Should Trek XII have lens flares & camera shake

[Mr Silver]

Since they've already established the lens flare and camera shake as being part of the Nutrek cinematography, it would be a mistake to do away with them in the sequel. I think a more conservative approach to it should be made though, if only to keep the focus on what's going on and not (supposed to be) subtle VFX.

Since TrekXII will likely be released in 3D, along with regular 2D, it would be interesting to know how lens flare in generous quantities works with 3D.

 

[Broccoli]

^ JJA has expressed a disinterest in doing Trek in 3D. Doesn't mean it won't be, but as of now, it seems less likely.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Yeah he's said multiple occasions he isn't interested in 3D and I'm not an expert but I'm guessing that 3D wouldn't affect lens flares too much.

 

[Kemaiku]

I want lens flares so powerful the ship needs a separate structural integrity field so that it doesn't melt from the pure awesome.

 

[Roshi]

Yes, a lot of lens flares!

 

[Orac]

More lens flare please.

 

[number6]

Lens flares were never really a problem with me.

 

[Lighthammer]

Shake --- no. That will ruin the series for me.

I couldn't watch Battlestar because of that. It gave me a headache.

 

[Captain Robert April]

The shaky handheld camera thing is part of the "cinema verite" concept, "you are there". Same with the lens flares.

Of course, there's a difference when Joss Whedon had lens flares (pure happy accidents that are left in) and JJ wastes valuable time on set deliberately aiming flashlights at the camera in order to concoct lens flares.

 

[Broccoli]

He's the director. It is his time "to waste" although I wouldn't call creating the director's vision a waste.

 

[Captain Robert April]

It's the studio's time he's wasting trying to get that perfect lens flare, to the tune of a few thousand dollars an hour while everyone is standing around watching JJ play with flashlights.

 

[doubleohfive]

It's the studio's time he's wasting trying to get that perfect lens flare, to the tune of a few thousand dollars an hour while everyone is standing around watching JJ play with flashlights.

Really? That's your argument now? Le me lay down a little practical knowledge on you since you clearly don't know what you're talking about: If you think its just "a few thousand dollars an hour" that are spent or "wasted" on a major motion picture set, then you really are as out of touch and uninformed as you come across.

JJ Abrams directed the movie. If he wants to include lens flares in his picture, he's gonna include lens flares in his picture, and spending time putting them in the picture is not a waste of time. It's part of the process of creating the film we got. Being that it, you know, made a little profit for the studio, I doubt anyone there is going to be complaining.

At all.

 

[Uxi]

I hope Pine's Kirk can actually kick some butt instead of getting the floor wiped with him all the time.

 

[Vulagr]

I hate lens flares. I have astigmatisms and they always make it difficult for me to see. I want to see the movie dammit, not the flares.

Same thing with camera shaking. My astigmatisms makes it hard for me to see through camera shaking.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The claim that time and money is being "wasted" on lens flare is foolishness and a non-starter. By definition, if a movie is successful it's a validation of the director's approach. If the studio had not been happy with Abrams's Star Trek this kind of thing might have come in for criticism (although it's not likely). Since Paramount is completely happy with his approach to Trek, no one is worrying about how long it takes him to set up a shot.

 

[number6]

The claim that time and money is being "wasted" on lens flare is foolishness and a non-starter. By definition, if a movie is successful it's a validation of the director's approach. If the studio had not been happy with Abrams's Star Trek this kind of thing might have come in for criticism (although it's not likely). Since Paramount is completely happy with his approach to Trek, no one is worrying about how long it takes him to set up a shot.

This!

 

[Kelso]

I think it should have lens flares & camera shakes if J.J. wants them. He's slightly more qualified to make that decision than I am.

Just make it at least as good as the last one and I'll be happy!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

If done with a bad touch, camera shake can give me a headache and make me hate a film. I'm fully prepared to hate any Star Trek film I go to; see Nemesis.

But the camera shake in STXI was so innocuous that I didn't even notice it was there. Same thing with the lens flares. Until I read people whining over them, I didn't even notice them.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Well, the very point of whining is to get attention that isn't forthcoming for any other reason.

 

[GSnail]

I didn't actually notice the shakes either, although the lens flares actually gave it a nice touch. It looked good with the design of the bridge, a kind of "what 2009 thinks of the future" as opposed to "what 1960's thinks of the future" It's just nice to compare the bright colors and blinking buttons and flashy lights with the white things and transparent screens and flashy lights.