SG-U – Trial and Error - (2x06) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

[PsychoPere]

I suppose in this case I was just willing to wait it out to see if they were the stereotypical, and thus boring, "visions" that we all expected, or if it was more along the lines of hallucinations caused by Young's collapsing mental state. I would've definitely gone for the latter, though I thought the Destiny revelation was interesting enough to be the real cause.

 

[bullethead]

- When was Eli ever trying to dial within a star?

That was their attempt to get home in Earth. The funny thing is that I never thought the problem was Eli's equations, but the fact that Destiny's power conduits are falling apart like the rest of the ship.

- Wray and Rush asking Scott to command. Finally, someone makes some sense.

I kind of like that scene, especially the part when Scott asked, "Why doesn't one of you do it?" and Rush and Wray basically reply "We did, and we sucked at it." It seemed that Rush and Wray sincerely wanted Scott to lead them.

That one made no sense to me, because they would have succeeded had the writers not decided that the airlocks were the one thing other than life support that Rush didn't control and that Scott and Greer could open the door separating a breached sectioned of the ship from the inside.

 

[Mr Awe]

6. Ugh. Last week they had to put in imaginary interpersonal interactions to try to spice things up. This week they had to put in imaginary action to try to spice things up. That didn't work either. If the aliens had really been attacking and they had to find a way out of the trap, it would've been interesting. But, they weren't and they didn't. I don't care for the Young character and this episode was supposed to boost him up, I think. But, that didn't work.

The only thing of note is that the ship is aware of them and can interact with them insides their head. So, does this explain Rush's and TJ's halucinations?

Mr Awe

 

[Brent]

^ It most certainly explain Rush's

TJ's is debatable, it could have been the ship, or it could really have been the aliens who created that planet

 

[Mr Awe]

^ There are similarities. The hallucinations seem to have a psychological goal in mind. With TJ, it kept her from going out of commission over the loss of her baby.

We don't know for sure but it's a good theory.

Mr Awe

 

[bullethead]

6. Ugh. Last week they had to put in imaginary interpersonal interactions to try to spice things up. This week they had to put in imaginary action to try to spice things up. That didn't work either. If the aliens had really been attacking and they had to find a way out of the trap, it would've been interesting. But, they weren't and they didn't. I don't care for the Young character and this episode was supposed to boost him up, I think. But, that didn't work.

The only thing of note is that the ship is aware of them and can interact with them insides their head. So, does this explain Rush's and TJ's halucinations?

Mr Awe

I think Franklin is certainly the ship's doing, but I'm not so sure about Rush's wife. I think that's some sort of psychological thing caused by all the crap that's happened to him, especially sitting in the chair and being tortured by Kiva.

As for TJ's hallucination, did they drop out of FTL before she saw the nebula in there? If so, then it's definitely the ship. If not, it still might be the ship using info from a seed ship's sensors or something, or it might have been aliens.

 

[Listener4]

Ok. Not great. I think if this show went on long enough it could turn around.

But then it also could end up like BSG which just got worse and worse the longer it went on.

 

[The Wormhole]

Not really a particularly great episode but after the steaming pile of shit we were served last week, I'll gladly take anything. Also, last week's episode taught me something very important: I'm sick of Scott and Chloe. Those two characters were never particularly interesting to begin with and now I actually find it painful to get through their scenes.

The fact the Sombreroid attack was Young's dream was obvious to me the second time they went through the attack scenario. Also, that's the second time the Sombreroids have been used in hallucinatory circumstances. Getting a bit tiresome. The attacks actually being a Destiny computer simulation caught me off guard. Though I don't like the idea of Destiny tapped into its commander's emotional state. That's just a bad idea.

Also, while I'm all for action being pumped into this show, this is one episode which I feel would have been better off if they kept it a character piece and left the Sombreroid attacks out of it. Young finally losing it and becoming a depressed drunk who doesn't care could have made for a very compelling story. Young seems to be the kind of character who could have been interesting if they could just figure out a way to properly write him. A once shining officer with a promising career now worn out by the job and the negative impact its had on his life is actually a good idea. Unfortunately they hurt the character by having him make really stupid mistakes (like how he handled the Lucian Alliance's arrival) that make it hard to believe he's remotely capable. Mind you the resolution to this was a but too quick. Scott get all righteous and reminds Young of his responsibilities and Young immediately shaves his stubble and gets his groove back? Not buying it. Young did look badass with that stubble, though.

Meanwhile, it was nice to see a friendlier side of Greer and not have him acting like a psycho. Hopefully, they continue this positive direction of the character's development.

Eli's relationship with the Lucian Alliance redhead (who is finally named Ginn) was a bit obvious, though primarily because I read the spoilers about that.

And finally, please shut up about the Alien Gods. I hated that episode last year and want to forget about it.

 

[Yoda]

It was an ok epsiode but really not much happened.

So now everyone assumes Young is competent even though he apparently isn't? Whoopety shit! Also it's not like he did anything obviously incompetent during the simulations... so what's the ship's problem?

Also, come on... really... going to Lt. Scott to lead? I thought he was going to be quarantined with Chloe on account of getting alien blood goop in his system anyway? I must've missed something there.

Eli and the redhead... well, I guess it's nice that they decided to stop torturing the fan base of geeks who have probably all lived through their own Eli/Chloe/Scott scenarios, but it's not a particularly interesting story to me.

 

[The Wormhole]

Also, come on... really... going to Lt. Scott to lead? I thought he was going to be quarantined with Chloe on account of getting alien blood goop in his system anyway? I must've missed something there.

At the beginning of the episode TJ said that since Scott wasn't showing signs of transformation like Chloe that there was no need to keep him in quarantine. The oh so quick resolution of that makes last week's episode even more pointless. Not that I'm complaining. I'll gladly do what it takes to forget last week's episode.

 

[Star Wolf]

It was an ok epsiode but really not much happened.

So now everyone assumes Young is competent even though he apparently isn't? Whoopety shit! Also it's not like he did anything obviously incompetent during the simulations... so what's the ship's problem?

The ship picked up "the historical records" of Kirk's five year mission and want's a captain that can't lose.

"NEVER GIVE UP...NEVER SURRENDER!"

 

[David cgc]

It seemed to be a Kobayashi Maru thing, but from a reverse perspective. Rather than trying to find out how Young would lose, the ship was finding new ways for the aliens to win. I do wonder what the point of it was, though. Maybe Destiny was already tying into Young, and designed the scenario based on his concerns on Chloe so he'd be able to prepare himself.

Of course, the ship couldn't do the one thing that would actually happen, but Young had no way of knowing about— Rush would just slip off to the bridge and fire up the FTL, clock be damned.

 

[bullethead]

Of course, the ship couldn't do the one thing that would actually happen, but Young had no way of knowing about— Rush would just slip off to the bridge and fire up the FTL, clock be damned.

Well, I guess the ship can't take everything into account, like what's the limit to Rush keeping the bridge a secret.

 

[David cgc]

Or it was specifically basing the scenario around Young's responses, so it took that option off the table since he wouldn't have known about it, the same we he couldn't know when or whether the Sombreoids' bad attitude would cause them to destroy the ship rather than capture it, or if they had an infinite supply of reinforcements.

 

[Kpnuts]

Finally a great SGU episode

Shame the actor who plays Dr Franklin can't act to save his life. His delivery is terrible

 

[6079SmithW]

Sorry for the bump but I just saw this and thought it was great!

-Loved the ship "testing" Young to evaluate his competency for command. Nice battles too.

-Very interesting to see Young's breakdown and giving up as well as Scott calling him out on it.

-Best moment for me was Young finally stepping up to the plate and Destiny rewarding him by getting back on track. Of course the fact that it was just Rush regaining control kind of diminished it but its still a bit coincidental that Rush happened to jump the ship just when Young happened to get his balls back.

-Loved all the Eli/Ginn/Greer stuff. Nice to see Greer being more humorous with his kind of *wink wink* *nudge nudge* interactions with Eli.

A great episode and one that I truly loved. Too bad SyFy will probably cancel this and not give us a third season.