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Should the Jurassic Park franchise be retired?

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Chris227

Lieutenant Commander
Although there hasn't been any solid news, there have been rumors of a fourth Jurassic Park film for years. Rumors of everything from a concept similar to the 80s toy line/cartoon "Dino-Riders" to Laura Dern being the lead, to other stuff. The last two sequels weren't exactly critical and audience darlings, but they did make a decent amount of money.


However, with the recent deaths of JP creator Michael Crichton and SFX genius Stan Winston, who did JP's practical FX Dinosaurs, perhaps a fourth film should be axed out of respect.
 
Michael Crichton was an entertainer who brought joy to millions. He would not want a movie to be cancelled 'out of respect'. Ditto for Winston.
 
Chris227 said:
Although there hasn't been any solid news, there have been rumors of a fourth Jurassic Park film for years. Rumors of everything from a concept similar to the 80s toy line/cartoon "Dino-Riders" to Laura Dern being the lead, to other stuff. The last two sequels weren't exactly critical and audience darlings, but they did make a decent amount of money.
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Exactly.

Chris227 said:
However, with the recent deaths of JP creator Michael Crichton and SFX genius Stan Winston, who did JP's practical FX Dinosaurs, perhaps a fourth film should be axed out of respect.
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Not continuing the work of Crichton and Winston is respect? I don't think so.
 
I want more movies! :)

They have the rights for 6 movies until the year 2026 or something insane like that.

They have been trying since the third one came out to make a forth. The real plan was for Power Rangers with dinosaurs and the guy from Angel and Bones would be the lead (that was who they wanted). The script, which was real, was leaked and was so bad the movie was canceled. They have been trying for years now to get it made and nothing is coming from it. I really hope it's made, awesome dinosaurs running around eating people? That never gets old.
 
Just do JURASSIC BEACH, with plesiosaurs and other sea monsters.

It's JAWS meets JURASSIC!
 
Greg Cox said:
Just do JURASSIC BEACH, with plesiosaurs and other sea monsters.

It's JAWS meets JURASSIC!
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That sounds like every other movie on Skiffy on a typical weekend afternoon! :p :lol:

...I've only seen parts of 3 on TV, wasn't too fond of 2 other than the big set-piece sequences. The original is a lot of fun, and we do get to see a lawyer eaten... too bad Goldbloom's character couldn;t have shared that fate as I hear he did in the book lol. :eek:
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movement on the 4th movie does seem to have stopped. I dont think Hollywood is going to not make a 4th, not in its current creative drought, but it does need to do something a bit different, than the first 3 films.
 
I wouldn't mind a fourth movie. I don't hold the original in as high regard as some (the book was better), and the sequels in as low a regard (they deliver what they promise to, in the end).
 
They'd need to make any future one a lot better than the last 2 before I'd have any interest. Do something new with it I didn't think that 2 or 3 added anything to what had gone before. Have the dinosaurs run mad in a major city or something, but not just another island-set movie. Keeping the series fresh means more than just changing leads every time - the humans in this series were pretty interchangeable, literally disposable (and edible) to begin with.
 
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They'd need to make any future one a lot better than the last 2 before I'd have any interest. Do something new with it I didn't think that 2 or 3 added anything to what had gone before. Have the dinosaurs run mad in a major city or something, but not just another island-set movie. Keeping the series fresh means more than just changing leads every time - the humans in this series were pretty interchangeable, literally disposable (and edible) to begin with.
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They had the T-Rex run mad in city in 2. That was the major change from the 2nd book which destroyed the movie.
 
Don't get me wrong. considering how successful on many layers the original was a sequel was all but gauranteed and necessary. And the original book, The Lost World, has a LOT of merit to it.

And putting our "heroes" in much more naturalistic and wild setting rather than a park has interesting ideas and appeals to it.

The execution, on the other hand, was made of failure.

First of all was Malcom's daughter (a hybrid character of two teenaged characters who stowaway with the scavenging team in the novel) second was the changes made to competing "factions" on the island. IIRC there was the InGen team which consisted of Malcom and others who had the trailers and equipment we see in the movie and the others were a team lead by Dodgson looking to exploit the isalnd/InGen's secrets. These are both changed in the movie to Hammond's team going to there to study the island on a naturalistic setting and a team sent directly by InGen and Hammond Jr. to exploit it.

For the most part I think the on-island stuff in TLW is OK, again because of the naturalistic setting. But once they move to San Diego I think the movie just falls apart, not to mention veering severly from the book.

So TLW had a lot promist to it but I think Spielberg got a little too bold and nutty with his idea of wanting to a "Godzilla-like" think with a T-Rex stomping through San Diego.

Jurassic Park III on the other hand... Ugh. It's best left like that.

FWIW, I "enjoy" JPII and JPIII for their own merits and *can* watch them, but they just miss a lot of the magic and whimsy of the first.

Again, TLW could've been a great take on the "dinosaurs in the 20th century" concept with the naturalistic setting but it just fell apart once the action moved to San Diego.

So in "hindsight" I say the franchise should've ended with the original because the sequels they made weren't good.

I'm not holding out hope for the eternally in production JP4.
 
Bad Bishop said:
Chris227 said:
Although there hasn't been any solid news, there have been rumors of a fourth Jurassic Park film for years. Rumors of everything from a concept similar to the 80s toy line/cartoon "Dino-Riders" to Laura Dern being the lead, to other stuff. The last two sequels weren't exactly critical and audience darlings, but they did make a decent amount of money.
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Exactly.

Chris227 said:
However, with the recent deaths of JP creator Michael Crichton and SFX genius Stan Winston, who did JP's practical FX Dinosaurs, perhaps a fourth film should be axed out of respect.
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Not continuing the work of Crichton and Winston is respect? I don't think so.
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While I can certainly understand the respect factor for Stan Winston, who was still active in working and evolving the design for the animatronic (and presumably the CGI) dinosaurs, I'm pretty sure Crichton's involvement in the film franchise ended after the first movie (if the mangling of The Lost World is any indication of that, at any rate). The me, the proper mark of respect would have indeed been to stop after the first one...

As such, it's further proof that nothing is sacred in Hollywood, and they would rape your grandmother on millions of movie screens if there was enough money to be made on it...

Not really complaining, just reiterating the obvious fact that Hollywood is a souless corporately driven moneymaking operation just like any other good capitalist institution should be... Assigning morality and 'respect' to them is a bit of a mistake, and something that would quickly drive them bankrupt.
 
I doubt we'll see another movie. The last one came out in 2001. However though I never thought we'd see another Indiana Jones and I was proven wrong, so who knows.

I agree, though, the series should stay where it is: dead.
 
gaith1 said:
Chris227 said:
Should the Jurassic Park franchise be retired?
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No, it should be rebooted. Let HBO adapt both novels in full, 6-7 hour versions, taking the ideas of the books as seriously as the special effects.
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if there is one word I dont want to hear in 09, its "reboot" or "semi reboot" or any kinda wishy washy, "its a reboot but the stuff from the other movies only kinda counts", and "but not the events of 4, 3 & 5 count but not 4"

Its either a reboot or it isnt, and if its a reboot it better had not been of something I have seen before.
 
wamdue said:
gaith1 said:
Chris227 said:
Should the Jurassic Park franchise be retired?
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No, it should be rebooted. Let HBO adapt both novels in full, 6-7 hour versions, taking the ideas of the books as seriously as the special effects.
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if there is one word I dont want to hear in 09, its "reboot" or "semi reboot" or any kinda wishy washy, "its a reboot but the stuff from the other movies only kinda counts", and "but not the events of 4, 3 & 5 count but not 4"

Its either a reboot or it isnt, and if its a reboot it better had not been of something I have seen before.
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Well, If you have not read the book, it would make a very different film/miniseries if it was adapted more faithfully. I would love to see HBO tackle it, I've thought of that before actually.
 
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