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Moar Lost in Space/TOS picz!!
Moar Lost in Space/TOS picz!!
Singly most hated & despised ep of the whole 79
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Here's one I actually worked on, though it's a photo of the picture...
Everything you see here is manipulated. It was a picture of Manhattan on a sunny day, a photo of rough seas, a picture of clouds, one of rain, a still of the Flying Sub under water, and then I artificially lit the "headlights" & lens flaired 'em, then had to change the values on the Sub to match the darkness of my artificial storm.
I'm not going to get into the debate about CG vs models. I'm just going to chime in that almost all of the story problems with "And the Children Shall Lead" would have been solved with a line or exchange of dialog of 2/3 lines between Kirk and Spock when they first went into the cave at the beginning of Act One, with Spock commenting on Vulcan legends from the area, and noting that the conquerors were called 'Gorgans'. I shake my head every time at that stuff.
Spock's Brain
Why?
"And the Children Shall Lead", hands down. I actually liked "Spock's Brain".
The music was probably the worst aspect of "The Savage Curtain".
Really? What was so bad about it? I love that episode.
Yeah, I can see what you're saying about the lack of scope. Although even with the limited resources they had, it still felt "bigger" than the indoor sets, somehow. All a viewer needs is a bit of imagination to fill in the rest!
Well...I think that episodes that depict actual historical characters have a built-in disadvantage - it's really hard to make an iconic character such as Abraham Lincoln "feel" right, and the more screen time the character has, the harder it gets.
I don't think Lincoln felt right here, and I expect other people have the same problem. That's a pretty major flaw, IMO. Plus, even for Trek, it's pretty dang preachy. I don't dislike the episode, but it's not one of my favorites.
I don't think Lincoln felt right here, and I expect other people have the same problem. That's a pretty major flaw, IMO. Plus, even for Trek, it's pretty dang preachy. I don't dislike the episode, but it's not one of my favorites.
The Savage Curtain is one of the worst episodes of Trek. It's annoyingly preachy in the worst possible way, pitting good and bad historical figures against each other in a cheesy lesson... It's Trek at its worst.
Mudd's Women was also really awful, in a different way.
The Cloud Minders, Catspaw, Omega Glory also sucked. But I have to say that I still haven't seen Spock's Brain, The Way to Eden or And the Children Shall Lead - because of all the bad things I've heard about them... But I plan to pluck up courage and see them one of these days...
What?!? "The Cloud Minders" and "The Omega Glory" are two of my all-time favorite TOS episodes!! 
How could you NOT like them?
How could you NOT like them?
Spock's Brain is often underated IMO (it has some amusing bits, like the OTT lighting when McCoy is operating - reminds me of old black and white horror movies) and The Way To Eden has its (occaisional) moments, interesting ear makup and Spock in a jam session 
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Oh, Purist, you poor thing - no, I am not being sarcastic. Lots of people dislike "The Omega Glory" - I rather like it myself, but you can find it mentioned once or twice (in addition to DevilEyes' mention, I mean) right in this thread. This is the first I've ever heard of anybody really hating "The Cloud Minders," though, if that's of any comfort to you.
The Cloud Minders... also sucked.*grabs phaser#
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I don't think I "hate" or "despise" any of them. There's just episodes I love, episodes I like and episodes I'm probably not in any hurry to watch more than once or twice in my lifetime.
Charlie X would be one. I know a lot of people like it, but I was never able to get into it.
Charlie X would be one. I know a lot of people like it, but I was never able to get into it.
That is PERFECTLY said. I have no idea why I wasn't able to verbalize that, but that's exactly how I feel. Except for "The Mark of Gideon," which I still will watch every few years in the hope that I was wrong in remembering it as sucking (although it always does anyway).
That surprises me about "The Omega Glory" - I've always thought it was one of the better episodes in conveying scope, in feeling "bigger," and in the raw action-packed power of an adrenaline-fueled space adventure!! Seeing Kirk go up against another starship captain - a "peer" of his, if you will, which we never really see - is really cool. Kirk never really went up "against" Captain Decker, and Decker was just a shell of his former self. Captain Tracey, on the other hand, is at the top of his game; he's every bit as knowledgable as Kirk, as clever as Kirk, and as much of a paragon of sheer masculinity as a frontier starship captain has to be. Tracey uses the same tactics Kirk does, but instead of using them for the powers of good, he uses them to advance his own twisted plans. When they talk, they talk as equals, from one starship captain to another - each one knows what it's like to be the other. "You have a well-trained Bridge crew," Tracey tells Kirk after Kirk fails to beam down a platoon's worth of hand phasers, "My compliments." Yet they're still at odds, and Kirk even initially looses against Tracey in physical combat. Morgan Woodward (Tracey) makes for one badass TOS "villain," bringing all the grittiness and reality from the Westerns he starred in so often (he even fires the phaser from the hip, like in Westerns).
I guess people are turned off by the far-out (but really cool) concepts of an alternate Earth where Americans have turned to barbarism in order to survive the fallout of a bacteriological war and perceive this as "jingoism" or whatever, but there are a LOT of cool concepts in that episode (the Kirk/Tracey thing, for example) that are really the main focus of the episode and provide some interesting and gripping dichotomy.
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AWESOME commentary, Purist- I SO reach!!!I've always thought it was one of the better episodes in conveying scope, in feeling "bigger," and in the raw action-packed power of an adrenaline-fueled space adventure!! Seeing Kirk go up against another starship captain - a "peer" of his, if you will, which we never really see - is really cool. Kirk never really went up "against" Captain Decker, and Decker was just a shell of his former self. Captain Tracey, on the other hand, is at the top of his game; he's every bit as knowledgable as Kirk, as clever as Kirk, and as much of a paragon of sheer masculinity as a frontier starship captain has to be. Tracey uses the same tactics Kirk does, but instead of using them for the powers of good, he uses them to advance his own twisted plans. When they talk, they talk as equals, from one starship captain to another - each one knows what it's like to be the other. "You have a well-trained Bridge crew," Tracey tells Kirk after Kirk fails to beam down a platoon's worth of hand phasers, "My compliments." Yet they're still at odds, and Kirk even initially looses against Tracey in physical combat. Morgan Woodward (Tracey) makes for one badass TOS "villain," bringing all the grittiness and reality from the Westerns he starred in so often (he even fires the phaser from the hip, like in Westerns).
I guess people are turned off by the far-out (but really cool) concepts of an alternate Earth where Americans have turned to barbarism in order to survive the fallout of a bacteriological war and perceive this as "jingoism" or whatever, but there are a LOT of cool concepts in that episode (the Kirk/Tracey thing, for example) that are really the main focus of the episode and provide some interesting and gripping dichotomy.
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