting that Clark was accomplice to the attempted murder of Davis, watching him die writhing in a tank of kryptonite.
What the hell was Clark supposed to do? It's fucking Kryptonite. He was about ready to fall over just a few meters away, how can he save someone coated in the stuff?

And there was no writhing.

Dude can't fly.

Remember how the speeders were knocking over the AT-ATs?

Impulse snares Davis around the neck with a larriet and the other end is attached to a space heading rocket.

Billionaires.

They're not to be fucked with.
Riiiiii-ght.
You expect anything different from Guy Gardener? :lol:

(and it's kind of stupid that no one though of using a villain as a ritual sacrifice in her episode, given how simple the solution is)
You're really watching the wrong show if that's what you think the Heroes should be doing.
 
What the hell was Clark supposed to do? It's fucking Kryptonite. He was about ready to fall over just a few meters away, how can he save someone coated in the stuff?

Seriously, nothing Clark could have done would have "saved" Davis there. Davis chose that fate anyway.
 
The problem is that every single major threat that Clark has dealt with is the direct result of Jor-El's decision to send him to Earth. If Jor-El had not decided to save his son, Earth would never have been in danger from Kryptonian threats in the first place. It's disenginuine to state that he was sent to Earth to protct it. He was sent to Earth to protect him, the welfare of six and a half billion humans was always of secondary concern.

Um ... Jor-El was not responsible for Krypton exploding. The meteorites STILL would have hit Earth and created all the freaks (that only Clark can deal with).

You can't GET a more Kryptonian threat than chunks of the very planet itself. And Jor-El had nothing to do with that.

--Ted
 
^ It could be argued, based on the fact that the only meteor rocks that we see in space in the pilot are all surrounding Clark's ship, that whatever method of propulsion the ship used to get to Earth brought the meteor rocks with it. No ship, no meteor rocks hitting Smallville, no meteor freaks.
 
What would red kryptonite do to Doomsday?

Giffen had a Defenders Story stipulating that after the Hulk had a good shag, he right quick deflated into Banner.

What pluck Doomsday have left, after a good fuck?

And the Body Swapping talisman/tech luthor used in seaon four?

Regular Krytonite plus electricity would give the power of doomsday to some other sod.

If Parasite could downpower Clark, then why is/wasn't he the ultimate nemesis for davis rather than the farmboy?

Put him out of Phase like that Ghost meteor Freak can do who dragged Lex sideways dimensionally a few years back. Which is just another version of the phantom zone really? See how long it takes him to starve to death.

Send him to the future to fight the legion? Fuck that! Send HALF of him to the future to fight the legion. You could do the same with the door to the fortress int he inidan caves, or just a chainsaw, but then you run the risk of both of them growing into a fully fledged Doomsday. Would two or more doomsdays team up of fight like Highlanders? What if davis was cut and cut over and over again until there were hundreds of them jockying for dominance like the bloodstorm of Lobo's vying for determined to be the mainest main from one side of apocolypse to the other in Young Justice? Oh? The pretty blonde teleporter who went on to be on Shark, she'd do the business too... Hells if you're going to teleport him intot he future for a fair fight, why not instead teleport him 10 billion years into the future where/when there might not be any life left for it to kill?

Why the hell didn't he legion come back since with or without superman, the future seemed constantly samey?

Maxima wanted a Kryptonian to roger senseless, if I must draw this back to sexy ways to kill people.

wan't there a blue kryptonite from seaosn 7 which rendered these aliens powerless without killing them?

Why didn't Brainiac take over Doomsdays body? Wasn't it possible for Kryptonian tech like he or Jorel to assimilate the guy?

how abut tht guy who could erase memory and wiped Clark in seaosn 5 or so when he just usually took a couple minutes form humans?

Did that hottie with the will sapping talisman from seaon two asking questions for lex make it out the end alive and with her toy?

World of war Craft.

I'm serious.

Get him a gratis account for a week, and after he's hooked, we'll never see him again.

O.

Why didn't the legion just travel back in time just a little further till when davis wasn't yet the beast since the future was alreadying swaying from one extremely indifferent and samey definition of beige to the other, that even if the premature murder of super man doesn't change the shape of things to come then what could?
 
That WASN'T "the fight with Doomsday". It's still coming.




I hope you're right about that, because I really, really felt that Clark's conflict with DD was about as lame as you could possibly get. In the eight years I've watched this show, that was the worst season finale they've done.

I do have to disagree though with your assessment of Chloe as a character. Until all of her internal strife this past season, I really do feel that she's been the heart and soul of this show.

Just my .02 worth.
 
Of course she's the heart and soul of the show. But she's just a little girl girl trying to pump blood and spirit frm one side of a beached whale to the other and back again.
 
Of course she's the heart and soul of the show. But she's just a little girl girl trying to pump blood and spirit frm one side of a beached whale to the other and back again.


Well, as long as she keeps coming back, there's still hope for this beached whale!

:lol:
 
If Allison leaves I'm leaving...it has been looking like the writers have been finding ways of trying to write her off and she refuses to leave over the last two years. I was worried that Chloe would be one of the vetern deaths in Doomsday. I'm sure I'm not the only one around here who still has remained with the show because of Chloe...she's unique in the Smallville mythos!
 
^+1, really.

Temis is going to give me grief for this, but I only watch the show for her these days.
 
Everyone else pisses me off, so that equates to the same thing.

it's not that she's better written, it's just I'm more forgiving of someone that adorable.
 
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