Shortening the journey.

[Tracy Trek]

Exactly how many short-cuts did Voyager get? I believe that the 10,000 light year push that Kes gave them in The Gift was the first one. Then didn't they get another 10 year bonus in Timeless? The device in the Voyager Conspiracy. What are the others? There was something in Dark Frontier I think. Am I missing any?

 

[Triskelion]

Good question! I believe there was one in Hope and Fear.

 

[Tosk]

Endgame springs to mind.

 

[Tracy Trek]

Hope and Fear, you're right. I was also thinking about those sub-space corridors in Dragon's Tooth. I believe that might have been a couple of hundred light years.

I should have said how many short-cuts before Endgame.

 

[MrEscape]

I think there was one in Night also? Can't remember how great a distance they travelled due to it but I think that is another one to add to the list.

 

[hux]

The most intreresting one was in Q2 when Q hands Janeway a padd and says he "did some homework for her" which was a little vague and suggested something scientific rather than Q magic.

Q: I did a little homework for you. Consider it a thank you for everything you did for Junior.
JANEWAY: Not that I don't appreciate it, but this will only take a few years off our journey. Why not send us all the way?
Q: What sort of an example would I be setting for my son if I did all the work for you?

 

[stardream]

I think there was one in Night also? Can't remember how great a distance they travelled due to it but I think that is another one to add to the list.

I think that took two years off.

 

[Tracy Trek]

I think there was one in Night also? Can't remember how great a distance they travelled due to it but I think that is another one to add to the list.

Maybe, for some reason I thought the void was an obstacle they weren't expecting to find and it was going to add more years to their journey than there already was.

But, at any rate they found a way out and it cut 2 years off their journey. Perhaps the business with the Dauntless in Hope and Fear put them into the area of space where the void was. My personal theory about the void was it was a space between the spiral arms of the galaxy.* Now the void in the episode The Void was something else I believe, because there was a space funnel they had to get out of.

*Actually this should be something they might expect to find.

 

[Deks]

1. Kes pushing Voyager 9500 Ly's away
2. Version 1 Slisptream drive = 300 Ly's closer to AQ
3. Night episode = 2500 Ly's journey through wormhole.
4. Version 2 Slisptream drive (custom made and enhanced by the crew) = 10 000 Ly's closer to AQ (the velocity in question correlates to 10 000 Ly's per 1 minute given the dialogue and how long the phase variance took to appear).
5. Subspace catapult = 30 sector of space and 3 years off the journey(implying 3000 ly's).
6. Dark Frontier = 20 000 Ly's from the TW coil.
7. Subspace Corridor = just over 200 Ly's (let's say 201 in total)
8. Q2 episode = let's say 5000 Ly's (or 5 years off the trip).

That brings it to about 50 501 Ly's the jumps gave Voyager... not including the regular Warp travel the ship did over the years.
Have I missed anything?

 

[Catarina]

deks> lastly, Endgame or they'd still be en route.

 

[Terok Nor]

If Voyager had taken place in the JJVerse they could have warped from the Ocampa homeworld to Earth in about 20 minutes.

 

[SPCTRE]

I really would have liked to see a couple of episodes dealing with the Homecoming.

 

[Lynx]

I really would have liked to see a couple of episodes dealing with the Homecoming.

Me too.

 

[Drone]

1. Kes pushing Voyager 9500 Ly's away
2. Version 1 Slisptream drive = 300 Ly's closer to AQ
3. Night episode = 2500 Ly's journey through wormhole.
4. Version 2 Slisptream drive (custom made and enhanced by the crew) = 10 000 Ly's closer to AQ (the velocity in question correlates to 10 000 Ly's per 1 minute given the dialogue and how long the phase variance took to appear).
5. Subspace catapult = 30 sector of space and 3 years off the journey(implying 3000 ly's).
6. Dark Frontier = 20 000 Ly's from the TW coil.
7. Subspace Corridor = just over 200 Ly's (let's say 201 in total)
8. Q2 episode = let's say 5000 Ly's (or 5 years off the trip).

That brings it to about 50 501 Ly's the jumps gave Voyager... not including the regular Warp travel the ship did over the years.
Have I missed anything?

I suppose it's nothing more than a simple equation we're talking about, but I'd appreciate someone quantifying the speed Voyager must have been traveling in those relatively few moments after Kes increased the matter/antimatter reaction ratio to 120%? Paris, someone who knows a bit about this territory, characterized it as impossible. How impossible could it be? Enough to put what happened in uh....Threshold, in the shade? While I think the definition there put that situation in another dimension altogether, if the proposition above might have any currency, why didn't everyone shortly begin their mutation to the wonderful life of hyper sentient lizards?

 

[Commander Salad]

It seemed like every episode in the later seasons ended with Janeway referring to finding a little shortcut.

 

[tomalak301]

Didn't they lose some LYs because they turned around in Course: Oblivion, or did that not matter in the grand scheme of things.

 

[hux]

Course: Oblivion wasn't Voyager.

Though the fact that the copy was ahead of Voyager would suggest some fannying about and taking the scenic route.

 

[Cate]

I haven't ever understood why 7 of 9, with all her Borg knowledge, couldn't have build a transwarp coil or two to speed them on their way.

 

[matthunter]

I haven't ever understood why 7 of 9, with all her Borg knowledge, couldn't have build a transwarp coil or two to speed them on their way.

They could address that by having the construction of coils either being an incredibly toxic process or needing organic components, neither of which would trouble the Borg regarding the loss of drones, but would preclude Voyager from managing it.

 

[Timo]

Have I missed anything?

Only that some of those jumps may have been poorly aimed, moving the ship a lot but not really bringing her closer to home by quite the full number of lightyears.

The heroes or their benefactors do not control the direction of their jump in "Night", say. Or completely control the direction during the long slipstream run of "Timeless". In contrast, Kes must be assumed to have had good aim, and many of the other jumps are defined in terms of ground factually gained, making aim issues irrelevant.

Timo Saloniemi