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Silicon Avatar commentary: Good acting, bad writing

Louigi Verona

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I have just watched this TNG episode and I must say that the dilemma in this episode seems farfetched.

First off, Picard's desire to "communicate with the Entity" is a little bit unnatural. I mean, come on. On the first watch it even amazes that they are not there to stop it but to communicate with it and to then try to find other means of energy for it. Maybe they should run the same campaign for Borg!

Second, I cannot believe that Picard, the person he is, would manage things the way he did in this episode.
His behaviour in this episode is unfeeling, dry and out of touch with reality. Placing doctor Marr in one of the leading roles of the project was clearly a bad command decision, especially when he several times witnessed that this woman is broken inside, devastated by the death of her son. I always thought that captain Picard is a much better judge of human character.
Telling her that yes, we will communicate with the Entity, knowing about her loss and then going into a philosophical debate about it, is hard-hearted to say the least. Picard is a much more delicate man than this. At the very least he could talk about it with his senior staff only and make sure that during the experiment doctor Marr is not doing anything - anyone else can push buttons to change frequencies.
And all of that not to mention the weak argument that Picard "fights off" doctor Marr with by comparing humans to cuttlefish.

Third, the whole idea of "finding other means of energy for the Crystalline Entity" is questionable technically.
How were they going to do it? This thing just devours whole planets and then without even a slumber goes on to devour the next one. Did they at least have any plan? Or were they just thinking: "nah, we'll talk to the Entity and ask if maybe it can use something else for lunch instead of life." And the Entity would exclaim: "Yeah, actually, I can just eat free electrons, forgot about that option, oops! Sorry for all the millions of deaths, hehe".
So obviously, there doesn't seem to be any alternative solution, even theoretical, to the problem and we never see senior staff dicussing their plan of action. Which, again, is a very weird command decision, to try to communicate with such a dangerous creature and even have no plan of how to stop it from destroying whole planets. In less critical situations Starfleet would just order to destroy and kill, wouldn't it?

In fact, it is one episode where captain Picard stands absolutely alone, his views questioned not only by Riker, but I would think by the viewer too.

Finally, the last scene with doctor Marr and Data is perplexing.
What did they want to tell the viewers? That doctor Marr "did a bad thing"? That "revenge, my children, is very-very bad"?
The device used is Data saying that according to his "interpolation" of the boy's journals, he would have not been happy with what she did because he valued her scientific career and now she ruined it.
Kehemm. Excuse me? What?!

This is some poor writing or else it was the goal of authors of the episode to show how out of touch with life Data actually is.
Implying that a boy, who in his letters mentions that he is proud of his mother's career, would be sad, because she ruined her career, as a result of destroying an Entity which killed him and millions, if not billions, of other living creatures - is missing the whole point of what is going on. Opposed to this primitive interpolation, common sense tells us that her son, if his soul could witness the events, would hardly care about the career of his mother at that moment at all.

That said, it is strange of Data to even consider running this interpolation, as clearly no meaningful result can be gathered from journals which hold no experience of catastrophies, massive deaths and such. Nothing in these journals can tell anyone how this boy would feel. Taking some positive variable from letters to his mother and comparing it to the current situation, which has many new variables, not taken into account in the journal, is bad logic for an android so sophisticated as Data.
In fact, our common knowledge about the world tells us that you never know how a person would actually react, even if he had a certain opinion before a catastrophic experience. There is a difference between being proud of one's mother's career achievements and one's attitude towards her decision to ruin those achievements because her son died and she tries to take revenge. It is impossible to interpolate anything here!

Lastly, I doubt that her career would be "ruined". With so many lives lost, I think Picard's position would be a very unpopular one. Imagine the Federation Council issuing a statement: "We have stripped doctor Marr of all of her titles because she dared to put an end to the Crystalline Entity which has devastated hundreds of planets in our galaxy and which caused millions of deaths to your loved ones. Our goal was not to destroy it, but to communicate with it and possibly find another source of energy for it." This would cause a huge public outroar, even if they use softer words.
And even if we imagine various Federation officials, who almost always are shown to be not very good people, to still strip her of her titles, clearly she would not care much. She is old already and her career is behind her anyway.

So, I enjoy this episode, it is well filmed and well acted, but I think that the writing in this episode is, in my personal opinion, very poor. As for the final scene, I think it is one of the most confusing and outrageous moralizing attempts I have ever encountered in Star Trek.








Did that blog post some time ago on my site:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=writings&t=blog&a=blog092011_15
 
So we should simply destroy life we don't understand because it undertakes actions that are instinctual to it?

Picard should've been pursuing a dual track in the episode, attempted communication and understanding but be ready to destroy it if can't be made to understand its actions are harmful.
 
Yeah maybe the episode was a bit simplistic as far as the moral arguments go, but overall I thought Picard was in the right to at least try to communicate with the damn thing before blowing it to smithereens.

Starfleet has encountered lifeforms before that didn't understand the harm they were doing simply because we didn't register on their radar (just like we don't pay much attention to the bugs we kill every day while driving to work). With all the millions of uninhabited planets out there, there's a good chance they could have convinced the Entity to focus only on them.

Maybe that's too much of a tree-hugger, "save the whales" attitude for your taste, but... that's Star Trek. In this future humanity doesn't seek vengeance or instinctively lash out at whatever thing does them wrong; they try to TALK to their enemy and understand him first.

And yeah, she's a Starfleet scientist. If she's going to betray the trust of the people around her, disobey direct orders from a starship captain, and behave in an utterly unscientific way-- and kill possibly the only member of a rare and unique species-- then she deserves to have her career tarnished to some degree.

I agree the stuff with Data channeling the spirit of the dead son was pretty silly and far-fetched though. I never really cared for that ability of his.
 
I agree the stuff with Data channeling the spirit of the dead son was pretty silly and far-fetched though. I never really cared for that ability of his.

I think that was the final push she needed to go over the edge.
 
The actress who played Marr, Ellen Geer, did a poor job. The writing may have been brutal, but she did nothing to endear that character to me on any kind of emotional writing.
 
Yeah maybe the episode was a bit simplistic as far as the moral arguments go, but overall I thought Picard was in the right to at least try to communicate with the damn thing before blowing it to smithereens.

Starfleet has encountered lifeforms before that didn't understand the harm they were doing simply because we didn't register on their radar (just like we don't pay much attention to the bugs we kill every day while driving to work). With all the millions of uninhabited planets out there, there's a good chance they could have convinced the Entity to focus only on them.

Maybe that's too much of a tree-hugger, "save the whales" attitude for your taste, but... that's Star Trek. In this future humanity doesn't seek vengeance or instinctively lash out at whatever thing does them wrong; they try to TALK to their enemy and understand him first.

And yeah, she's a Starfleet scientist. If she's going to betray the trust of the people around her, disobey direct orders from a starship captain, and behave in an utterly unscientific way-- and kill possibly the only member of a rare and unique species-- then she deserves to have her career tarnished to some degree.

I agree the stuff with Data channeling the spirit of the dead son was pretty silly and far-fetched though. I never really cared for that ability of his.


This.

Revenge is not a good thing.

Makes me wonder if the OP ever saw Star Trek before this.
 
...Or more specifically "Datalore", the introductory episode for this week's menacing alien. In that episode, we learn not only that the entity is a danger to planets but poses no risk to shielded starships - we also learn that the entity's actions on the Omicron Theta colony were related to the android Lore attempting to communicate with it.

We don't know if Lore really managed to exchange ideas with the entity, or was merely delusional in believing that he did. But we do see clear differences in how the entity treated that colony and how it treated its "Silicon Avatar" victims. Since the difference there lies in communication, it's pretty clear that this is the path that should be pursued in attempting to negate the threat.

Killing the entity outright solves nothing, as this leaves Starfleet unprepared for when the entity's brethren start feeding on UFP worlds. Or can we seriously argue that the entity would be one of its kind? The Space Amoeba and the Vampire Cloud explicitly were not...

Timo Saloniemi
 
MikeS:

Hehe, it is funny that each time you voice an opinion which is not possibly too common, someone will always accuse you of not watching Star Trek before )))

No, I have watched lots of ST since childhood and read many books.
Saying "Revenge is not a good thing. There!" seems to miss the whole point of what I've written.

Timo:

This is a good argument. I did not think about it, but neither such reasoning was mentioned in the episode.

But do understand guys, it is not about specifics, it is more about the general approach. I just don't think Dr. Marr was in an easy position and I do not believe that in this case one can black-and-whitely call the destruction of the entity "revenge". At the very least it looks like a debatable thing to me.
 
Silicon Avatar is one of my top ten favourite TNG episodes precisely because of the excellent last ten minutes. It really shows the importance of tolerance, insight, understanding and inner peace as a way of overcoming bitterness, grief and revenge. That's such an optimistic message; the kind of message Star Trek can deliver at its best.

In the case of Silicon Avatar, it does this by showing the personal hollowness that results when we succumb to empty revenge. It isn't really a story about the Crystalline Entity; it's a story about Kila Marr's loss and what that means to her as a whole person. When I watch it, the emotion I feel most strongly at the end is a sense of pathos and sadness about what she has become... and most crucially, it's directed and acted in a way that suggests that she herself recognises it.
 
Just to emphasize, I am not trying to make other people change their opinion, only trying to explain my position better. Of course, everyone has their own views on the matter. In fact, it is very interesting for me to read what other people think.


I am not against "overcoming bitterness, grief and revenge". I just don't think it is decent to put oneself into a moralizing position. Does any of us know how we would react in a situation such as this? We want to believe that we would be noble and forgiving, but is there a guarantee? I am afraid not.

So I did not feel that in this episode it was shown HOW to overcome bitterness, grief and revenge. And, as I said, the question of whether Crystalline Entity should have been destroyed or not seems debatable and not self-obvious.
 
I'm in full agreement with all these points - it is just that I find it a good thing that no clear-cut conclusion was found here. Picard held on to one position, Marr to another, and Riker had a viewpoint to offer as well. All of them had dramatically justifiable reasons for their positions: Picard had to mind the big picture, Riker had been at the receiving end of the beast's eating beam, and Marr was expected to bow to both in that she was a trained scientist but had suffered a personal tragedy as well. It's not just that Marr had to overcome grief - it's also that she had to fight a personal and professional battle before she could even admit to grief.

The conclusion I find satisfactory enough. Nothing is really solved, which is what does happen when nothing is overcome, and that's dramatically fine. Even Data's odd ramblings at the end feel realistic, as the character is socially clumsy and extremely inexperienced in coping with grief, but somewhat skilled in exacting subtle revenge (starting with his experiences in "The Most Toys"). He would probably make for a very good narcissistic psychopath...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Picard's approach here was pretty consistent with Star Trek philosophy, as others have written. If you have a problem with it, I would guess you have a problem with other stories where similar approaches are taken.

Star Trek is not a "shoot first, ask questions later" kind of show. Maybe his idealism was taken to an unusual level here, but again, it's Star Trek.
 
Silicon Avatar is one of my top ten favourite TNG episodes precisely because of the excellent last ten minutes. It really shows the importance of tolerance, insight, understanding and inner peace as a way of overcoming bitterness, grief and revenge. That's such an optimistic message; the kind of message Star Trek can deliver at its best.

In the case of Silicon Avatar, it does this by showing the personal hollowness that results when we succumb to empty revenge. It isn't really a story about the Crystalline Entity; it's a story about Kila Marr's loss and what that means to her as a whole person. When I watch it, the emotion I feel most strongly at the end is a sense of pathos and sadness about what she has become... and most crucially, it's directed and acted in a way that suggests that she herself recognises it.

What Holdfast says here is wise and thoughtful, and I respect that point-of-view. Revenge is wrong and destructive.

There was a recent thread in the TOS forum on TrekBBS about the Crystaline Entity and the Tycho IV Vampire Cloud Creature that attacked the 23rd-century Starships Farragut and Enterprise, causing loss of life and menacing much worse. (TOS "Obsession") I don't have link; sorry.

I would also throw in Commodore Decker's Planet Killer (TOS "The Doomsday Machine"), the Horta of Janus IV (TOS "Devil in the Dark") and the murderous holographic Losira (TOS "That Which Survives"). Comparing these phenomena, and the stories in which they appear, reveals similarities. It also reveals common problems with this kind of story.

In the case of the Crystaline Entity and the Tycho IV cloud, was see space-borne menaces capable of warp-speed travel that, for unfathomable reasons, somehow enjoys snacking on carbon-based lifeforms... including humans. It could be argued that if the creature is capable of warp flight and of planning an attack (or at least being attracted to targets and attacking them) then you have not just a dangerous phenomenon but also an intelligent one. (Note that the Last 100 of Zetar, from TOS "The Lights of Zetar", could also fit into this category, and that a dialogue was pursued with them). But the problem with that dialogue is that the Zetarians did not relent; in fact, they kept on menacing the Enterprise and tried to permanently take control of Lt. Romaine. So when Kirk killed them in the pressure chamber, there's no reason to feel sorry for the aliens.

In "Devil in the Dark", Spock tells Kirk that if the fugitive Horta is indeed that last of dying race, "to kill it would be a crime against science". And therein lies the rub. When is it wrong to defend yourself, or is it wrong at all? And how does one respect alien life that one does not even perceive as living? To a lesser extent, TNG resurrected "Devil in the Dark" in its first-year outing "Home Soil", about another silicon lifeform defending itself from human industrial endeavors. (IIRC, "Home Soil" was critically assailed by TOS fans as a "retread" of "Devil in the Dark".)

"The Doomsday Machine" showed our heroes being menaced by an alien machine, probably not a living being, but wouldn't destroying it be a "crime against science", since any trace of its creators could be forever lost? And what of the muderous computer on the Kalaandan outpost in "That Which Survives"? It was capable of teleporting the Enterprise 990.7 light-years, and at that distance, sabotaging the ship's main power supply, a feat Spock described as the work of "a very high culture and a very great danger". When the Enterprise security guard phasered the cube-shaped Kalanddan outpost's brain, did he commit a "crime against science"? That's actually a serious matter in-Universe, for the characters that we never saw them deal with. That outpost, as with the Planet Killer, obviously possessed extremely powerful technology and potential computer knowledge that Federation science simply could not pass up. So, was it wrong to just destroy these ancient relics and loose the link to the past they offered?

I'm not saying that Kirk and Picard should or shouldn't have used force in their respective situations. (Remember, Kirk wound up defending the Horta from the Janus VI miners) But did either TOS or TNG show us stories where the characters revealed thoughtful ethics in dealing with these various alien phenomena? I would say it's a mixed bag at best.

"Home Soil" was obviously a poorly re-written "Devil in the Dark", and a huge disappointment. "Datalore" and "Silicon Avatar" had the potential to erase the black mark on TNG's record, but there's only so much you can do with that giant snowflake. Did TNG acquit itself with distinction, using the Crystaline Entity to create a story arc on how Picard and company can peacefully diffuse a confrontation with a fundamentally estranged lifeform? The drama with Dr. Marr aside, I would say no.

At some point, you have to acknowledge that these monster stories are just that: monster stories with little or no thought about projecting a broader story or message. The attempt to use resonance to communicate with the entity in "Silicon Avatar" was the most interesting aspect of the whole episode by far, but it was far too little, too late. It was obvious that a writer just came up with an neat idea on how to make a sequel to "Datalore" and that was that.

Was the destruction of the Crystaline Entity a "crime against science"? Ask the angels dancing on the head of a pin. They would know more than the folks who gave us the Snowflake from Space.

The real tragedy of this is that TNG's makers took at least two chances at "The Devil in the Dark" and wound up fumbling both times. That's a very special kind of failure. "Tin Man" did do better, but that we never heard from Tam Elbrun and Gommtu again. Maybe that was an even bigger mistake.
 
One thing to remember is that the communication with the Crystalline Entity appeared to be working.

DATA
Captain, there is a pattern
emerging from its signals.

PICARD
It's trying to communicate with
us?

DATA
I believe so... although it will
take some time to decipher the
patterns...

A sense of anticipation begins to rise in Picard.

PICARD
Then it's possible...
communication... understanding...

DOCTOR MARR
Let me try something else... a
continuous graviton beam.

This partially vindicates Picard's approach, as it's quite possible that the entity could be reasoned with, as Lore apparently does in Brothers. Also, the scene shows that Marr was not willing to allow communication at all. As soon as that became a viable option, she pre-empted it by starting her attack.

I think the entity, if it fully understood it was killing innocent sentients, deserves to face justice. If not, it needs to be confined or perhaps destroyed. But I agree with the episode as written/performed that Marr's approach was wrong.
 
I think "Datalore" (at least in retrospect) suggests that Lore and the CE did not communicate successfully - that it was all in Lore's head. After all, when Lore calls the CE from aboard the starship, he explains his clever plan in detail. Yet when the time for action comes, the CE does not follow the plan at all. Lore promises to drop shields as a "gesture of goodwill" (for beaming out the tree), but when the shields are dropped and Lore himself is beamed out to space, the CE does not attack as planned. At the moment of its triumph, it retreats, seemingly not understanding what is going on.

It would seem that other plan Lore had, the fake one he explained to our heroes, would have been the way to go, the proper match for the level of intelligence in the CE. That is, beam out the carrot, that is, the tree - and then show the stick, that is, the phasers. With simple things like that, the CE could have been domesticated in no time flat.

I think the entity, if it fully understood it was killing innocent sentients, deserves to face justice.

For doing what it must to survive? Today, that'd be like a bunch of vegans passing a sentence on some random meat-eating guy. Some day, meat-eating may be an offense punishable by fines or death or whatever (or perhaps veganism will), but it's not a particularly attractive prospect from today's point of view.

OTOH, the CE clearly "ate" vegetation and whatnot, and might be convinced to drop sentient meat from its diet. But it would be a bit much to assume that the CE would have had to refrain from eating sentient meat before the meat rose and told it this was wrong. How could it have known?

Timo Saloniemi
 
I had no problem with the episode except for Data of all people trying to put words in the mouth of Dr. Marr's dead son. Data...who has such a piss poor grasp on humanity feels himself qualified to interpret emotions from a kid he never met based off of a journal. Not to mention his timing with that little diatribe. There is no way Dr. Marr didn't end up in a straight jacket at the end of this episode right?
 
I think the entity, if it fully understood it was killing innocent sentients, deserves to face justice.
For doing what it must to survive? Today, that'd be like a bunch of vegans passing a sentence on some random meat-eating guy.

No, because animals aren't sentient, therefore we have a right to kill them for food as long as we treat them with as little cruelty as possible during the process.

Also, we don't know that the entity is capable of finding other energy sources, or if it prefers the taste of human colonies and doesn't realize they have rights as sentients, or if it simply doesn't care. That's why communication was attempted before force. It's an ethical ideal in Star Trek and most other enlightened systems.

But if on the slim chance that the entity must eat human colonies to survive, knows it is destroying sentients, and there is no other viable food source, it should still be destroyed as a matter of justice, not merely self-defence. It's infringing on the right to life of other sentients. (Also, see "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.")

I think "Datalore" (at least in retrospect) suggests that Lore and the CE did not communicate successfully - that it was all in Lore's head.

Hard to say. Certainly he was able to summon it, which suggests some form of communication. And the uncertainty about communication/sentience on the part of the entity is what obliges our heroes to attempt communication before using force.
 
No, because animals aren't sentient, therefore we have a right to kill them for food as long as we treat them with as little cruelty as possible during the process.

Which is a bullshit argument, as their sentience or lack thereof is no way different from the sentience or lack thereof of the CE's fodder. That is, it is different from the sentience of the hungry party, which is sufficient for making the eater entitled to the eating if he so feels.

I mean, clearly you feel that way.

It's infringing on the right to life of other sentients.

No more than the destroyers would be infringing on its right to life.

Any argument about having the "right" to kill the CE is purely selfish. Which as such isn't unexpected, because all rights are purely selfish when one gets down to it. It's just not a cause our heroes should promote, any more than they should promote the cause of killing all Klingons because they are in the habit of killing people.

Certainly he was able to summon it, which suggests some form of communication.

At least it suggests that the CE associates communication with food...

Timo Saloniemi
 
By using the Enterprise's graviton beam to attack the Entity, Dr. Marr made herself an outlaw. She took control of the Enterprise's equipment at a key moment without the captain's permission to pursue a personal agenda of revenge. Just locking out the bridge controls was a criminal act. (Imagine if someone took control of equipment on a naval vessel today, undermining the captain's authority.) She used the Enterprise as a weapon at a time when the ship was not in any immediate danger. As such, any Starfleet officer would be responsible for placing Marr under arrest and in the brig. Since she did not face immediate incarceration, she can count herself as fortunate and simply look forward to being fired from her job. Marr's supporters can throw a ticker-tape parade for her after she finds new work.
 
The actress who played Marr, Ellen Geer, did a poor job. The writing may have been brutal, but she did nothing to endear that character to me on any kind of emotional writing.
What gave you the impression that the character was supposed to be endearing? The very 1st thing she did was to antagonize a main character

The point of the character was to come in as as a character of conflict, who has serious issues with Data. Then lull the viewer by having her come around to some resolution, only so they could trick the viewer when she goes batty at the end

I'd say the only thing that didn't work well was Data channeling the son. It was somewhat over the top dramatically, but otherwise the episode is pretty decent, & comparable to most Star Trek episodes of that kind
 
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