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SG: Universe Writers

sidious618

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Okay, so SGU needs new writers, even Brad Wright half admitted this in his interview. Writing will make or break this show. So who do you want to see (within reason-Ron Moore or David Chase won't be writing this show!).

I'd love to see Mark Verheiden join the show. Maybe a writer or two from Burn Notice. Perhaps even an X-Files writer.
 
Anyone whose resume includes Dexter, Deadwood, The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men or Lost.

Haw, I'm dreaming. :rommie: Like they'd take a job working on a dopey sci fi show. Even BSG writers would probably have enough sense to steer clear and shoot for jobs on shows where their talents wouldn't be wasted.

No writer worth spit would work on SG:U unless there was some reason to believe they'd be allowed to actually write something worthwhile and interesting. Even when SG-1 was at its best, it was still pretty formulaic and boxed in. There's no reason to believe anyone with the power to make a decision wants Stargate to be anything different.
 
So Stargate Universe will consist of flashbacks for the majority of the show with some type of black space cloud. Our leader will be chopping people up and solving murders on the destiny.

The scientist will shoot his cousin cause he squealed and put his body in a bag. Everyone will dress up like its the 60's and have a hot secretary for some reason.

With that in mind I nominate Brannon Braga and Rick Berman

oh yeah, I went there
 
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I doubt any writer of significant clout will join, simply because of the reputation Stargate has. Which is kind of a catch-22. I do hope that they at least shuffle the staff around so that somebody else is in charge. Cooper, Wright, Mullie, and Mallozi have all helped grind the series into the ground with their creative leadership. Time for them to step back and let others assume a leadership role.

And for goodness' sake, could they hire a female writer or two?
 
What about Carl Binder doing more episodes ? he seems to be one of the best one the current team.
 
I doubt any writer of significant clout will join, simply because of the reputation Stargate has. Which is kind of a catch-22. I do hope that they at least shuffle the staff around so that somebody else is in charge. Cooper, Wright, Mullie, and Mallozi have all helped grind the series into the ground with their creative leadership. Time for them to step back and let others assume a leadership role.

And for goodness' sake, could they hire a female writer or two?

What reputation is that? Atlantis and SG1 both got good ratinigs on Sci-Fi and lastest a combined 15 years and Atlantis just one the People's Choice Award, SG1's 200 was nominated for a Hugo. And they've had woman writers in the past nobody notices who writes the eps. anyway so I don't see what the big deal is in the first place.
 
I would like to see a girl on the writing team.
One of the things wrong with SGA is that they did not know what to do with the female charters.
 
What reputation is that? Atlantis and SG1 both got good ratinigs on Sci-Fi and lastest a combined 15 years and Atlantis just one the People's Choice Award, SG1's 200 was nominated for a Hugo. And they've had woman writers in the past nobody notices who writes the eps. anyway so I don't see what the big deal is in the first place.

And that there is the only thing of relevance in that post. You've got to have context. Saying Stargate gets good ratings on Sci-Fi is like saying "I got all A's in special ed". As for the oft lauded PCA thing, you've got to remember that while, yes, the SG fandom was clearly very active, they only make up an infinitesimally small percentage of the overall viewing audience. Same thing with the Hugo. Yes they were nominated, but it's not exactly a massive pool to draw from. There are only so many genre shows.

I'm not trying to poop on SG. If I didn't enjoy it (at some point, anyway) I wouldn't be posting this. But in the real-world, a show like SG, from a writers perspective, has all the appeal of a brick wall. A writer can spot a show like that or, say, Enterprise from several light years away. When certain names keep popping up as credits for bad episodes, that gets noticed too.

You're looking at this from the perspective of a fan. But a professional writer has to look at it from the perspective of a person looking for a sweet gig, where, if they have any creative integrity (too many don't) and have a good reputation in the biz, they'll have to think "self-preservation". Stargate screams "I'll only be able to go as far as the suits will allow, which won't be very far".

And let's not forget about the Hollywood angle. Writers (or shows) who skip off to Canada are not well regarded when they decide to come back, unless they were real good.

That's what the big deal is. New writers are what's best for SG. Besides, what if they did get these huge writers from Hollywood and they brought their huge egos with them. Would that really be better? SG needs new blood like a crackhead needs a hit.

I would like to see a girl on the writing team.
One of the things wrong with SGA is that they did not know what to do with the female charters.

That's an understatement. :lol: Samantha Carter is, IMO, one of the weakest portrayals of a "woman in charge" I've ever seen. It's as if she was written as the most non-threatening, buddy-buddy, "soldier girl" they could come up with. Even actual teens, like Claire from Heroes, manage to come off with a more genuine femininity and "grit" than Sam.

Could you imagine her facing off with Laura Roslin? She'd get trounced. And don't even get me started on Vala "all our ultimate juvenile fantasies realized" Mal Doran.

I honestly think that some people who produce sci-fi series really do believe that their target audience (primarily young males) is afraid of "real women", so they come up with these caricatures. Maybe they're right, judging from some of the stuff I've read on this board over the years.

But I'm not one of them and I know I'm not alone. A woman writer is not absolutely necessary to get an honest portrayal of a female character (anymore than a black writer is to write black characters, and so on), but it sure helps a lot. But remember, "girl" writers can write some awesomely terrible female characters themselves.
 
What reputation is that? Atlantis and SG1 both got good ratinigs on Sci-Fi and lastest a combined 15 years and Atlantis just one the People's Choice Award, SG1's 200 was nominated for a Hugo. And they've had woman writers in the past nobody notices who writes the eps. anyway so I don't see what the big deal is in the first place.

And that there is the only thing of relevance in that post. You've got to have context. Saying Stargate gets good ratings on Sci-Fi is like saying "I got all A's in special ed". As for the oft lauded PCA thing, you've got to remember that while, yes, the SG fandom was clearly very active, they only make up an infinitesimally small percentage of the overall viewing audience. Same thing with the Hugo. Yes they were nominated, but it's not exactly a massive pool to draw from. There are only so many genre shows.

I'm not trying to poop on SG. If I didn't enjoy it (at some point, anyway) I wouldn't be posting this. But in the real-world, a show like SG, from a writers perspective, has all the appeal of a brick wall. A writer can spot a show like that or, say, Enterprise from several light years away. When certain names keep popping up as credits for bad episodes, that gets noticed too.

You're looking at this from the perspective of a fan. But a professional writer has to look at it from the perspective of a person looking for a sweet gig, where, if they have any creative integrity (too many don't) and have a good reputation in the biz, they'll have to think "self-preservation". Stargate screams "I'll only be able to go as far as the suits will allow, which won't be very far".

And let's not forget about the Hollywood angle. Writers (or shows) who skip off to Canada are not well regarded when they decide to come back, unless they were real good.

That's what the big deal is. New writers are what's best for SG. Besides, what if they did get these huge writers from Hollywood and they brought their huge egos with them. Would that really be better? SG needs new blood like a crackhead needs a hit.

I would like to see a girl on the writing team.
One of the things wrong with SGA is that they did not know what to do with the female charters.

That's an understatement. :lol: Samantha Carter is, IMO, one of the weakest portrayals of a "woman in charge" I've ever seen. It's as if she was written as the most non-threatening, buddy-buddy, "soldier girl" they could come up with. Even actual teens, like Claire from Heroes, manage to come off with a more genuine femininity and "grit" than Sam.

Could you imagine her facing off with Laura Roslin? She'd get trounced. And don't even get me started on Vala "all our ultimate juvenile fantasies realized" Mal Doran.

I honestly think that some people who produce sci-fi series really do believe that their target audience (primarily young males) is afraid of "real women", so they come up with these caricatures. Maybe they're right, judging from some of the stuff I've read on this board over the years.

But I'm not one of them and I know I'm not alone. A woman writer is not absolutely necessary to get an honest portrayal of a female character (anymore than a black writer is to write black characters, and so on), but it sure helps a lot. But remember, "girl" writers can write some awesomely terrible female characters themselves.

Awesome post. :techman:

Where do I send the cookies?
 
And that there is the only thing of relevance in that post. You've got to have context. Saying Stargate gets good ratings on Sci-Fi is like saying "I got all A's in special ed". As for the oft lauded PCA thing, you've got to remember that while, yes, the SG fandom was clearly very active, they only make up an infinitesimally small percentage of the overall viewing audience. Same thing with the Hugo. Yes they were nominated, but it's not exactly a massive pool to draw from. There are only so many genre shows.

I'm not trying to poop on SG. If I didn't enjoy it (at some point, anyway) I wouldn't be posting this. But in the real-world, a show like SG, from a writers perspective, has all the appeal of a brick wall. A writer can spot a show like that or, say, Enterprise from several light years away. When certain names keep popping up as credits for bad episodes, that gets noticed too.

You're looking at this from the perspective of a fan. But a professional writer has to look at it from the perspective of a person looking for a sweet gig, where, if they have any creative integrity (too many don't) and have a good reputation in the biz, they'll have to think "self-preservation". Stargate screams "I'll only be able to go as far as the suits will allow, which won't be very far".

And let's not forget about the Hollywood angle. Writers (or shows) who skip off to Canada are not well regarded when they decide to come back, unless they were real good.

That's what the big deal is. New writers are what's best for SG. Besides, what if they did get these huge writers from Hollywood and they brought their huge egos with them. Would that really be better? SG needs new blood like a crackhead needs a hit.

So you want new writers but you admit that Hollywood writers shouldn't go to Canada to write since it might hurt their careers, so where are they going to get new writers? And big name writers have joined the more retrictive Star Trek shows and made elittle difference if anything the writers on the Stargate shows have had alot of freedom, that's one reason why they stay on the shows for as long as some of them did.
 
Ira Steven Behr (DS9, The 4400), Elizabeth Sarnoff (Deadwood, Lost), Toni Graphia (BSG, Carnivale, T:SCC), William Schmidt (Carnivale), Glen Morgan & James Wong (X-Files, MillenniuM), Holly Henderson & Don Whitehead (Smallville), Warren Ellis (Justice League Unlimited), Michael Taylor (DS9, BSG), Bradley Thompson & David Wheddle (DS9, BSG), Sera Gamble (Supernatural), Scott Buck (Six Feet Under), Ben Edlund (Supernatural, The Tick, Firefly), Jeremy Carver & Emily McLaughlin (Supernatural), and Ian B. Goldberg (T:SCC).
 
Ira Steven Behr (DS9, The 4400), Elizabeth Sarnoff (Deadwood, Lost), Toni Graphia (BSG, Carnivale, T:SCC), William Schmidt (Carnivale), Glen Morgan & James Wong (X-Files, MillenniuM), Holly Henderson & Don Whitehead (Smallville), Warren Ellis (Justice League Unlimited), Michael Taylor (DS9, BSG), Bradley Thompson & David Wheddle (DS9, BSG), Sera Gamble (Supernatural), Scott Buck (Six Feet Under), Ben Edlund (Supernatural, The Tick, Firefly), Jeremy Carver & Emily McLaughlin (Supernatural), and Ian B. Goldberg (T:SCC).

Those are some great choices.

Also, fire Mallozi and Mullie. Of all the writers they are the ones who are most clearly phoning it in.
 
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