Poll Should they just release the SLV on blu ray?

[Lance]

The SLV was, of course, the alternative 'longest cut', orginating as a television edit before released on VHS and Laserdisc but never on DVD or Blu Ray. It adds in considerably more content than either the Director's Edition or the theatrical cut, some of it obviously superfluous, but undoubtedly there will be scenes in there (and alternative takes of other scenes) that some of us grew up with and maybe prefer to either other version. At least, to have the option of watching it in HD.

Precedent has been set now by Warner Brothers releasing a widescreen high definition version of the 3 hour 'TV cut' of Superman on Blu Ray. So, doing so becomes more plausible.

I have included options on the poll for the Director's Edition as well, just to cover all bases.

Do you think any of these alternative cuts should be made available on blu ray? Or are you perfectly satisfied with the theatrical version?

 

[seigezunt]

I'm not sure more is better. I can't recall the variations between the version, other than the deleted scenes on the DE disk. I would support a cut with more character moments and less loping through V'Ger.

 

[grandmoffjon]

My version is the DE and the SLV has its share of issues, particularly Kirk's space walk rescue and its unfinished effects, but once a cut of a film is released, it belongs to the world and should be preserved, even if it isn't a 100% match of previous SLV releases and they, say, crop out the scaffolding error in the spacewalk.

 

[Kor]

Ideally, there would be a single set that contains all versions of the movie, like we got with "Close Encounters."

Kor

 

[grandmoffjon]

Yeah, a Blade Runner type archival set... it's sad that we're in the 40th anniversary of the film and we've heard nothing about anything... and at least the SLV wouldn't be that expensive, if they forego a 4K restoration of the film.

 

[Pauln6]

I'm waiting for the hybrid version with the trimmed frames of the DE but all the dialogue in the SLV.

 

[Armus]

I would definitely pay for the SLV, not sure about the DE. The theatrical cut is the coldest rendition of TMP. It just lacks too much warmth and humor. The DE has editing choices and changes in computer voices that I dislike. I grew up with the SLV. I think its the cut that makes TMP the most accessible.

 

[Firebird]

I'm waiting for the hybrid version with the trimmed frames of the DE but all the dialogue in the SLV.

You're waiting for a fancut of the movie that's probably already out there to be included on an official release? That's an even longer shot than the DE being put on blu-ray.

 

[Vger23]

It's amazing how little Paramount cares/knows about Star Trek.

 

[F. King Daniel]

There's one cut line which I WISH was left in. I've always struggled to understand how V'Ger doesn't realise it was built by humans, that humans weren't "infesting" the Enterprise etc.

But in one deleted scene, Decker says, "We all make God in our own image" and it suddenly made perfect sense.

 

[Vger23]

There's one cut line which I WISH was left in. I've always struggled to understand how V'Ger doesn't realise it was built by humans, that humans weren't "infesting" the Enterprise etc.

But in one deleted scene, Decker says, "We all make God in our own image" and it suddenly made perfect sense.

I agree, that was a crucial line. Hell, the original script was titled "In Thy Image" as we all know...

 

[Pauln6]

You're waiting for a fancut of the movie that's probably already out there to be included on an official release? That's an even longer shot than the DE being put on blu-ray.

I like to believe that there are always... possibilities.

 

[Firebird]

I like to believe that there are always... possibilities.

When it comes to Paramount’s history with distributing Star Trek, there are very few possibilities other than them simply repackaging the exact same 10-year-old Blu-ray release. They really don’t give much of a shit about their legacy titles, to the point that WB were the ones distributing Paramount movies on DVD for a while.

 

[Pauln6]

When it comes to Paramount’s history with distributing Star Trek, there are very few possibilities other than them simply repackaging the exact same 10-year-old Blu-ray release. They really don’t give much of a shit about their legacy titles, to the point that WB were the ones distributing Paramount movies on DVD for a while.

I don't hold out much hope either. I'm hoping to catch a screening at my local Everyman cinema and I'll buy whatever they put out. I'd love a release of some of the glossies of the original promo pics to be honest, otherwise it's back to eBay!

I think I will also try to get some 1/6 scale TMP uniforms made for my qmx figures as well.

 

[Vger23]

I can see why it wouldn't be released on disk, I guess, but why not present it as a streaming opportunity somewhere?

 

[Smellmet]

I would love the SLV with the DE effects in on blu ray.

 

[BillJ]

I've seriously debated buying a LaserDisc player so I could get the Special Longer Version on disc. Just don't have the room for it.

 

[Smellmet]

I've seriously debated buying a LaserDisc player so I could get the Special Longer Version on disc. Just don't have the room for it.

Can you still buy laserdisc players? What's the quality like on them?

 

[Kor]

Can you still buy laserdisc players? What's the quality like on them?

Production stopped in 2009. Pioneer was the last holdout. But it's probably not too hard to source a decent player.

Kor

 

[Qonundrum]

LaserDisc > VHS but is < DVD.

At least for most DVD releases.

DVD has higher bandwidth and resolution (1.3x) than LaserDisc (LD) but early DVD titles (e.g. Star Trek Insurrection) fared worse on the new medium due to comparatively primitive encoding options, making the movie look more jagged on DVD. The special edition of Insurrection that came out years later looks absolutely fantastic on DVD.

Color timing on other movies was a factor as "Contact" looked muted on DVD (despite a sharper image) whereas the LD was saturated. I'll get to an even better example in a moment...

LD also had multiple speeds (CLV, CAV). Neither of which allowed a full movie to sit on a single side and having to flip over a 12" heavy pancake was never fun. There were players that "switched sides" (meaning the head traverses sides, no disc flipping is done).

There is also the quality of the source material being transferred to the medium in question, and when. But the increase in digital remastering has rendered that aspect moot.

I kept my LD player until the early-2000s, as my Pioneer player kept breaking and needing repairs.

Some visual examples exist here - note the second link's references; that the character predominantly shown should have a pure blue outfit. Not teal blue. Ditto for the globe prominently displayed in one scene. There's a little 'black crush' effect as well, but I digress. Thank the color timing being altered during the mid-2000s idiotic craze of changing hues to match a teal/orange palette that was even more trite back then than it is now, and it is horribly trite now.

https://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?t=3537&p=47319

https://www.reddit.com/r/LaserDisc/comments/3jzyng/superman_ii_laserdisc_vs_blu_ray_side_by_side/

(Subsequent remasterings of at least the first Superman movie did fix the issue. The sequels still could be titled "The Man of Teal".)