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Shanks on SGU Fan Respose

It's the same tied writing team trying to do something different and no one has faith in them anymore.

From what I've seen, it seems to be more people complaining about Universe because it's different, dark, and not like SG-1 or Atlantis. They want the same thing again.
 
It's the same tied writing team trying to do something different and no one has faith in them anymore.

From what I've seen, it seems to be more people complaining about Universe because it's different, dark, and not like SG-1 or Atlantis. They want the same thing again.

Most are complaining because it looks like a nuBSG clone, not that it is different from SG-1. Different is good, cloning other shows isn't.
 
I think you'll be hard pressed to come up with a show that isn't a "clone" of something else at this point.
 
If they can pull off the arc driven plot successfully, I think they could have something really good. However as compelling as an arc driven plot can be, if the go to far then people could get lost easily.
 
It's the same tied writing team trying to do something different and no one has faith in them anymore.

From what I've seen, it seems to be more people complaining about Universe because it's different, dark, and not like SG-1 or Atlantis. They want the same thing again.

Enterprise was billed as different, dark, and not like TNG or Voyager, despite being done by the same tired writers and producers. It didn't make it to the opening credits before it became Voyager season 8.
 
It's the same tied writing team trying to do something different and no one has faith in them anymore.

From what I've seen, it seems to be more people complaining about Universe because it's different, dark, and not like SG-1 or Atlantis. They want the same thing again.

Enterprise was billed as different, dark, and not like TNG or Voyager, despite being done by the same tired writers and producers. It didn't make it to the opening credits before it became Voyager season 8.

Wow...there is some retcon thinking there. The show was never billed as dark. It was billed as "not your father's Star Trek", which depending on what your father's Star Trek was, you can agree or disagree with.

Also, Ent's writing crew, aside from Berman and Braga, was comprised of either new writers or minor writers from the pervious series. The "heavy hitters" from VGR were not around for Ent.

Additionally, I must disagree with the implication that Ent was nothing more than Voyager season 8. The style and execution of the stories being told, while having generic similarities, were very different.

Also, you must keep in mind that B&B's original idea for ENT was wildly different than anything that came before, but the studio/UPN demanded it be a a ship going on adventures in space.

But this is another debate for another forum.
 
Just like Manny Coto, he tried his best to save Enterprise, but in the end it still sucked because he didn't have full control.


Oh, bullshit.

Coto gave the diehard fans a lot of continuity porn in the last season of Enterprise as a reach-around to make up for the fact that everyone involved knew the show was shitcanned at the end of the season. Most of those episodes were far from brilliant and he was no genius.
 
Agreed, Dennis. Season 4 was a step backwards from Season 3 and Coto was free to do whatever he wanted (apart from TATV)... he chose to do continuity porn and stupid Klingon forehead, Augment, and Orion slave girl episodes.

As for SGU, I'll give the show a chance... even though SG1 really started going down the crapper later on and SGA sorta just plodded on with the same old boring episodes.
 
"Genius" is really an overreaching word to use for someone who managed to entertain the modest number of viewers who were sticking with the "Star Trek Prime Universe" to the very end.

If Coto had been able to produce episodes so good that they pulled viewers back to Star Trek and raised the show's ratings significantly enough to make the network reconsider its cancellation - you could have called that genius! :lol:
 
It's the same tied writing team trying to do something different and no one has faith in them anymore.

Well since I didn't watch SG past S2 and never saw a full ep of SGA, that won't affect me.

And it surprises me to learn that the non-discriminating fans of the last fourteen or so seasons of those shows are expecting anything else!

It's friggin Stargate!

It's pew pew laser guns, post-modern pop culture references and more aliens with chicken mcnuggets on their foreheads, for god's sakes!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Oh who am I kidding, I'll watch the show just because there aren't any other space operas out there. Just don't be painful to endure like Defying Gravity, and I'll most likely stick with it. High standards fall under the crushing tsunami of total desperation...
Ah, excellent. This of course means that we'll continue to have pages and pages of arrogant drivel to read on this board for months to come. :techman:

Ah, so you've met Temis!

;)
 
Just watched SGU

I'm impressed beyond words, I really like it, way better than the formula that SG:A was churning out near the end!
 
Mimicking BSG is a good idea - why not steal from something worth copying? But bleh, they don't have the first idea how to do it. The writing and acting is so dire that all they're accomplishing is to remind me that Stargate is utter drek compared with BSG (which I complained about plenty, but the stuff BSG got wrong was of a higher order of complexity and difficulty, while Stargate can't even get the simple stuff right).
It's the same tied writing team trying to do something different and no one has faith in them anymore.
They've proven that our lack of faith in them is justified. :D At least we can take a little satisfaction from that.

Oh who am I kidding, I'll watch the show just because there aren't any other space operas out there. Just don't be painful to endure like Defying Gravity, and I'll most likely stick with it. High standards fall under the crushing tsunami of total desperation...
Ah, excellent. This of course means that we'll continue to have pages and pages of arrogant drivel to read on this board for months to come. :techman:

Ah, so you've met Temis!

;)

:rommie:

As it turns out, you will be spared. This is so damn bad that I'm going to have to bail on it entirely. Have fun watching this idiocy, suckahs! How nice for you that you have such low standards that you are capable of being entertained by utter drivel.
 
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