should oral sex be depicted in star trek: discovery? hear me out
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We have plenty of oral hygiene in Discovery. I would say in fact we have more oral hygiene in Discovery than any other Star Trek show. Now we know Hoshi Sato had a sonic toothbrush, but Stamets and Culber's toothbrush technology is over a century more advanced. Can't we just stick with that?
Yes, between the two Gay characters. Would sum up This show.
Well considering two gay people engaged in oral sex are likely enjoying themselves to orgasmic levels, I'd have to agree.
It's humans being humans - something of which Discovery is in dire need.
What about a Kelpian being a Kelpian? Can he lick his own eyeball like a cow? Is he into that? We need to know.
Discovery isn't high Kelpian drama.
I like sex. I like sex on TV if/when it suits a storyline (or I'm in the mood for porn
) - but suddenly because Star Trek has a TV MA rating and is streaming, you want them to perform (or imply they're performing certain sex acts?No, just no.
Heck, I'd even settle for Tilly serenading Micheal with Teena Marie's "Lovergirl."
On a Keytar, obviously.
On a Keytar, obviously.
We let one of these side swipes at the show's diversity go on the grounds we may have misinterpreted your comment about Whoopi Goldberg, but sadly it seems we had given you too much credit.
Infraction for homophobic trolling, comments to PM.
I'll be serious to say this: There's very little interesting shows one can watch with their kids without those cringeworthy moments. I can accept characters have sex and have various ways they might do that. I also get they probably have some new sonic method in or transporter technology that is better than a commode and Charmin. I don't need all the details.
If they make Trek too adult they'll never get a new fan base at an early age. I was watching reruns in the 70's before 1st grade, and actually remember a few of them. Hooked for life. Don't ruin it for everyone just for realism.
If they make Trek too adult they'll never get a new fan base at an early age. I was watching reruns in the 70's before 1st grade, and actually remember a few of them. Hooked for life. Don't ruin it for everyone just for realism.
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No thank you...
...But everybody else is doing it...
Consenting and informed, noting how many people who have a STD (no pun meant) never bother to tell their lovers about it regardless of the percentages no matter how small.
I've seen a lot of shows where they show actual sex acts (soft porn, basically). What's so special about or what's the point of that? Sens8 showed porny stuff, maybe moire than what was needed to get the point across that the linked telepaths are now going all ADHDTVSquirrelNuts over two of them being inconsiderate enough while knowing their comrades are in life or death situations at the same time, if that's what's supposed to be deemed "funny" nowadays... And just seeing 3 people go into a room together is sufficient, the audience isn't that stupid to not be able to figure it out so they have to show it as graphically as possible. Well, these days I'm no longer sure... I do miss the days of suggestive content, it gets under the radar much easier. Ask Deela and Kirk, when she was combing her already perfect and ungreasy hair, he was putting his go-go boots back on. So either they were knocking boots (oh, micro-abrasions would pretty much be the end of Kirk at that point) or playing dressing up mannequins that Kirk had taken from the Rec Deck's theater last seen in "The Conscience of the King", or whatever...
Pushing buttons is one thing, common sense, or basic human decency is arguably another. They should try merging the two, pun intended.
It wasn't all that great when Beverly faked it on screen in 1993 either, that or the actual story didn't make anything noteworthy - just shock jock antics with no real point... unless the ghost was using sex to lure her into its taking over her body in a more permanent sort of way but it's not exactly one of TNG's finest hours regardless if the sweeps week scene is in there or not...
the problem with the idea is the scope of the show isn't exploring sexual relationships. Even if it were exploring romantic relationships...
A well written show or episode writes to the point it is trying to depict or make. Sex itself isn't even necessarily important to romance, I have a hard time thinking of a point to it being used as a part of the story telling in this show.
A well written show or episode writes to the point it is trying to depict or make. Sex itself isn't even necessarily important to romance, I have a hard time thinking of a point to it being used as a part of the story telling in this show.
What, only their pleasure and not their partner's? One day I need to do a polling during Pride...
Kids don't matter anymore. Except it's kids that become the fans who then make the new eras... just how deprived and/or depraved were yesterday's kids to force the issue down everybody's throats? (dang, didn't even realize that one until re-reading the whole message before posting...)
TOS, as I mentioned above, implied it often enough and even the infamous boots scene, it all still flies over kids' heads. But showing it outright when they're not physically, mentally, or emotionally mature to understand? Ask (most) survivors of pedophilia and convince them how making a sexually open society will fix more harm than what will be created. Society decided, via the course of evolution, to make some things taboo. Never mind if a STD is transmitted, especially herpes or HIV but at least herpes is as benign as chicken pox and shingles and up to 80% of the adult population has it and half of them genuinely don't know it. Rightly or wrongly, but back in the day there were no medications for bacteria or virii (that would adapt to them to make drug-resistant versions anyway, Darwin figured this stuff more than a century ago yet today's people seem to have slid backwards on the evolutionary slide.)
If ST-D wants to be a real mature show, let's see more depth into their stories. The instruction manual is beyond trite due to its ubiquitousness online. The intelligence is still missing from television. Or maybe there's a scene that has some thought put to it, I did miss the episode in question.
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