LOL! Good strategy works in any situation!
Since when does the Federation act like war criminals and Nazis?
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Even with Battlemechs!
The Klingons just made a point of acting against any kind of interstellar convention when they destroyed the admiral's ship, and I'm not sure they were done killing people. If we can't have nice things, you can't have nice things. Agreements aren't made for one side to appear holier-than-thou. They need a reason to come to the table.
I'm pretty sure the writers simply missed it the other times, too. It's clearly not something you'd immediately think of. But once you notice it, in retrospect, it really should have happened different.
The same for the other instances something like that happened in Trek.
It's just not very easy to write a gritty war story and have some clever, unexpected battle-twists. Usually, someone in real life has already tried something like that and people have opinions on that matter. Which a writer might not all know, or think of in the moment of creation.
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First you'd have to show where Trek established that there is an equivalent of the Geneva Convention which prohibits the action.
Has it?
Well no, you just need a moral compass. Rules don't have to be written down to be worth following.
I just assume every television writer don't necessary wants it's heroes to be war criminals under the Geneva convention. That really should be enough.
Actually, this whole debate ties into my growing concept that Georgiou was really the one most responsible for the war through her ineffectual decision making. They may blame Burnham, but that's not entirely fair.
I don't mind that it's not fair - real life isn't either and it makes for a more interesting dynamic than your classic redemption arc. But I'm surprised that Trek presents it that way.
I don't mind that it's not fair - real life isn't either and it makes for a more interesting dynamic than your classic redemption arc. But I'm surprised that Trek presents it that way.
Do you know what's also a war crime? Surrendering your ship, waiting for the enemy to board it, and then blowing it up.
Would have been a bit of a bummer though if the scene had played out like this:
"My God, Bones, what have I done?"
"What you had to do. Broken the Convention of Altair IV, Article 7, for which reason, I am placing you under arrest"
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I doubt the Geneva Convention applies in space.
The Vulcan Hello certainly implies ruthlessness — do what it takes to win, don’t assume your cultural niceties are those of your enemy. The Vulcans had quite a bit to do with rebuilding Earth and forming the Federation and their sensibility might be here as well. Had Burnham gotten her way at the beginning with a preemptive strike, further casualties might have been averted.
The Vulcan Hello certainly implies ruthlessness — do what it takes to win, don’t assume your cultural niceties are those of your enemy. The Vulcans had quite a bit to do with rebuilding Earth and forming the Federation and their sensibility might be here as well. Had Burnham gotten her way at the beginning with a preemptive strike, further casualties might have been averted.
The Deneva Convention, then?
Works better than I would think, actually.The Deneva Convention, then?