Should JJ Abrams direct Star Trek 4?

[Dales]

I know Abrams is having a blast making star wars. he even said its a dream come true for him as he has been dreaming about is as a young kid but I also like to believe it is phrase he still holds on to as a child and he has not gotten over it or has gotten over it without realising he has.

Abrams reminds me of this friend that I once had. As a young lad my friend's had this huge puppy love for this girl in 9th grade and the much of high school and he could never date her. he grows up and meets another girl in college who he dates and falls in love with but his child hood crush comes back and he is so psyched that he dumps his college girlfriend to date his childhood crush only to realise he is actually in love with his college girlfriend and his childhood crush was just a crush and a phrase in his life he has gotten over without even knowing and neither was it real adult love like he had with his college girlfriend. it was puppy love.


That is the way I see Abram's with trek and wars. JJ fell in love with trek as an adult and he feel in love with star wars as a kid and now he has gone back to his first love/crush but he will then realise his first love (star wars) is not his real true love but a phrase he had to get over or has gotten over as an adult without even knowing especially after making 2 star trek films and this will make him come back to star trek and make the 4th film like my friend went back to his college girlfriend.

Fingers crossed. I hope he returns.

 

[Dukhat]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

Well, while it's interesting that you think you're able to determine Abrams's mental state simply by reading a few words from an interview, I declined the poll, because I honestly don't care who directs future Star Trek movies as long as they're good.

 

[Dukhat]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

does not matter who directs it, produces it writes it or whatever, the damage is done in my opinion,

What damage is that?

 

[BillJ]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

...I honestly don't care who directs future Star Trek movies as long as they're good.

Pretty much where I'm at. If Justin Lin does a good job then I'll be all for him to handle Star Trek 4.

 

[Dukhat]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

the way most things have been cast aside.
How to me the recent movies have dismissed trek history , used this alternate reason to bastardize everything.

But I have to be careful I say too much for fear of my opinion will cause offense to others and I get into trouble for saying such things.

Well, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Although that opinion would usually hold more weight if there were specific points of contention than just "the way most things have been cast aside," "dismissed Star Trek history" and "alternate reason to bastardize everything." Those are pretty nebulous statements that are hard to take seriously without context.

The problem I find is that most Abrams haters on this board tend to use those types of statements to justify their hatred, which of course fall on deaf ears because of the very nature of their nebulousness. Only a select few have given justifiable, meaningful reasons why they don't like the new films.

 

[BillJ]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

I liked the lens flares. It gave the Abrams movies a distinctive look/style.

 

[Dukhat]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

I could expand but would only serve to start another debate where people would seek to insist I was wrong.

As for a new director, lets hope they will understand lens flare and the obsession with them is not the way forward.

Notice that I didn't say you were wrong. Just that your reasons lacked context.

And FWIW, I didn't care for the lens flares either. As a matter of fact, I hate the new Enterprise design. But those things didn't stop me from my personal enjoyment of the movies. They're just window dressing to me.

 

[Trek Survivor]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

I'm not against him coming back, but I am also quite happy if others want to come and take a swing at it. Hopefully Lin delivers a great movie; I would welcome see other directors also doing so.

 

[Firebird]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

There's no point in even thinking about who should direct a possible fourth film until we have some indication of how Justin Lin is doing. Frankly, I'm excited to see what he's gonna do. It's far too early to be putting the cart before the horse.

I find it interesting you made a poll, Dales, yet your title for the thread makes a strong case for you not really being interested in the dissenting opinions.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

I think Abrams has done some good things for Trek and some bad things. I don't see any likelihood that he would improve the things I dislike if he came back, so I'd just as soon he not come back (and I very much doubt he will). My ideal situation would be to have a new person running the show who can take all the good Abrams did and build it further while getting rid of the bad. I hope Lin is the guy who can do that, though I have no idea really.

But it's not like I'll be storming the lot if Abrams does return. I'll give any movie a shot - especially as long as we still have these actors (imo, the best thing that Abrams has done for Trek is the casting).

 

[Dukhat]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

I find it interesting you made a poll, Dales, yet your title for the thread makes a strong case for you not really being interested in the dissenting opinions.

I think he meant to type something like "Should JJ Abrams direct Star Trek 4?" like in the actual poll. But then I'd be guilty of inquiring into his mental state just like he seems to be doing with Abrams.

 

[Dales]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

does not matter who directs it, produces it writes it or whatever, the damage is done in my opinion,

From a technical standpoint I am sure there are plenty of directors that could do as good or bad a job as abrams has done

For those that love 2009, STID and no doubt STB they will not care, I think those that have lost faith in this alternate stuff dont really care, a new director might improve things but its too little too late

I must admit, Into darkness made me loose faith in the alternate stuff but I have still held on to hope

 

[Demon_82]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

I won't vote until I see Lin's work, I think it's fair to give him the chance :P

 

[shapeshifter]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

Option 3 Wait to see how Lin does before choosing which style I like better.

 

[M'Sharak]

Re: JJ Abrams should direct Star Trek 4

Option 4: Abrams is still (as has been the case since 2006) primarily a producer, and (until we hear otherwise) Bad Robot will still be the production company for a fourth Star Trek movie.

When the time comes (in 2018, or so) Abrams will be one of the people involved in the process of selecting a director. He could opt (as he did in with the first two films) to be the director himself, or he could (again) be busy enough with other projects that it would be impractical for him to to take that task on, and opt instead to go with another director. Or go with Lin again, if his first outing with Trek yields favorable results.

Dales, I'll fix your thread title for you. Please endeavor to be more careful in the future and be sure to proofread your thread before posting it.

 

[Magellan]

I voted no. I'm not an Abram's fan to begin with but instead of rehashing those arguments, he chose not to direct Trek. It's Lin's turn. If he's good then let him keep doing it. If he isn't then let fresh talent take over. There are a lot of directors out there who could do an interesting spin on Trek.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I don't really care who it is as long as he or she is respectful of the source material. Trek has been pretty lucky with this, outside of maybe Baird.

If Lin has fun and wants to do it again, great. If Abrams gets tired of sabbatical and isn't asked to helm the third SW anthology and decides he wants to give it another go, good on him. If Paramount decides to go with someone else, then fine.

That said, I really want to see a Burton helmed Star Trek film, simply out of morbid curiosity.

 

[Franklin]

I don't really care who it is as long as he or she is respectful of the source material. Trek has been pretty lucky with this, outside of maybe Baird.

If Lin has fun and wants to do it again, great. If Abrams gets tired of sabbatical and isn't asked to helm the third SW anthology and decides he wants to give it another go, good on him. If Paramount decides to go with someone else, then fine.

That said, I really want to see a Burton helmed Star Trek film, simply out of morbid curiosity.

I'm in. But only if Johnny Depp is the villain.

Out of those who have been serious candidates (or at least seriously discussed candidates) I have the same curiosity about Brad Bird directing a "Star Trek" film, myself.

On topic, I tend to agree with those who say that if Abrams doesn't direct it himself, the person who does will be more or less his choice. There are certainly plenty of capable people out there. I just hope each installment makes the bar even higher.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I wouldn't even have considered Burton before, but I just watched that new doc on Superman Lives last night. Some of his ideas for Krypton and the space ships were just so out there and yet perfect for Trek, I thought.

 

[Greg Cox]

Honestly, we haven't even laid eyes on STB yet. Why are we already worrying about who will direct the next, next movie?

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here . ...