Shoud Star Trek ever have a Good Video Game?

[johnsonalmighty]

Well Star Trek Legacy and D.A.C. seems to say otherwise, I ask this. Should Star Trek Ever get a good(8-9/10 on the Ign Scale) Video Game. Sure we will be getting Star Trek online soon, but I view that as more of an extreme life waster much like World of Warcraft. What I want is a current Gen game that has a Good Story, Lots of Exploration, compelling characters, Graphics and what not. An IDEAL Star trek game on the market right now isn't Star trek at all, it's called Mass Effect.
Honestly they got some things right, and I would love a Star Trek game that played out like Mass Effect. Now I ask you what would like to see in a Star trek game.

Cheers

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Trek XI is probably a bad basis for a video game, I can't really think of how to readily translate the new movie into a gaming experience.

 

[Jax]

I want a STAR TREK ARMADA 3 with 2's graphics but 1's gameplay for most part. This movie never had the ability to create a decent game though a Bridge Commander esq game in this era would be loved

PARAMOUNT

The MMO which if you look on there website incorporates the Supernova plot into the game should be good enuff to keep my TREK gaming urges happy.

 

[Bertie]

There are no decent Star Trek games on current generation platforms, and thinking backward I can only remember two in the last decade: Bridge Commander and Elite Force 1. Those Starfleet Battles-type games whose names I forget were kind of cool, too, although buggy.

The former was one of the few titles—maybe the only title—to get starship style combat right. It's UI and controls were way, way beyond Legacy. But we just don't have enough knowledge about all the different kinds of ships in the new Star Trek XI universe to do a game like this right. Part of the appeal of Bridge Commander was that basically everything in the TNG era was flyable—even Ferengi and Cardassian in addition to Klingon/Romulan/Fed—and we have no idea what all that stuff looks like in the new timeline.

But Elite Force—something like that might be doable in the Star Trek XI universe right now. Part of the appeal of that game was that you could kind of wander around Voyager and see all the locations, which were pretty faithful to the show. There might be enough visuals of the New Enterprise on the record to make this kind of thing possible—and you don't have to worry what any other ship looks like if the game story is a one-off disconnected adventure like it was in Elite Force.

Furthermore, Elite Force was told from the point of a random Redshirt, using an original adventure that didn't appear in the series (although it was a little like the 7th season episode in which they were stuck in a black void and other ships were plundering them). This means that the developers don't have to worry as much about continuity issues with the main characters. Just get a bit of voice acting from whomever you can get in order to add some flavor.

 

[Mr. B]

Building on Bertie's post, apparently it's impossible to derive good video games from movies. 99 times out of 100, a movie game will be tortuously flawed. However, in the realm of TV/film and within the Star Trek franchise, Elite Force was a huge success. It had a respectable original story within the Voyager universe and had a solid foundation in the Quake III engine. In large part it stands alone in my opinion, even the Elite Force sequel was mediocre. I wouldn't hang any hopes on a future game for this film or any other.

 

[CaptainHarlock]

* You MUST play Star Trek 25th Anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scLUJjVQPZk

 

[Nerdius Maximus]

* You MUST play Star Trek 25th Anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scLUJjVQPZk

I spent many frustrating hours in the early '90s trying to beat that game. I'd be trapped in a certain room for days at a time trying to figure out the solution.

 

[Bertie]

Ahh...as I was typing my post I had remembered bits and pieces of that old 25th Anniversary game but had forgotten the title. It was good stuff—you could click on almost anything and get some flavor text whether or not it had anything to do with the puzzle at hand.

If I remember right, the last boss was an imitation Enterprise that shot some green ball of death instead of the usual weapons and it took me a few tries to beat it.

 

[johnsonalmighty]

I remember that game....that game was evil! I couldn't ever beat the kilingon bird of prey

 

[Trekker4747]

It did.

It was called "Star Trek: The Next Generation "A Final Unity."

It was like playing an episode.

Best game ever. The aborted TOS game looked like it would've been good too and I also highly enjoyed Star Fleet Academy.

The problem with many Trek games is that they focus a lot on action and battles which a)Trek isn't about and B)it's hard to make fleet-based combat with huge capital ships "exciting."

 

[donners22]

25th Anniversary, Judgment Rites and A Final Unity are the only excellent Trek games, as far as I'm concerned. BotF had some good aspects, but so many bugs and flaws.

Unfortunately, there are incredibly few games of that style these days - hopefully Dragon Age can revive the genre somewhat.

 

[johnsonalmighty]

Nice to hear on everyone thoughts on the old trek games, but what I ment to ask is what you would want to see in a new trek game JJ Canon or not.

 

[IDIC]

I do not know there have been some good Star Trek games. I liked the 25th Anniversary Game, Judgement Rites (Sequel to 25th), Final Unity, Star Trek: Away Team, Star Trek: Starfleet Academy was pretty cool.

If you notice all of these games have something in common, they were not all entirely controlling ships and combat, they did involve thinking.

I think Star Trek Online has the *potential* to be a good game. The graphics look good and suggested gameplay mechanisms sound fun. I think an MMORPG is perhaps the best category for a Star Trek game. So many people already do roleplaying with Star Trek.

 

[urbandk]

I'd like an adventure game based on the new film's universe... the new MMORPG looks awful to me... just a lot of fighting Klingons and coopting neutral worlds to your cause. yawn. you'd think trek fans would be up in arms about it.

an adventure game based on the new film could expand this new crew's palate.

 

[donners22]

Nice to hear on everyone thoughts on the old trek games, but what I ment to ask is what you would want to see in a new trek game JJ Canon or not.

Which is why I listed the few games that were good and noted that they just don't make games like that these days.

I'd love an isometric group-based adventure/RPG Trek game, but that just isn't done any more. I couold live with a Trek game along the lines of Mass Effect, if it's done right (which would be a change).

I'd like an adventure game based on the new film's universe... the new MMORPG looks awful to me... just a lot of fighting Klingons and coopting neutral worlds to your cause. yawn. you'd think trek fans would be up in arms about it.

Which still makes it infinitely closer to the Trek spirit and canon than Conquest.

 

[NCC74894A]

Personally, I've always wanted to see a Trek version of Star Wars: Empire At War - a grand-scale RTS with both space and ground combat.

 

[nx1701g]

Personally, I've always wanted to see a Trek version of Star Wars: Empire At War - a grand-scale RTS with both space and ground combat.

You could set it during the Dominion War. I think that there was a mod designed for EAW with that focus.

On to the topic: I think that a JJ based Trek game could do well. Make it like KOTOR from Star Wars. At least that way you could explain your character becoming Captain at the end without problem.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think an Elite Force type game would be good. That game was a lot of fun, and it could easily be translated to any incarnation of Trek. It's also the type of game that could work on a current gaming platform like PS3 or XBOX, instead of being strictly for PC.

 

[Eddie Roth]

I got back into Trek gaming a little because of the movie. I had to download DAC, even though its gameplay is very very thin. Kind of fun though. But ultimately, not enough. I ordered Legacy, and I'm anxiously waiting to see how that plays.

In the end, however, what I wish for would be a game like 25th Anniversary. An adventure, not just RTS like Armada or straight up ship combat like Starfleet Academy (which I liked however). Mass Effect would be a good template. Sadly I haven't gotten around to playing that one, but I imagine its gameplay to be somewhat similar to Fallout 3, which I love. But that in the Trek universe, you play Kirk in first- or third-person perspective (or ideally you could choose between the main characters or even play all of them), go on away missions like RPG quests and get rewards in the form of upgrades for your ship or your character. Just something with an actual story would be nice. Few Trek games of late have had that.

By the way, is there any way without much hassle to play 25th anniversary today? I could never figure out how to run my PC in DOS...

 

[Johnnymuffintop]

Simply put, the best thing we could hope for would be BioWare making a Star Trek rpg using the Mass Effect 2 engine.