Simon Pegg, Doug Jung To Write Star Trek 3

[Malaika]

Oh in some way I agree that Marcuss was the real villain, but Simon implied that Khan wasn't in the movie and he was referring to the villain Benedict was playing. It wasn't even the only example, he lied (along with Alice Eve) in another interview too, they said there was no khan.
He can't get angry because people say he lied when he is admitting himself that he did and he's proud of that?

Now that he's a writer I can't even imagine what he will say in interviews I only know that I won't trust him being honest.

 

[HIjol]

Interesting perspective, Malaika. I guess I took his statement, and the statements of others in the same boat, to be that there was time for truth but it was not that time. In other words, he (and others like him) was either inclined to not spoil the suprise, or in other circumstances, secrecy and control over production and script details are the order of the day. I think we can trust him ok, just maybe not count on him to spill the beans and ruin a major chunk of a film for a lot of people.

 

[Malaika]

Interesting perspective, Malaika. I guess I took his statement, and the statements of others in the same boat, to be that there was time for truth but it was not that time. In other words, he (and others like him) was either inclined to not spoil the suprise, or in other circumstances, secrecy and control over production and script details are the order of the day. I think we can trust him ok, just maybe not count on him to spill the beans and ruin a major chunk of a film for a lot of people.

I'm all about secrecy too. If I were a writer you wouldn't know a thing from me
but I think it's better to not comment rumors at all or be vague and teasing (like the other actors did) than do what Simon did..
In my case, his interview ruined my fun more than the spoilers and speculations of the fans because he made me hope that the villain was another (and I was one of those who were doubtful about the speculations). The 'surprise' to not ruin wasn't really a surprise about this new exciting plot and villain no one could expect, as much as it was them trying to hide the fact that they ultimately re-used a villain that they knew a lot of people wouldn't like for a number of reasons (and that not even all the writers liked)
In short, he just tried to delay my disappointment but ultimately made it worse in the end.

Lindelof did a similar thing, and worse, as a writer in 'Lost'. For years they denied that the show would use a certain plot device and mocked those who speculated about it and yet, in the end he did a complete 180° turn on a lot of things he had said that were contradicted by the finale where they in fact used that plot device they swore they would never use.
I'm not one of those who think that the writers owe the fans and the latter are justified when they are entitled.
But there must be a middle ground between not wanting to tell us everything/spill the beans and manipulation, dishonesty and lack of integrity.
just my two cents

 

[HIjol]

And all worthy two cents it is. I think I understand.

 

[JWPlatt]

[Pegg lied, lied, lied about Khan]
He can't get angry because people say he lied when he is admitting himself that he did and he's proud of that?

Now that he's a writer I can't even imagine what he will say in interviews I only know that I won't trust him being honest.

Maybe it's a character flaw of mine, but I LIKE Pegg lying to the spoiler mill. I wish every production would lie, lie, lie to the spoiler mill about everything the spoilers want to know and distribute as their special power over the average, casual fan.

For example: Whenever my kids, when they were younger, were in the car, asking how long it would be before we get to [anywhere], my answer was always "Three hours." Even for a ten minute trip. They knew the answer was meaningless, eventually stopped asking, and learned how to figure it out for themselves and do more fun things on the trip than continually dwell on how long it takes to get there.

I'd just stop asking Pegg for spoilers, and I'm sure he'll be happy with that.

 

[Sindatur]

Interesting perspective, Malaika. I guess I took his statement, and the statements of others in the same boat, to be that there was time for truth but it was not that time. In other words, he (and others like him) was either inclined to not spoil the suprise, or in other circumstances, secrecy and control over production and script details are the order of the day. I think we can trust him ok, just maybe not count on him to spill the beans and ruin a major chunk of a film for a lot of people.

I'm all about secrecy too. If I were a writer you wouldn't know a thing from me
but I think it's better to not comment rumors at all or be vague and teasing (like the other actors did) than do what Simon did..
In my case, his interview ruined my fun more than the spoilers and speculations of the fans because he made me hope that the villain was another (and I was one of those who were doubtful about the speculations). The 'surprise' to not ruin wasn't really a surprise about this new exciting plot and villain no one could expect, as much as it was them trying to hide the fact that they ultimately re-used a villain that they knew a lot of people wouldn't like for a number of reasons (and that not even all the writers liked)
In short, he just tried to delay my disappointment but ultimately made it worse in the end.

Lindelof did a similar thing, and worse, as a writer in 'Lost'. For years they denied that the show would use a certain plot device and mocked those who speculated about it and yet, in the end he did a complete 180° turn on a lot of things he had said that were contradicted by the finale where they in fact used that plot device they swore they would never use.
I'm not one of those who think that the writers owe the fans and the latter are justified when they are entitled.
But there must be a middle ground between not wanting to tell us everything/spill the beans and manipulation, dishonesty and lack of integrity.
just my two cents

Your memory is incorrect, regarding LOST.

Spoiler: LOST

What Lindeloff maintained, and it was the thruth, is that the Island was not Purgatory, and that what was happening on the Island, really was happening to these people. The Season 6, real world/Alternate world scenes was where Purgatory came in.

So, he didn't lie

 

[Dales]

Interesting perspective, Malaika. I guess I took his statement, and the statements of others in the same boat, to be that there was time for truth but it was not that time. In other words, he (and others like him) was either inclined to not spoil the suprise, or in other circumstances, secrecy and control over production and script details are the order of the day. I think we can trust him ok, just maybe not count on him to spill the beans and ruin a major chunk of a film for a lot of people.

I'm all about secrecy too. If I were a writer you wouldn't know a thing from me
but I think it's better to not comment rumors at all or be vague and teasing (like the other actors did) than do what Simon did..
In my case, his interview ruined my fun more than the spoilers and speculations of the fans because he made me hope that the villain was another (and I was one of those who were doubtful about the speculations). The 'surprise' to not ruin wasn't really a surprise about this new exciting plot and villain no one could expect, as much as it was them trying to hide the fact that they ultimately re-used a villain that they knew a lot of people wouldn't like for a number of reasons (and that not even all the writers liked)
In short, he just tried to delay my disappointment but ultimately made it worse in the end.

Lindelof did a similar thing, and worse, as a writer in 'Lost'. For years they denied that the show would use a certain plot device and mocked those who speculated about it and yet, in the end he did a complete 180° turn on a lot of things he had said that were contradicted by the finale where they in fact used that plot device they swore they would never use.
I'm not one of those who think that the writers owe the fans and the latter are justified when they are entitled.
But there must be a middle ground between not wanting to tell us everything/spill the beans and manipulation, dishonesty and lack of integrity.
just my two cents

I agree, I just don't trust anything this people say anymore. I was a bit irritated that they were lying about khan and it turned out to be khan. Another JJ mystery box that came out empty.

 

[JWPlatt]

I'm irritated by the crazed spoilers out to destroy my experience to satisfy their own selfish needs. I equate them with same parasitic form of life as Paparazzi.

 

[Mudd]

Well, that's taking it more personally than absolutely necessary.

 

[HIjol]

Well, that's taking it more personally than absolutely necessary.

Wow...guess nobody likes surprises any more.

 

[JWPlatt]

I'm irritated by the crazed spoilers out to destroy my experience to satisfy their own selfish needs. I equate them with same parasitic form of life as Paparazzi.

Well, that's taking it more personally than absolutely necessary.

Well, I wrote "my" instead of "our" because I didn't want to speak for you, buddy.

 

[eyeresist]

Now that he's a writer I can't even imagine what he will say in interviews I only know that I won't trust him being honest.

This is a bizarre "issue". Pegg told a lie of ABSOLUTELY ZERO MORAL CONSEQUENCE. He gave misinformation about the villain in a movie. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Mocking people who take this stuff seriously is just icing on the cake.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Actually, Admiral Marcus was the real villain of STID.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Actually, Admiral Marcus was the real villain of STID.

Khan would like a word with you. He will not be second to a mere human!!!!!

 

[Malaika]

Your memory is incorrect, regarding LOST.

Spoiler: LOST

What Lindeloff maintained, and it was the thruth, is that the Island was not Purgatory, and that what was happening on the Island, really was happening to these people. The Season 6, real world/Alternate world scenes was where Purgatory came in.

So, he didn't lie

Uhm no, not really but nice try lol
They said that they'd never use that plot device and they used it instead, no matter when and how. They used it. And they didn't even use it well, I might add. (according to some rumors it wasn't even their original plan when season 6 started, which might explain some inconsistencies)
I think with lost the problem was that the writers wrote themselves into a hole by keep creating questions and misteries they weren't ultimately able to resolve so they wrote a finale whose main purpose seemed to try 'distracting' you from that fact by trying to make you emotional with the cheesy stuff. It didn't work for me, it actually was one of the most depressing things ever even if they tried to make it seems it was positive for the characters xD I only liked the parallel with Jack's eyes, and he was my least favorite character.
Imo the fans and critics had some pretty valid reasons to be disappointed and feel like the writers lacked integrity.

 

[Malaika]

Actually, Admiral Marcus was the real villain of STID.

But Nero is the real crazy villain of both movies
Man's destroyed vulcan, killed Spock's mama and Kirk's dad. The next villain will have to work a lot to beat that

 

[Silverman]

Now that our much beloved Nimoy is gone, I guess they will have to rewrite much of the script again if the story line was still in place of him and Shatner still appearing in it.