Poll Should Lower Decks acknowledge modern Trek?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by F. King Daniel, Jul 23, 2021.

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Should Lower Decks reference modern Trek?

  1. Yes, I want Disco/Picard/SNW references too!

    56 vote(s)
    75.7%
  2. No, only reference Trek up until ENT

    18 vote(s)
    24.3%
  1. Aragorn

    Aragorn Admiral Admiral

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    They should start referencing Star Wars, The Expanse, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica. :D
     
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  2. Mogh

    Mogh Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I mean technically, there's nothing stopping BSG being the very distant past in the same timeline...
     
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  3. Kelso

    Kelso Vice Admiral Admiral

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    One of the great things about LDS is that it celebrates all of Trek. So, yes, modern Trek references are welcome.
     
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  4. Ríu ríu chíu

    Ríu ríu chíu Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Depends on which version you're talking about:

    The original BSG is, at the very earliest, set in the 20th century, because they pick up the Apollo 11 signals in the final episode. However as they point out, that signal could have been bouncing around the ether for centuries or even millennia. So BSG-TOS' time frame is basically a complete unknown, except for the fact that we know it CAN'T be the past.

    As for nuBSG: We do know when it was set - 150,000 years ago. So *IT* is obviously the past. TOS can't be.

    I'm totally ignoring G1980 in the above bit, BTW. ;)

    "I think he did a little too much LDS." :D
     
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  5. XmasCV330

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    I do wonder if they will address the Equinox's Ransom at some point.
     
  6. Ríu ríu chíu

    Ríu ríu chíu Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You mean, is he related to Jack? I doubt it. It's a common enough name.
     
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  7. XmasCV330

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    Look at all the multi-generational Starfleet families though.
    Kirk, Freeman, Paris, Decker. I know there are others I am missing.

    added: Crusher
     
  8. Mogh

    Mogh Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That, and Lower Decks never knowingly misses a chance to make a canon reference.
     
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  9. Tim Allen Thomason

    Tim Allen Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Amongst the main characters:
    * TOS/TAS: Kirk, Scott/Preston, Sulu
    * TNG: Picard (ancestor was in UESPA), Riker (father a civilian consultant), La Forge, Crusher, Troi
    * Voyager: Janeway, Paris, Tuvok's family
    * Discovery: Burnham (Section 31 parents)
    * LD: Freeman/Mariner

    Additionally, it was suggested by later writers that Valerie Archer was descended from Jonathan Archer, suggesting another Starfleet dynasty there (and non-canon is full of Starfleet families for pretty much all characters in some form). The Ransom possibility is similar to the Archer possibility, and may come up someday, although I can't really see an easy way to fit the reference in, even with Lower Decks' standard of sledgehammering in references sometimes.
     
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  10. dupersuper

    dupersuper Commodore Commodore

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    There was also Garovick (sp?), the security officer who was the son of Kirks old captain, and according to Star Trek Continues there's also Garret (as in Captain of the Enterprise C).
     
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  11. Uhura's Song

    Uhura's Song Commander Red Shirt

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    Hard to reference future events, yes?

    Perhaps S1 Disco, but that is all hush hush. SNW should be fair game.
     
  12. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    I believe there SHOULD be at least one reference to DISCO on Lower Decks:

    Boimler: I want you to meet my sister.

    Mariner: Wait, you don't have a sister.

    Boimler: Of course I have a sister.

    Mariner: You can't just introduce a sibling you never mentioned!

    Boimler: Spock did it twice!
     
  13. Zor-El

    Zor-El Ensign Newbie

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    I think it'd be neat if we saw some of the newer aliens in the background like the octopus/spider face lady we always see on DIS but I'd like Lower Decks to stand on its own and not worry about crossovers.
     
  14. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    I mean I think DISCO is rife for making the kind of jokes that make Lower Decks fine. Not because I dislike Disco but because I love it.

    And you could make Picard ones too.

    Boimler: Holy crap, according to these readings, the Sun of Romulus is going to explode and kill everyone.

    Mariner: Eh, leave it.

    Boimler: What?

    Mariner: What, like the Romulans are going to ignore their sun exploding. That's like people on Earth ignoring green house gasses.

    Boimler: Oh right. *chucks datapad*
     
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  15. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    I'm pretty sure that one of the security officers that took Mariner away in the Lower Decks season premier was Xahean, and if so, that would make them the first New Era alien to appear in every iteration (including Short Treks, where they were introduced) of modern Trek.
     
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  16. Tim Allen Thomason

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    He was Antaran. He's been on the show since the first episode. A regular background character, and one of two Antarans (the other being the Alhambra version of Ransom) seen on the show.

    Antarans were featured in just one episode of Enterprise, previously.
     
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  17. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.
     
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  18. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    I think light ribbing of the Kurtzman era would go over fine to be honest.

    Boimler: Section 31! Those guys are an illegal terrorist organization in the Federation!

    Mariner: Yeah, they totally harsh our vibe and cool idealistic nature!

    Rutherford: It says here they used to be a branch of Starfleet Intelligence.

    Boimler: Yeah, like a hundred and fifty years ago. Then their AI tried to kill all life.

    Rutherford: *tugs collar* Uh, they punish people for that?
     
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  19. DEWLine

    DEWLine Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    They ARE part of the Kurtzman era. If they take shots at their own gaffes, that's fine.
     
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  20. Qonundrum

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    Why not? If they keep the same tone LD has used for the original and spinoffs, and that's one of the cool things about this show is the balance of tones it quickly showed it had from day one. It might get more people interested in the other shows, if they're tuning into this one for the first time - or people on the fence with the new shows. Or maybe those who tried the first time, disliked it, but have warmed up to it more since.
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