Should Discovery do an arc on the Temporal Cold War?
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The TCW was one of the stupidest things the franchise has done and it really hampered ENT for two seasons. It should be 100% dropped/forgotten/excised (and hell, they did that at the start of ENT Season 4 - Daniels basically said Time re-aligned so the TCW never occurred <--- and yes, I know how stupid that sounds but I didn't write the script, and if anything it shows why the whole TCW mess is best 100% forgotten.
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No, just no...
tldr:
No, just no...
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Absolutely not. Been there, done that. Could we please bring on something new...thanks.
It would only make sense if it was used as a excuse to bring a beloved character from a different time to them like maybe Shatner as Kirk or something like that. Even then there are many other setuos used to create a time travel story so i'm not sure what they could even do with it. No way the invest a whole arc on it and if they don't do stand alone stories anymore it means you got to connect this story with whatever arc they are doing. I guess we could also see it as a means of bringing Captain Georgiou back to life.
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And this is why I personally despise time travel and mirror universe stories. Imho it is a parlour trick so you can pull a dead character out of thin air and poof...nothing matters anymore because you can do a timey whiny, space magic trick and erase what came before. Why invest in any arc or character when, with the stroke of a pen, it's gone!
I would rather that they left the whole TCW story alone. However, it could help with providing an in-universe explanation for some of the creative changes made to Star Trek in DISCO. If we had gotten a season 4 of ENT (edit: I meant season 5 
) it was going to be explained that the reason the Suliban and the Romulans had cloaking technology, at such an early stage in their timeline, had been due to interference from the TCW. The fact that Klingon’s also have the same ability to cloak in DISCO may also suggest they had help from one of the TCW factions. Everything, from the changes in ship designs, the makeup, and even the behavioural characteristics of the Klingons could be explained through the TCW.
The other advantage, or disadvantage (depending on your point of view), is that it was revealed that Future Guy's identity was most likely going to be a future version of Captain Archer. At the very least it would make for an interesting cameo to have Archer appear in DISCO.
Burnham defeats Archer and reminds him of the ideals of Starfleet, ideals which she herself have once forgotten. I know that its a crap idea for a story, but it is the kind of thing I could imagine the DISCO writers coming up with.
) it was going to be explained that the reason the Suliban and the Romulans had cloaking technology, at such an early stage in their timeline, had been due to interference from the TCW. The fact that Klingon’s also have the same ability to cloak in DISCO may also suggest they had help from one of the TCW factions. Everything, from the changes in ship designs, the makeup, and even the behavioural characteristics of the Klingons could be explained through the TCW.The other advantage, or disadvantage (depending on your point of view), is that it was revealed that Future Guy's identity was most likely going to be a future version of Captain Archer. At the very least it would make for an interesting cameo to have Archer appear in DISCO.
Burnham defeats Archer and reminds him of the ideals of Starfleet, ideals which she herself have once forgotten. I know that its a crap idea for a story, but it is the kind of thing I could imagine the DISCO writers coming up with.
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It's hard enough to get up any enthusiasm for the next season now that they've killed off Lorca, doing anything with the temporal cold war from ENT and I doubt I'd even watch the 2nd season, even if it was for free.
I hated the temporal cold war and the stupid Xindi season. I'm one of those weirdos that think the 4th season of ENT was it's best and what it should have been delivering all along.
I hated the temporal cold war and the stupid Xindi season. I'm one of those weirdos that think the 4th season of ENT was it's best and what it should have been delivering all along.
I wouldn’t do anything with it...buuuttttt, if it would help calm things down among the “fandom” I guess a one episode diversion into the TCW to “explain” the differences (that really don’t need explaining) might be amusing (whether for its effectiveness at resolving the various...discontinuities or for taking the nerd rage to whole new levels—either works for me).
I wouldn’t do anything with it...buuuttttt, if it would help calm things down among the “fandom” I guess a one episode diversion into the TCW to “explain” the differences (that really don’t need explaining) might be amusing (whether for its effectiveness at resolving the various...discontinuities or for taking the nerd rage to whole new levels—either works for me).
I guess I'm in the minority but I'm not concerned with the inconsistency. Every show has played with canon to a certain extent and I give writers some artistic leeway when writing for a show with this many different series behind it. We would never get another Star Teek if we became too inflexible. I'm not saying canon is unimportant but for me it on a scale from perfect to omg. I'm not even close to the later.
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We have already had a MU arc and Section 31 is coming next season so I will be very surprised if we don't get a Temporal Cold War arc of some sort.
Wait... We didn't get a season 4? Oh my gods, the TCW has started again and season 4 has been erased from the timeline
Wait, there were 4 seasons? I MISSED A WHOLE SEASONWait... We didn't get a season 4? Oh my gods, the TCW has started again and season 4 has been erased from the timeline
If someone really thought the show ended on that Space Nazi cliffhanger, that would be...Wait, there were 4 seasons? I MISSED A WHOLE SEASON
...actually better than the finale we got
As a core concept, I actually think the TCW was a pretty cool idea. But the name is stupid. (It doesn't make sense.) And it doesn't really work as a B-Plot serial. But I think a single character-focused show told with a non-linear narrative structure similar to Slaughterhouse-Five could actually be pretty good.
If someone really thought the show ended on that Space Nazi cliffhanger, that would be...
...actually better than the finale we got
i thought the 4th season ended with that Martian 2-part episode. I had no idea there was something after that.
I went with Bring it.
How could it hurt?
Mirror Lorca (or Prime Lorca) as Future Guy, FTW.
How could it hurt?
Mirror Lorca (or Prime Lorca) as Future Guy, FTW.
I like your idea.
And the spore chamber could be the device used to transmit his image through time and space.
The special effect that we see in the spore chamber is not unlike that which surrounds Future Guy. Are those blue spores around him?
And the reason why Future Guy is always in silhouette is because he is transmitting from a dark room, due to his sensitivity to light.
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