In addition, having EVERY SINGLE public comment dissected, examined, and used to prove a preconceived notion.
I imagine the vast majority of those howling at Orci's rudeness have said far worse.
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In addition, having EVERY SINGLE public comment dissected, examined, and used to prove a preconceived notion.
I imagine the vast majority of those howling at Orci's rudeness have said far worse.
Yep. Most of the aggrieved people are upset at having their rude shit tossed back at them.
That looks like an accusation at anyone who criticizes him as being unqualified, stupid and unaccomplished. I'll try to not take it personally.
It was not a mistake to Orci, in his opinion, by the way. Because he said it once, then deliberately said it again.
"Karma" was bantered about a bit. There's a new comment on a TrekToday article about Pegg and Abrams where "bydefault" pretends to quote Orci with "This is why other people write Star Trek movies now and I don't." Very clever and gave me a chuckle. That's the sort of karma I mean.
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He had to specify that he's still producing because the usual haters were endlessly wanking about the role of producer saying that he doesn't count and producers decide nothing.
The nitpick and constant bashing is ridiculous.
I wonder what they will do now that he won't interact with them anymore (it's never too late to become wise) I doubt that Simon Pegg&co will give them the time of the day. Simon doesn't even handle his twitter account anymore.
1337. boborci - February 9, 2015
Yes, still a Bad Robot/Skydance production. Yes, I am still producing.
However, out of respect for our great new team who is now grabbing this bull by the horns, I will no longer be commenting. Been great fun mixing it up here with you.
Live long and prosper
He had to specify that he's still producing because the usual haters were endlessly wanking about the role of producer saying that he doesn't count and producers decide nothing.
The nitpick and constant bashing is ridiculous.
I wonder what they will do now that he won't interact with them anymore (it's never too late to become wise) I doubt that Simon Pegg&co will give them the time of the day. Simon doesn't even handle his twitter account anymore.
I wouldn't be too surprised if Pegg occasionally waded into online madhouses for a laugh, safely under a pseud.
Orci said goodbye to the comments on Trek Movie:
"It is a Bad Robot / Skydance production. Yes, I am still producing.
However, out of respect for our great new team, which is now taking this bull by the horns, I will not be commenting. I had a lot of fun mixing here with you.
Live Long and Prosper life ".
Post 1331 "Pegg an Doug co-writing".
"taking the bull by the horns" is an expression probably originated in the American West where it was a common, but dangerous, practice to wrestle with steers. This was not only done for entertainment at rodeos but was part of the everyday working life of ranchers and cowhands throughout the west. To control a bull or a steer (a young bull) the cowhand would first have to catch it. Trying to grab the neck or legs of a dangerous creature like this was not an option. The only solution was to take a deep breath and face the problem directly by grabbing the bull by the horns and then pulling it to the ground. This expression now means to confront a problem directly without “beating about the bush”.
So, Simon, Doug and Justin Lin are trying to find a solution. Good Lucky!
"It is a Bad Robot / Skydance production. Yes, I am still producing.
However, out of respect for our great new team, which is now taking this bull by the horns, I will not be commenting. I had a lot of fun mixing here with you.
Live Long and Prosper life
". Post 1331 "Pegg an Doug co-writing".
"taking the bull by the horns" is an expression probably originated in the American West where it was a common, but dangerous, practice to wrestle with steers. This was not only done for entertainment at rodeos but was part of the everyday working life of ranchers and cowhands throughout the west. To control a bull or a steer (a young bull) the cowhand would first have to catch it. Trying to grab the neck or legs of a dangerous creature like this was not an option. The only solution was to take a deep breath and face the problem directly by grabbing the bull by the horns and then pulling it to the ground. This expression now means to confront a problem directly without “beating about the bush”.
So, Simon, Doug and Justin Lin are trying to find a solution. Good Lucky!
That was certainly true of most of his "critics" at Trekmovie, so I'd call it fair comment.
I just trust and respect someone or I don't - I don't have rules about it. Orci's always struck me as a good guy, and certainly the folks he was bashing were asking for it.
That looks like an accusation at anyone who criticizes him as being unqualified, stupid and unaccomplished. I'll try to not take it personally.
It was not a mistake to Orci, in his opinion, by the way. Because he said it once, then deliberately said it again.
"Karma" was bantered about a bit. There's a new comment on a TrekToday article about Pegg and Abrams where "bydefault" pretends to quote Orci with "This is why other people write Star Trek movies now and I don't." Very clever and gave me a chuckle. That's the sort of karma I mean.
You shouldn't, unless of course you were one of the people hounding him on the various fansites.
He was not.
You shouldn't, unless of course you were one of the people hounding him on the various fansites.
And don't encourage him: he takes far too many things personally, as it is.
You know you're not supposed to do that, and did it anyway, and it earns you a warning for wilfully acting to disrupt the thread.
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What he's done so far seems to be working, and I like that he tries to inject something fun and adventurous in a show that's supposed to be fun and adventurous. I mean, I love TNG, but how often can you have a meeting about a diplomatic solution while someone is gunning you down before the audience wonders where the hell Kirk's brand of "diplomacy" went?
I think Simon Pegg and Doug Jung will keep that spirit going, regardless of whether Orci's hand is on the paper as well.
I do not know how well "reddit" is regarded, but I came across this jewel of a quote, attributed to Simon "the Towel" Pegg:
"Someone on Twitter accused me of lying about a plot detail of Into Darkness the other day, as though I owed them the truth in some way; as if there is some law somewhere that states film makers have to fess up to the secrets of their movies if speculation randomly hits upon a truth. I say screw that, as far as I’m concerned, the people who are hell bent on ruining the film for everyone else are the enemy and I owe them nothing, least of all the truth."
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"Someone on Twitter accused me of lying about a plot detail of Into Darkness the other day, as though I owed them the truth in some way; as if there is some law somewhere that states film makers have to fess up to the secrets of their movies if speculation randomly hits upon a truth. I say screw that, as far as I’m concerned, the people who are hell bent on ruining the film for everyone else are the enemy and I owe them nothing, least of all the truth."
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he really said that, I read that before... (here's the source)
whatever Simon...
He has a point that we definitely don't need to know everything and I agree about that, but his reply is basically like 'I was angry you busted us and ruined my party so I'm entitled to tell you lies and mock you just because I can' and it's fine but there is no law that says he HAD to do that either?
I remember when he lied about Khan, he implied that people were deluded for thinking he was the villain and that we'd get something completely different. It's the way he said that. So, no Simon, it's not that people think you owe them the truth but if people don't consider you a reliable source about the movies anymore, perhaps, just perhaps, they have a point too.
He absolutely can't handle criticism and he's immature.
When he said 'f**k you' the the fans who didn't like stid and got some backlash because of that he said that the interviewer had lied and put words in his mouth
but of course the latter had the record of the interview to defend his job...Simon Pegg is what Orci's haters deserve
part of me hopes he starts to post over trekmovie as a writer because the wank would be delicious.ps: I think that the fact that they lied about Khan even when it became obvious that he was the villain probably exacerbated people's hate and disappointment that they, in fact, re-used that villain instead of doing something new. JJ himself later admitted that being too obsessed about keeping the villain a secret had been a mistake from their part and backfired on them.
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While there are certainly those who feel entitled, in truth, people are owed nothing.
he really said that, I read that before... (here's the source)
whatever Simon...
He has a point that we definitely don't need to know everything and I agree about that, but his reply is basically like 'I was angry you busted us and ruined my party so I'm entitled to tell you lies and mock you just because I can' and it's fine but there is no law that says he HAD to do that either?
I remember when he lied about Khan, he implied that people were deluded for thinking he was the villain and that we'd get something completely different. It's the way he said that. So, no Simon, it's not that people think you owe them the truth but if people don't consider you a reliable source about the movies anymore, perhaps, just perhaps, they have a point too.
He absolutely can't handle criticism and he's immature.
When he said 'f**k you' the the fans who didn't like stid and got some backlash because of that he said that the interviewer had lied and put words in his mouth
Simon Pegg is what Orci's haters deserve
ps: I think that the fact that they lied about Khan even when it became obvious that he was the villain probably exacerbated people's hate and disappointment that they, in fact, re-used that villain instead of doing something new. JJ himself later admitted that being too obsessed about keeping the villain a secret had been a mistake from their part and backfired on them.
Thanks for the confirmation and the though provoking post!
I am able to parse that statement to mean that Pegg believed and implied that Admiral Marcus was the true villain in the film - not Khan.
So what Pegg told you was true... from a certain point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
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