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Sherlock - Series 2

Starkers said:
Some great interplay between Sherlock and Watson and I have to admit that when the guy said 'cell' I perked up and did wonder if that was going to come back as important. Loved as well how this case dovetailed with bluebell :lol:
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This is where cultural differences come into play. As an American, I did not catch anything unusual about the word "cell" in this context. It obviously stands out, since as Sherlock says people would normally call it a mobile, but it did not prick my ears in any way.
 
Well, the next episode is called "Reichenbach Falls" so we can expect Holmes to die in some way.
I'm also puzzled about the last scene. Does it suggest that Moriarty's obsession with Holmes has been a mental suggestion planted by someone else. Or did they have Moriarty locked up but had to let them go for some reason and that was just a way to show us his creepy obsession?


Cutter John said:
I agree, some great character moments. Interesting how mental stimulation is almost like a drug to Holmes, and he was practically going crazy at the beginning from lack of a case.
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That was 'lifted' from "The Sign of Four" where Holmes is bored out of his mind due to a longer lack of a case and resorts to stimulating his mind by injection a cocaine solution. Doyle describes his left arm as showing plenty of puncture marks. This would have probably been a little too much for today's TV audience, though. After all, Holmes is supposed to be the positive hero.

As for the episode, I thought it was ingenious and it captured the feel of the original story quite well even though it didn't have that much in common with it. The story also has a supernatural touch until you almost believe that it really is a mysterious beast. They capture the essence of these stories really well. The cinematography was beautiful as well. I chuckled at the lens flare in the lab, though. The subtle inclusion of the gay couple was a nice touch. The only thing that bugs me about the show is that Holmes is a lot less functional than the original. But that's probably more realistic. I do like the interaction between him and Watson. This is one of the best shows I've seen so far. Too bad there are so few episodes.
 
Props the the Director and sound editor on this one. The shots of the countryside were absolutely stunning, as was the music. Did anyone else jump at the wierd little scream on the soundtrack and the jump cuts during the scenes when Holmes and the others were exploring the hollow at night?

Also props for Sherlocks 'mind palace' sequence. Really quite fascinating.

nvek86 said:
I didn't like it as much as the last episode, but it was still very good.
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I'd tend to agree. I enjoyed it a lot, but it wasn't nearly as much fun as last weeks story. So I probably won't be rewatching it as many times.

Count Zero said:
That was 'lifted' from "The Sign of Four" where Holmes is bored out of his mind due to a longer lack of a case and resorts to stimulating his mind by injection a cocaine solution. Doyle describes his left arm as showing plenty of puncture marks. This would have probably been a little too much for today's TV audience, though. After all, Holmes is supposed to be the positive hero.
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Probably right. So they've changed it to a nicotine addiction (re the scene in series one where he had a half donzen patchs on his arm).
I have to admit I smiled at the scene of him snorting up Henry's second-hand smoke.

Starkers said:
Very good, Gatiss writes very well for Sherlock. Loved the nature of Baskerville...I almost expected to see the Third Doctor or Liz Shaw wandering round, or the Brig to be in charge of security
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Glad I wasn't the only one who caught that. The first half hour of this story would have made for an amazing old-fashioned type of Doctor Who story. Except of course the hound would have been a real monster.
 
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The mind palace thing is from Hannibal Lector I'm assuming because we even see one of the Lector books on the book shelves.
 
Good episode but, and I hate to say this, it wasn't up to the Sherlock standard. I see a lot of people loved this episode but I found it rather predictable, from the whole situation being drug induced to the true culprit being the old scientist. That being said, I still thoroughly enjoyed because the rapport between Holmes and Watson was fantastic as always.

As for the ending, I have no idea how to take it except to say that I think Holmes and Moriarty are equally obsessed with the other.

InklingStar said:
Starkers said:
Some great interplay between Sherlock and Watson and I have to admit that when the guy said 'cell' I perked up and did wonder if that was going to come back as important. Loved as well how this case dovetailed with bluebell :lol:
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This is where cultural differences come into play. As an American, I did not catch anything unusual about the word "cell" in this context. It obviously stands out, since as Sherlock says people would normally call it a mobile, but it did not prick my ears in any way.
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Indeed. I didn't even notice despite watching lots of British television and accustomed to the term "mobile" as oppose to "cell," but because I'm not actually from England, "cell" just rolled right off my ears with no concern.
 
The strange thing is I've seen and heard mobile a lot recently on American stuff, even my American friend has been using the term movile phone.
 
Cutter John said:
Count Zero said:
That was 'lifted' from "The Sign of Four" where Holmes is bored out of his mind due to a longer lack of a case and resorts to stimulating his mind by injection a cocaine solution. Doyle describes his left arm as showing plenty of puncture marks. This would have probably been a little too much for today's TV audience, though. After all, Holmes is supposed to be the positive hero.
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Probably right. So they've changed it to a nicotine addiction (re the scene in series one where he had a half donzen patchs on his arm).
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I think he only had three patches, making it a "three-patch problem" instead of a "three-pipe problem. They also implied that he had a drug problem at some point, with LeStrade using a drug bust as an excuse to search his flat.
 
loving this series so far...

the Dominatrix Irene Adler was fantastic... and i actually know several Dominatrix' in person who loved her performance there...

loved the hound storyline... can't wait for more :D

M
 
He said that in relation to how the third episode ends.

But Freeman has said that it's all their hope that they do a 3rd series.

I believe Sherlock's drug problem was implied in the first episode of series 2 when Watson and Mrs Hutson search the house to make sure it's clean of anything Sherlock might use.
 
Saul said:
He said that in relation to how the third episode ends.

But Freeman has said that it's all their hope that they do a 3rd series.

I believe Sherlock's drug problem was implied in the first episode of series 2 when Watson and Mrs Hutson search the house to make sure it's clean of anything Sherlock might use.
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Also in Study in Pink when Lestrade has his men search 221b.
 
Saul said:
He said that in relation to how the third episode ends.

But Freeman has said that it's all their hope that they do a 3rd series.

I believe Sherlock's drug problem was implied in the first episode of series 2 when Watson and Mrs Hutson search the house to make sure it's clean of anything Sherlock might use.
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I thought they were looking for his fags ;)
 
I didn't care for "Hound" that much, sadly. It was competently done, but this particular kind of story has been done a million times, and done better in most variations. It was obvious there wouldn't be a truly supernatural explanation for anything. Apart from spooky atmosphere and some good Holmes/Watson interaction, there wasn't much meat here. I think I was mostly let down that Sherlock hardly had anyone to play off of, after the superb foil Irene Adler was last week.

It was enjoyable, it just felt totally inconsequential to me.
 
Wait until this weekend to be sure! Even if the final episode is utter crap, it'll mean three utterly brilliant episodes, two brilliant episodes, and one utterly crappy episode. Quite a track record.

In any case, if the last episode of this series sticks remotely to the original,
We'll have Holmes and Moriarty both apparently dead by the end of it. But if Doyle can come back and resurrect the character some years later, then so can Moffat & Gatiss!

Mark
 
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Mark_Nguyen said:
Wait until this weekend to be sure! Even if the final episode is utter crap, it'll mean three utterly brilliant episodes, two brilliant episodes, and one utterly crappy episode. Quite a track record.

In any case, if the last episode of this series sticks remotely to the original,
We'll have Holmes and Moriarty both apparently dead by the end of it. But if Doyle can come back and resurrect the character some years later, then so can Moffat & Gatiss!

Mark
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I seriously doubt we'll see a crappy episode. Even mediocre Sherlock is better than most other shows best.
 
The final episode of season (yeah yeah) 2 is called The Reichenbach Fall. We all know what that refers to. It has been building since the pilot episode. Even viewers who are not into the books know what happens here. It was even the climax of A Game of Shadows.

So... how are the writers going to twist it up? They've done a stellar job so far of taking the established Holmes plots and keeping them fresh and surprising. Even if they end the episode the way Arthur Conan Doyle ended the original story, there's not a single person who would believe it. They know that we know the twist already. So... how are they going to pull the rug from beneath us? What twist-within-a-twist can we expect?

I look forward to finding out soon.
 
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