I agree with all of this, I was just responding to Wormhole's statement that the only way it could affect the novels are the Shatner verse. My point is that's not correct, because even though we don't know anything for sure, there's still the possibility that Shatner is used in some way that could affect the current novelverse.
Shatner in Next Movie - Treklit Implications ?
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I agree with all of this, I was just responding to Wormhole's statement that the only way it could affect the novels are the Shatner verse. My point is that's not correct, because even though we don't know anything for sure, there's still the possibility that Shatner is used in some way that could affect the current novelverse.
You just said you agree with my second post, where I re-iterate only the Shatnerverse novels would be affected by Shatner's potential appearance in the movie, while saying my first post that only the Shatnerverse novels would be affected by Shatner's potential appearance is wrong.
It is after all the Shatnerverse that would be contradicted if it were suddenly revealed that Kirk was dead since 2371 only to get resurrected in 2388 or whenever, as that would cancel out all the adventures Kirk had in the years in between. In novel continuity, Kirk died in 2371 and stayed dead. A potential resurrection in 2388 is not going to contradict anything in the novel continuity.
It is after all the Shatnerverse that would be contradicted if it were suddenly revealed that Kirk was dead since 2371 only to get resurrected in 2388 or whenever, as that would cancel out all the adventures Kirk had in the years in between. In novel continuity, Kirk died in 2371 and stayed dead. A potential resurrection in 2388 is not going to contradict anything in the novel continuity.
Ok, now we're getting into minutiae that's really not important, but there's a difference between "affect" and "contradict", they are two separate things. I agree bringing back Kirk wouldn't contradict anything in the current novels, but that's the first time you brought up the issue of contradicting. This thread isn't about contradicting the novelverse. The issue is could it affect the current novel timeline, which is what you said it wouldn't do, and which is what I was responding to.
On-screen, there is nothing that would contradict Kirk being resurrected in 2372. A line from Spock Prime would be all it takes.
Hell, Kirk could come riding through a cross dimension time rift commanding the Enterprise-E with a line stating he'd been in command for the last seven or eight years. That would complicate the novelverse.
Some thoughts on Shatner's possible appearance in the next film...
There's no way, even with CGI trickery, that a 2016 Shatner can reasonably pass for a 1994 pre-Generations Shatner. CGI is good, but it's not that good.
If Shatner appears, I'd honestly prefer that he appear as an aged JJ-verse Shatner. Perhaps there's an epilogue where, circa 2315, JJ-verse Kirk and Spock return the site of the film's main action. That would work for me.
There's no way, even with CGI trickery, that a 2016 Shatner can reasonably pass for a 1994 pre-Generations Shatner. CGI is good, but it's not that good.
If Shatner appears, I'd honestly prefer that he appear as an aged JJ-verse Shatner. Perhaps there's an epilogue where, circa 2315, JJ-verse Kirk and Spock return the site of the film's main action. That would work for me.
If they bring Shatner in, I want to see him in the captain's chair one last time. I'm okay with it being an aged, Abramsverse Kirk.
The way Trek lit is always playing "catch up" with new canon developments is one of the things I love most about it. I'm not sure why, perhaps it's because I enjoy the creative mental gymnastics required in order to reconcile things. It's not essential, and sometimes it goes horribly wrong, but when done right it's awesome.
For example, I'm curious if the novels are going to deal with McCoy's line in ID about giving a C-section to a pregnant Gorn, when in the novelverse the Gorn lay eggs. It's minor enough that they'll probably just ignore it. Or maybe from now on all Gorn give birth, glossing over the discontinuity? Or perhaps just some types do, like the Xindi?
For example, I'm curious if the novels are going to deal with McCoy's line in ID about giving a C-section to a pregnant Gorn, when in the novelverse the Gorn lay eggs. It's minor enough that they'll probably just ignore it. Or maybe from now on all Gorn give birth, glossing over the discontinuity? Or perhaps just some types do, like the Xindi?
I would rather see a Shatner prime playing against Spock prime versus their JJverse analogues. There are many ways to do it from Q to transporter duplication.
Or they could remake "The Deadly Years," and have Kirk, Spock, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura all turn into their older selves...
Or they could remake "The Deadly Years," and have Kirk, Spock, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura all turn into their older selves...
... to be magically cured by Khan's super-blood.
It's McCoy; it could easily be a shorthand reference to having to assist with a particularly complex and, let's say nasty Gorn birth...
He says the little ones bite.
That's the thing about medical science. You never know what you'll run into. The egg didn't release with the others, no one realized the egg was left inside, it developed inside the Gorn, and a C section had to be done as the egg was beginning to hatch. All concerned were just lucky enough to have McCoy there when it was hatching and the C section had to be done.
Works for me...
Out of left field, but didn't I read recently that Zoe Saldana is currently pregnant with twins? When is filming due to start on JJ-Trek 3?
Right now they're saying Spring 2015.
I think February. But as seen in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, it's amazing what they can do with CG to hide a pregnancy.
That said, Uhura having Spock's kids would be interesting...
Scarlett Johannson's daughter was born in September 2014. Main filming for Captain America: The Winter Soldier completed in June 2013. Did you mean concealing her pregnancy in filming for Avengers: Age of Ultron?
