Should I rewatch it?
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Yes.
Re-watch DS9 again. Better value for your time.
I was always down on VOY and ENT in the hiatus years. When ENT was new, I only watched a handful of episodes from the first season, so my criticism there was on pretty thin ground.
When they all dropped on Netflix, I re-watched the lot and I found a whole new appreciation for Voyager.
It's not become my favourite (nor has ENT) and it never quite hits the highs of the other shows but it has a good average and the highs it does get are still pretty high.
So, if you've only watched it once, I'd say give it a go.
When they all dropped on Netflix, I re-watched the lot and I found a whole new appreciation for Voyager.
It's not become my favourite (nor has ENT) and it never quite hits the highs of the other shows but it has a good average and the highs it does get are still pretty high.
So, if you've only watched it once, I'd say give it a go.
I'm currently in the middle of a full series watch / re-watch (I did not watch the full series when it aired originally. I probably saw 1/3 of the episodes).
It is a struggle. I've honestly been trying for 2 years to get through it. I find I have to be in the right mood to spend time on it. There are some great episodes in there, though...and it's interesting discovering Trek that I've never watched before.
It is a struggle. I've honestly been trying for 2 years to get through it. I find I have to be in the right mood to spend time on it. There are some great episodes in there, though...and it's interesting discovering Trek that I've never watched before.
Yes.
Yes, watch it from beginning to end. The first three sesons are great, especially season 2.
But skip episode 23 in season 6. It's a piece of insulting crap and not worth to waste any time on it.
I agree on that.
But that episode was at least a bit funny.
That episode in season 6 wasn't.
That's kind of insulting to the career of Jennifer Lien and one of her most interesting outings in the role of Kes. While I realize not everyone was a fan of hers, to just tell someone to skip that episode entirely seems sad.
It's a flawed episode but one of the better ones in terms of character development. It's a lot of run watching Lien as Kes angry and disturbed. Her acting is not great, but honestly, was it ever? It gets the job done and the rampage is a lot of fun.
Lynx is a passionate Kes fan so that episode brings a lot of protective ire out.
We all have aspects of Trek that we feel strongly about. Myself included.
Same here.
I don't think that my comment is "insulting to the career of Jennifer Lien". No more insulting than if a music journalist writes that the Rolling Stones album Their Satanic Majesties Request is bad album, which it actually is and the band members agree on that. (However, compared to the s**t episode in Voyager's sseason 6, that album is a classic masterpiece.)
A piece of s**t is a piece of s**t and it would be a downright lie to state something else.
How you can find that sorry excuse for a Star Trek episode "entertaining" and "fun" is unbelievable, unless you like character destruction and how stupid producers manage to destroy a beloved character and insult the fans of the character at the same time.
It wasn't character development, it was character destruction!
You state that "the episode gets the job done" which it actually did. Berman and Braga wanted to destroy the character and show the finger to the fans of the character and that was the job they wanted done.
Fans of Star Trek TOS sometimes complain about the episode Spock's Brain and how it almost ruined the character. But the s**t episode in season 6 of Voyager was 50 times worse. Total destruction and no way back.
That episode is a piece of s**t. It was rude and insulting and didn't contribute to anything in the ongoing story of the ship and its crew. Therefore it should be erased from all future relesaes of Voyager DVD:s and from all streaming services which air the series.
Art is highly subjective. It's not a lie if they don't find it to be as you state. Nor should it be assumed that the writers were seeking character destruction.
Based upon...what, exactly? Did they state that? I'll not disagree with your subjective opinion but unless they said as much such accusations are hard to take seriously.
We find common ground. I'm not even a Stones fan and I don't like TSMR. They were just cashing in, and who can blame them? But that's for another topic.
I have a tendency to get distracted. Of course we all have our differences of opinion. Bryan Fuller is not everyone's cup of raktajino. He definitively likes to shake things up. For me Fury is a pretty interesting "Side road", or a what-might-have-been in Voyager. In the era of serialization we could have had an entire series arc based on Kes as the antagonist we see in Fury. That would have shaken season 7 up a bit. There would have been more time to explore her motivations, watch her age dramatically from episode to episode, perhaps like the much more recent Saru arc in discovery, come out the other side as something altogether transformed.
I wish she would have killed Neelix. That would have given the episode the gravitas that maybe some feel it lacked, which might explain the negative reviews. It's hard to take her path of destruction with too much concern when you know the ship will be shining and bright next week with perhaps yet a few more less maquis crew that you somehow had never seen before, anyway, so who cares?
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