Poll Should they just release the SLV on blu ray?

[Maurice]

Interestingly, this dialogue appendix from the shooting script doesn't present any of her dialogue as alts. I get the impression most of it is supposed to be background chatter to the scene.

Also, notice her dialog that IS in that script isn't quite as much as she has in the SLV, so she's clearly riffing on those lines multiple times.

 

[XCV330]

I think I saw the slv as a kid. it was on ABC Movie night. Our family had a love hate thing with cable an that month we were using the rotatable antenna on the roof. The nearest ABC station as UHF. With bad reception, long play time, and a tv not up to the task plus we'd already seen it in the theater it was ho hum.
But I might watch it again if it were on blu ray just out of curiosity.

 

[Lance]

I think I saw the slv as a kid. it was on ABC Movie night. Our family had a love hate thing with cable an that month we were using the rotatable antenna on the roof. The nearest ABC station as UHF. With bad reception, long play time, and a tv not up to the task plus we'd already seen it in the theater it was ho hum.
But I might watch it again if it were on blu ray just out of curiosity.

I've often had a theory that, as slow as the theatrical cut is in places, that even it is pacey compared to the ABC edit. And that a whole generation, before the advent of mass home video (and even then, the SLV became the prevalent home video release for a long time), the SLV was pretty much the only exposure anyone had to The Motion Picture, therefore feeding everyone's cult memory of it being slooooooooowwww paced. But I'll admit a certain fondness for it regardless.

 

[Armus]

I've often had a theory that, as slow as the theatrical cut is in places, that even it is pacey compared to the ABC edit. And that a whole generation, before the advent of mass home video (and even then, the SLV became the prevalent home video release for a long time), the SLV was pretty much the only exposure anyone had to The Motion Picture, therefore feeding everyone's cult memory of it being slooooooooowwww paced. But I'll admit a certain fondness for it regardless.

The SLV feels shorter to me because it restores more character moments and humor to the film. For 20 years it was the only way to watch TMP. I was too young for the theatrical release and I grew up in the 80s and 90s so it was my first introduction to TMP. It deserves more respect than it has received since the DVD era.

 

[Pauln6]

The SLV feels shorter to me because it restores more character moments and humor to the film. For 20 years it was the only way to watch TMP. I was too young for the theatrical release and I grew up in the 80s and 90s so it was my first introduction to TMP. It deserves more respect than it has received since the DVD era.

I only have it on VHS so I have not watched it for years. I recall watching a side by side comparison with the Theatrical cut on YouTube but I don't recall that many extra character moments. What lines are still missing from the Director's Edition?

 

[Lance]

I only have it on VHS so I have not watched it for years. I recall watching a side by side comparison with the Theatrical cut on YouTube but I don't recall that many extra character moments. What lines are still missing from the Director's Edition?

There's quite a bit that didn't make it back into the Director's Edition (the DE, to me, feels like it tends to lean more into the theatrical version than the SLV on the whole barring one or two moments), but the one I really miss is the post-Decker scene in Kirk's quarters where Bones chews him out on how he's acting and why. That's a cool little character moment that definitely improves the film for it's addition in the SLV.

 

[Therin of Andor]

There's quite a bit that didn't make it back into the Director's Edition (the DE, to me, feels like it tends to lean more into the theatrical version than the SLV on the whole barring one or two moments)...

Yes, but the SLV was made with absolutely no participation by Robert Wise and whoever cobbled the SLV together was more interested in putting in as much as possible - including stuff that had been abandoned and/or half-completed (Kirk's different helmet and spacesuit and the studio rafters showing where a matte painting was supposed to go) - to create something that would conform with ad breaks on TV.

I do miss Decker's SLV line about making "God in our own image", and the male computer voice, but overall Wise's DE is very satisfying.

What lines are still missing from the Director's Edition?

Second "Viewer off!"

"We are now discussing the subject of command fitness..."

"And another thing..."

"Get out of here, Bones!"

"Negative control at helm. Negative control at helm..."

"We all create god in our own image..."

"It could hold a crew of thousands. Or a crew of a thousand ten miles tall..."

 

[Pauln6]

Yes, but the SLV was made with absolutely no participation by Robert Wise and whoever cobbled the SLV together was more interested in putting in as much as possible - including stuff that had been abandoned and/or half-completed (Kirk's different helmet and spacesuit and the studio rafters showing where a matte painting was supposed to go) - to create something that would conform with ad breaks on TV.

I do miss Decker's SLV line about making "God in our own image", and the male computer voice, but overall Wise's DE is very satisfying.



Second "Viewer off!"

"We are now discussing the subject of command fitness..."

"And another thing..."

"Get out of here, Bones!"

"Negative control at helm. Negative control at helm..."

"We all create god in our own image..."

"It could hold a crew of thousands. Or a crew of a thousand ten miles tall..."

I think Sulu's, " The new screens held," is missing as well?

I think I'd like all that dialogue back but with the timing edits, reduce the gap between "Why, it's Mister....."

"Spock!"

And remove, "Belay that phaser order." As it slows the scene even more.

 

[Firebird]

Yes, but the SLV was made with absolutely no participation by Robert Wise and whoever cobbled the SLV together was more interested in putting in as much as possible - including stuff that had been abandoned and/or half-completed (Kirk's different helmet and spacesuit and the studio rafters showing where a matte painting was supposed to go) - to create something that would conform with ad breaks on TV.

I'm pretty sure the SLV, like the extended "KCOP/Salkind" cut of Superman: The Movie, operated on the notion that more footage added to the print for TV showings would increase the profit to the producer's pockets. The strange thing is, there's even more sequences/moments they could've added back in that didn't require VFX, like McCoy's "never look a gift Vulcan in the ears, Jim", Decker showing the Ilia Probe around engineering while an extremely dour Scotty looks on, or some deleted bits on the Bridge further expanding on Kirk's plan to detonate the warp core as a last resort as V'ger pulls the Enterprise towards the "brain hemisphere."

 

[Pauln6]

I'm pretty sure the SLV, like the extended "KCOP/Salkind" cut of Superman: The Movie, operated on the notion that more footage added to the print for TV showings would increase the profit to the producer's pockets. The strange thing is, there's even more sequences/moments they could've added back in that didn't require VFX, like McCoy's "never look a gift Vulcan in the ears, Jim", Decker showing the Ilia Probe around engineering while an extremely dour Scotty looks on, or some deleted bits on the Bridge further expanding on Kirk's plan to detonate the warp core as a last resort as V'ger pulls the Enterprise towards the "brain hemisphere."

I'd love to see all that even if it's only rough footage.