Should Paramount make a new TV version of TOS?

[BriGuy]

My vote would be for a new Trek TV series that views the future from the perspective of today, and not the 1960s - in terms of everything from technology, morals, issues, etc.

A true reboot, restart. New cast, new characters, new style. No continuity ties. No baggage.

I find it funny that the new movies want to be reboots and a rebirth of Trek, yet feel it necessary to hang on to it, I guess, for legitimacy. They hung on for the first two movies, and with the talk of Shatner being in the third, they still don't feel confident enough to fly on their own merits.

Now, Star Trek Continues is IMO superb and doing a great job not remaking TOS, but continuing it. I've hugely enjoyed their episodes so far.

 

[Yanks]

...Unless we get the actors from the new movies.

Definitely not. Cut ties from the films partially because that raises the whole stink of continuity again.

I would support our new TOS crew in TV. .... with STXIII starting a 5 year mission that could make sense.

 

[Warped9]

...Unless we get the actors from the new movies.

Definitely not. Cut ties from the films partially because that raises the whole stink of continuity again.

I would support our new TOS crew in TV. .... with STXIII starting a 5 year mission that could make sense.

I can speak only for myself, but any connection whatsoever to JJtrek would immediately tank any interest I might have in a new series. After they're done I hope to never again see that take on Trek.

 

[Yanks]

Definitely not. Cut ties from the films partially because that raises the whole stink of continuity again.

I would support our new TOS crew in TV. .... with STXIII starting a 5 year mission that could make sense.

I can speak only for myself, but any connection whatsoever to JJtrek would immediately tank any interest I might have in a new series. After they're done I hope to never again see that take on Trek.

I can understand that take.

Personally for me, I think they need to go about 50 years ahead of Voyager and star there.

 

[Warped9]

I would support our new TOS crew in TV. .... with STXIII starting a 5 year mission that could make sense.

I can speak only for myself, but any connection whatsoever to JJtrek would immediately tank any interest I might have in a new series. After they're done I hope to never again see that take on Trek.

I can understand that take.

Personally for me, I think they need to go about 50 years ahead of Voyager and star there.

Then that wouldn't be remaking TOS in a new form, which is what this thread is about.

My vote would be for a new Trek TV series that views the future from the perspective of today, and not the 1960s - in terms of everything from technology, morals, issues, etc.

A true reboot, restart. New cast, new characters, new style. No continuity ties. No baggage.

I find it funny that the new movies want to be reboots and a rebirth of Trek, yet feel it necessary to hang on to it, I guess, for legitimacy. They hung on for the first two movies, and with the talk of Shatner being in the third, they still don't feel confident enough to fly on their own merits.

This is essentially what I'm talking about.

Now, Star Trek Continues is IMO superb and doing a great job not remaking TOS, but continuing it. I've hugely enjoyed their episodes so far.

Agreed.

 

[InklingStar]

What about other kinds of series' set in the Star Trek universe? TOS was Wagon Train to the stars. What about a Federation-based CSI or NCIS? A hospital show? A school show? Have stories revolving around the lives of ordinary Federation citizens. What about a West Wing-style political show about the Federation president?

 

[T'var]

Why try and fix something if it's not broken?
It's the advancement and future I'm looking forward to.
Kirk is king, Spock(Nimoy) can't be undone.
Although, nostalgia can get the best of the best of us.
A different storyline in the same era of TOS would be entertaining.

 

[Timewalker]

I would love to see a new TV series of TOS with the same sets and costumes.

Anyone else think they should?

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There are several excellent fan film series that do this. Since they're produced and acted by fans, they're truer to the spirit of TOS than most of the spinoffs have been.

I don't think a TOS TV remake will work. Unless we get the actors from the new movies.

In which case I would not watch it.

 

[Warped9]

What about other kinds of series' set in the Star Trek universe? TOS was Wagon Train to the stars. What about a Federation-based CSI or NCIS? A hospital show? A school show? Have stories revolving around the lives of ordinary Federation citizens. What about a West Wing-style political show about the Federation president?

Then that wouldn't be Star Trek as it is widely recognized. Those kinds of stories might be done as occasional standalone episodes, but they wouldn't support a series recognized as Star Trek.

Firstly, the title alone says a great deal--Star TreK: voyaging to the stars. It's inherent that the stories involve going out into distant space. If you're not going to do at least that then go do something else without the Star Trek name and affiliation.

Secondly, the two most successful takes on Star Trek are TOS and TNG, and what those series were about was right in the beginning of the opening narrative: "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise..." Right there it encapsulates what the broader audience recognizes what the show is.

 

[doubleohfive]

Secondly, the two most successful takes on Star Trek are TOS and TNG, and what those series were about was right in the beginning of the opening narrative: "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise..." Right there it encapsulates what the broader audience recognizes what the show is.

Pretty sure the JJ Abrams films have been widely recognized as a critically and commercially successful as well, never mind the fact that they've rejuvenated interest and clamor for the franchise. You may hate the films, but there's no denying the resurgence of that interest.

 

[Warped9]

Secondly, the two most successful takes on Star Trek are TOS and TNG, and what those series were about was right in the beginning of the opening narrative: "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise..." Right there it encapsulates what the broader audience recognizes what the show is.

Pretty sure the JJ Abrams films have been widely recognized as a critically and commercially successful as well, never mind the fact that they've rejuvenated interest and clamor for the franchise. You may hate the films, but there's no denying the resurgence of that interest.

As much as I detest the JJ films they still support my point in regard to what people in general recognize as Star Trek, at least in broader terms.

 

[doubleohfive]

Secondly, the two most successful takes on Star Trek are TOS and TNG, and what those series were about was right in the beginning of the opening narrative: "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise..." Right there it encapsulates what the broader audience recognizes what the show is.

Pretty sure the JJ Abrams films have been widely recognized as a critically and commercially successful as well, never mind the fact that they've rejuvenated interest and clamor for the franchise. You may hate the films, but there's no denying the resurgence of that interest.

As much as I detest the JJ films they still support my point in regard to what people in general recognize as Star Trek, at least in broader terms.

I'll take that to mean you acknowledge there are some good aspects to the Abrams films.

 

[Warped9]

Pretty sure the JJ Abrams films have been widely recognized as a critically and commercially successful as well, never mind the fact that they've rejuvenated interest and clamor for the franchise. You may hate the films, but there's no denying the resurgence of that interest.

As much as I detest the JJ films they still support my point in regard to what people in general recognize as Star Trek, at least in broader terms.

I'll take that to mean you acknowledge there are some good aspects to the Abrams films.

No, not in the least, but it's still recognizable in a general sense. It has a Kirk, a Spock, a spaceship Enterprise as well as some other familiar names and references and it is set in a future and (partially) in space.

 

[doubleohfive]

As much as I detest the JJ films they still support my point in regard to what people in general recognize as Star Trek, at least in broader terms.

I'll take that to mean you acknowledge there are some good aspects to the Abrams films.

No, not in the least, but it's still recognizable in a general sense. It has a Kirk, a Spock, a spaceship Enterprise as well as some other familiar names and references and it is set in a future and (partially) in space.

So, these same elements which you constitute as "good" in the original series are likewise "not good" in the Abrams films then?

Man, that is fickle.

 

[Kemaiku]

Personally I'd like a series that did not try to emulate anything before it.

 

[doubleohfive]

Personally I'd like a series that did not try to emulate anything before it.

Agreed. Something, you know, new.

 

[Warped9]

I'll take that to mean you acknowledge there are some good aspects to the Abrams films.

No, not in the least, but it's still recognizable in a general sense. It has a Kirk, a Spock, a spaceship Enterprise as well as some other familiar names and references and it is set in a future and (partially) in space.

So, these same elements which you constitute as "good" in the original series are likewise "not good" in the Abrams films then?

Man, that is fickle.

I like James Bond as a character, but that doesn't mean I like every Bond film. Same with any other character I might like. I like Kirk and company as characters, but not if they're corrupted into something I don't recognize or agree with. I like Star Trek as a concept, but not if it's made into something I find bad.

 

[Gassy Man]

I think it's inevitable that a series will be made -- they have sets, costumes, and a built in audience. All they have to do is recast it with nobodies to keep the cost down. I suspect the desire to make the next film part of the five-year mission has more to do with launching a new series than because of some sense of tradition. When Star Wars comes out, Abrams will once again be all over the news, and if a sci-fi-theme showed with his name on it can be rolled out, the built-in publicity is obvious with Star Trek.

 

[Warped9]

I think it's inevitable that a series will be made -- they have sets, costumes, and a built in audience. All they have to do is recast it with nobodies to keep the cost down. I suspect the desire to make the next film part of the five-year mission has more to do with launching a new series than because of some sense of tradition. When Star Wars comes out, Abrams will once again be all over the news, and if a sci-fi-theme showed with his name on it can be rolled out, the built-in publicity is obvious with Star Trek.

I honestly can't give those in charge credit enough to be thinking in those terms.

If they did reuse the JJ sets and such there'd be another reason I'd stay away since it would be another connection to that version and continuity.

 

[Christopher]

My vote would be for a new Trek TV series that views the future from the perspective of today, and not the 1960s - in terms of everything from technology, morals, issues, etc.

A true reboot, restart. New cast, new characters, new style. No continuity ties. No baggage.

I agree. I've said before that ST suffers from being rooted in a 1960s view of the future -- and to a large extent a 1940s-pulp view of the future. Later productions have made superficial efforts to graft on more modern concepts like nanotechnology and transhumanism, but only to a cursory degree that's had little impact on the universe. The franchise as a whole has also done a poor job of outgrowing the male/Anglo-Saxon/heteronormative bias of the original. It would take a wholesale reboot from scratch to make ST truly forward-looking again.

What about other kinds of series' set in the Star Trek universe? TOS was Wagon Train to the stars. What about a Federation-based CSI or NCIS? A hospital show? A school show? Have stories revolving around the lives of ordinary Federation citizens. What about a West Wing-style political show about the Federation president?

We've done a lot of those in the novels. Keith DeCandido's Articles of the Federation was blatantly The West Wing done Star Trek-style (or vice-versa). My own Department of Temporal Investigations series is sort of in the vein of a cop or FBI procedural. There was a Starfleet Corps of Engineers series and various different Starfleet Academy books and comics. And I think somebody pitched a Starfleet Medical proposal somewhere along the way, but we haven't had that yet.