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should PARAMOUNT take over?

Awww, man! Now there's brains splattered all over the wall and carpet. Who is going to clean this mess up?

Dayton, next time just go screaming into the night. It's neater.;)
 
Could you spell it asplodey with just one s next time? Because you made my brain try to visualize an assplosion.

Sorry, bro. It was spelled "assplodey" in another thread, so it's now "cannon," which means I'm required as per the OP to acknowledge it as such in any future postings. :evil:
 
Could it be possible to have this:

Cannon for books and seperate for screen.

Considering the direction the books are taking wouldn't it make sense to have canon for books and books alone?

So what you're saying is, you want the books to be internally consistent and refer to each other, and not have the freedom to randomly violate past continuity, right?

Well, they do that already!

With a small number of exceptions (Crucible, Shatnerverse), with very good reasons in each case, all the Star Trek books do adhere to each other. Who cares if we call them 'canon' or not?!
 
Could it be possible to have this:
Cannon for books and seperate for screen.
Considering the direction the books are taking wouldn't it make sense to have canon for books and books alone?

???

Marc, many of the books already try to agree with each other as much as possible. If all the books had to conform with each other all the time, there'd be no Shatnerverse and no "Crucible" trilogy. Unless you forced them to carry a "Myriad Universes" logo.

What if "Crucible" was suddenly the arc declared canon for the book series? Then all recent Spock/Saavik novels get shunted into an alternate universe.

Canon simply means what happened in the live-action episodes of various ST series and their movies - and all the tie-ins, novels, novellas, short stories, comics, RPGs, fact books, etc, take their lead from that. The books don't set any agendas that must be obeyed, and the authors are (and should be) free to ignore certain other tie-ins if they want or need to for the sake of their plots, so long as they always connect back to the live-action material, as aired.
 
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than posting two or three replies in a row in the same topic.

And the problem with that is that in a red hot thread, with lots of debate, by the time you read all the posts, constructing responses as you go, there are already four or five other posts between yours and you haven't broken any rules. On a slow day (or because I'm on the other side of the world) one can be innocently reading and responding, only to realise one has accidentally made three posts in a row in the one thread.

For some reason, cut 'n' paste doesn't always work on my browser (unless I reboot), so it's not always possible to compress posts into one without retyping everything!
 
^ vB has the wonderful feature called "Multi Quote", Ian. :)

Yes, but it doesn't always like iMacs and Firefox.
interesting, does it work with Safari?

And sometimes one has no idea that one will be responding to more than one post in a session.
that's a lot of ones in one sentence. :p

I just click on the "multi quote" button, then I click "quote" on the last post and delete that.
 
Could it be possible to have this:
Cannon for books and seperate for screen.
Considering the direction the books are taking wouldn't it make sense to have canon for books and books alone?

???

Mark, many of the books already try to agree with each other as much as possible. If all the books had to conform with each other all the time, there'd be no Shatnerverse and no "Crucible" trilogy. Unless you forced them to carry a "Myriad Universes" logo.


Ian,

My name is Marc with a "C". Im pretty particular with the way it's spelled.
 
and no canon lawyer will tell you that the JF TM is canon today.

"Canon lawyer?"

Please tell me there's no such thing!

(Seriously, canonicity is a fannish obsession, not a legal one. I've seen dozens of licensing agreements in my time and the word "canon" appears in none of them. It's not a contractual issue at all.)

Well, except in the Catholic Church.

But, really, I was using the term solely as a figure of speech. Those fans who get their knickers in a twist about the fact that you put the ion pods on the wrong deck of the 1701-D would be what I refer to as "canon lawyers."
 
What if "Crucible" was suddenly the arc declared canon for the book series? Then all recent Spock/Saavik novels get shunted into an alternate universe.
And anything referencing them. No Vulcan's... means no AOTF, no Titan (taking the Taking Wing acknowledgments at their word), no TNG-R after Resistance (again, taking the Q&A acknowledgments at their word), probably VOY-R starting with Full Circle...

New Frontier and DS9-R are probably the only ongoing series that wouldn't be affected if Crucible became the main continuity. I don't consider the cancellation or demotion (via a "Myriad Universes"-style label) of most of the books to be a possibility.

Personally, I prefer to see tie-ins that expand my understanding of the story so far. Stories which work outside of the established framework, like Crucible, are more or less starting from scratch, which means they have to work harder to try to match the depth of the "normal" books. So while they may be good books, they're rarely as good at tying in to the show, because they aren't really offering anything new.
 
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