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Should Voyager have been more like Stargate: Universe?

But we're left not knowing the outcome yes?

Why did he have to
off himself? IF it didn't work? Couldn't he just die slowly?

I only liked him because of the fatness, otherwise meh. I just looked him up he is way way way better fat.
 
Dear god who are we trying not to spoil?

The Destiny only had just enough power to get to the next galaxy, it was going to take a year, which would confuse the beasties chasing them and then they would be safe. Keeping the life support on, and I'm assuming that if everyone is in a stasis tube that the shields would have different priorities which are less energy intensive since they don't have to protect the raw naked biologicals inside the ship anymore, just only the machinery.... But if Eli was still alive a month and a day after everyone else went to sleep, the ship would run out of power short of the edge of the next galaxy still inside the interstellar void between galaxies, still thousands of years from safe harbour at sublight speed, and every other bugger would die and that is why Rush could not be trusted.

If it's any consolation, you probably got this at the time, there was no ambiguity, but it's been so long (2 years? 3?) that some of the files in your mind have corrupted.

If you want more fat Eli, that man does not exist any more.

You have to go into the past.

Would you like to see fat Eli as a vampire hacker?

No?

Then Moonlight is not the show for you.

:)

Just watched another 2 episodes of Brannon Braga's Salem.

"Meh".
 
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You are right, I did understand it at the time but the details disappeared. Eli and Rush are the ones that really truly loved being where they were, but Eli more than Rush because Eli didn't need recognition and ego patting. He was on the trip of a lifetime and savored it which is why he made that decision and was at peace with it.

And where is all of Eli's fat now. Burned up by his body transformed and out there somewhere. He's totally lost his distinctiveness with that weight drop, sure he will live longer (possibly) but.. bleh. They need to invent ways to be completely healthy while fat.
 
Lynx said:
Not to mention that Voyager did arrive home, Destiny didn't! :techman:
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Although I hated SGU at first, I thought the last half-season was a huge improvement, and the open ended finale inspired. Voyager could have used music half as good as SGU's, too.
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYnCuXQF6nQ[/YT]
I honestly don't think SGU's true finale would have been as powerful as this.
 
Neelix was the most Rush like character?

Noooooooooooo... It's Chakotay.

Chakotay is Rush.

Voyager sucks so hard.

The episode where Rush and Young get into a fist fight over who has the bigger penis, and Young leaves Rush behind on an alien planet, and lies to the crew, claiming that he was already dead when he left him, and that he, Young hadn't done anything wrong... The Voyager equivalent of that resolution is season twos "Resolutions", where Chuckles makes Kathryn a bath and she plays with a monkey for 8 months.

####.
 
SG-U wasn't around but this was actually the question that got me to first join this board. What I've learned over the years is that there are people that like Voyager just as it is and there are people who would've preferred a harder version of it.

I was so sure everyone would agree with me (about a hard version being better) and had to learn not only was that not the case but they're not simply wrong either. People like different things in different series. I think you probably see this a lot between DS9 and Voyager fans as well.
 
Eli gave the word "bland" a face. He made Harry Kim look like Captain Kirk.
 
Star Trek tech at least in the 24 century was shown on TNG & DS9 to be essentially magic, so the whole low supplies thing never made any sense to begin with. There is no reason why a Federation ship shouldn't be able to live comfortably for several years without any supply problems IMO. Now with that said thay definitely coud have played up the two crews angle or use the dangers of the DQ to increase the drama.

Having a more serious show would have been nice but going too dark and it's just not Star Trek anymore.
 
Stargate Universe may have improved in its last half season, but I only lasted 21 episodes before calling it quits, because almost everything about it was awful (the production values were nice; Robert Carlyle was one of the best actors to join the franchise). I dislike Star Trek: Voyager for many reasons, but making it more like Stargate: Universe would have only made it worse.
 
I liked Stargate Universe better than Atlantis mostly because Atlantis felt like an SG1 retread with less chemistry and starting out with all the tech SG1 had to slowly accumulate. But I don't think its tone would work in a Star Trek setting, and I'm really glad the show didn't dwell on body-switching the way SGU did.

IMO Universe couldn't have been the 'Franchise killer' because by the time it appeared on scene the franchise had already been killed, but by the Ori. SG1 worked at the beginning because the cast was so good and because it was so cool the way they were fighting aliens with machine guns and grenades. By the time the eighth or ninth seasons came along the enemy was so powerful nothing but the next big ancient weapon would do, and they had starships and transporters.

Voyager should have been more serialized and shown a little more conflict and being desperate for resources, but I don't think lack of clear chain of command would have worked with it, and Star Trek needs to be surrounded by lots of different aliens on different planets.
 
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I really like Stargate Atlantis. It had a great premise and great characters. I also like Stargate SG1 for the same reasons.

In fact, Stargate became a haven for me after the dissapointments with certain events in Voyager.

But Stargate Universe was horrible and it does annoy me that they abandoned Atlantis and the planned Atlantis movie just to create that piece of crap.

The only character I liked on SGU was Rush because Robert Carlyle is an excellent actor, he looks like a crazy person I worked together with many years ago and he was also a bit creepy on SGU.
 
They intentionally wanted him to be creepy.

They decided how they wanted you to feel and you felt it.

It's nice when entertainers do this, politicians and advertisers less so.
 
Lynx said:
Stargate Universe was horrible and it does annoy me that they abandoned Atlantis and the planned Atlantis movie just to create that piece of crap.
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I'd have traded all five seasons of Atlantis for some more Universe...
 
Archer was worse than Young, but with the reset button, there was hardly ever any consequences to his continuous monumental fuckups.

The Klingons should have been massdriving Earth until Archer consented to go back to prison on Rua Pentha.
 
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The great thing about Young is how he makes Archer look good.
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Well Young appeared to be in over his head, but to be fair that applied to most of the military and civilians as well. The civilians I can understand to a certain degree, but for some of the military I was left wondering how that got into the Stargate Program, let alone assigned to an off-world base.
 
Whatever psych test Young passed before his marriage fucked up, he would not have passed after his marriage fucked up.

Meanwhile Archer slid through on Nepotism.

Anyone else support the fact that Soval and Mrs Archer were doing it?

Yes, exactly... Archer was Soval's (step) son, and still this is how they treated each other... Although, I really don't think that Archer actually knew that the Ambassador was giving it to his mum.
 
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