SG-U – Hope - (2x14) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

[Trajet]

I thought this was a great episode from the perspective of character development. Sure, the way it was framed was more than a little hokey, but it was nice to get glimpses of the characters beyond the stereotypes they're so obviously based on.

Who knew Greer could be that selfless and caring? That was the real surprise of this episode. His character has grown beyond the "angry marine" stereotype this season, first in last week's episode when he reached a rapprochment of sorts with Camille Wray, and again this week when he willingly risked his own life to save the life of someone else, even going beyond to show some real compassion to Volker when he took him for a stroll to Destiny's "back yard". I think he might end up paying a heavy price for his selfless act.

The other storyline with Ginn, Amanda and Chloe wasn't quite as interesting, but it was still a long way from being sloppily written or boring. The scenes with Eli/Ginn and Rush/Amanda at the end were actually quite touching, and again, some selfless, caring actions from Chloe, despite Mr. Action Man trying to get in the way every five minutes. I still think Matthew Scott is by far one of the least interesting characters the show has to offer.

It's a shame the show's been canned when its finally begun to really find its voice and set itself apart from its more facile, action/adventure oriented predecessors.

 

[SG-17]

Still a little confused of how Amanda and Ginn's concious survived, I get that Chloe was asleep and they cam in via the stones that way but where were they help before that? some type of stone subspace?

So now we have 3 people living in the computer if you include Franklin. There will be more people in there soon than onbaord. LOL Makes you wonder who else could be 'living' in Destiny's computer? Maybe some Ancients who knew there were going to die tousands of years ago transferred the conciousness in there.. If the show were not cancelled I could see that as an episode now.

I think that Destiny took what it could gather of Gloria's memories and personality from Rush's memory and reconstructed her (as best it could) and stored it in the computer too.

Also I think that the Old Rush uploaded himself into the Old Destiny before it was destroyed and transferred himself to The Destiny.

 

[broberfett]

So... I'm just a few minutes into this... but did anyone else think about Eli sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body? Win/Win!

Eli totally missed out on a unique opportunity. Later on they could have had the "Who's the daddy?" pregnancy episode.

 

[JarodRussell]

So... I'm just a few minutes into this... but did anyone else think about Eli sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body? Win/Win!

Would that count as a threesome?

 

[broberfett]

So... I'm just a few minutes into this... but did anyone else think about Eli sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body? Win/Win!

Would that count as a threesome?

Two chicks at the same time!

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I thought that this episode has some wonderful character moments, but TJ doing a organ transplant was a case of the show jumping the shark.

I dunno, with Dr Perry coming in at the last minute with the whole ancient database in her head, it made her transplant feat somewhat palatable. What with Greer's infected incision though, she may not be clear of that just yet.

I didn't realize they had a whole medical database at their disposal, better start cracking the books, TJ!

 

[Vendikarr]

So... I'm just a few minutes into this... but did anyone else think about Eli sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body? Win/Win!

Would that count as a threesome?

Two chicks at the same time!

Amanda was in there too... three at once.. could have been quite the score for Eli.

 

[broberfett]

Numa Numa guy
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk[/yt]

 

[BlobVanDam]

So... I'm just a few minutes into this... but did anyone else think about Eli sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body? Win/Win!

First thought to cross my mind too! It was like super nerd fantasy for Eli.

I thought that was a surprisingly good episode. The comedy duo of the two scientists brought back some comedy to the series, and the characters weren't bickering this week. The episode relied a lot on characters, and didn't fall flat for doing so. I thought both storylines had an element on unbelievability to them (relatively speaking of course), but the episode was good enough to make up for that.

 

[watermelony2k]

Out of all the "quiet episodes" we've had so far, this is the one I've enjoyed the most. The characters are far more likable when they're caring and kidding around with each other than when they're not.

Also, Ginn and Amanda have good chemistry with their lead counterparts.

 

[AJ86]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei64bxsEIlM[/yt]

 

[The Wormhole]

I'll admit some initial skepticism when I first heard the details on this episode, primarily because when I heard the bit about Chloe anf Ginn I thought "uggh, more stone stupidity." Okay, the whole thing about dead people still being stored within the stones is a bit wobbly. Don't get me wrong, I have no actual complaints about how it played out, but the concept itself seems a bit contrived.

The Volker storyline is where this episode shines. Mind you, I would have preferred it if they did a story about Brody, Volker and Park that didn't involve one of them in deadly peril, but this was a decent character piece for them. In fact, after watching this episode, I kind of think the show might have been better if they mad made Rush, Volker, Brody, and Park the main characters with the military characters in recurring support roles.

Although already mentioned plenty of times in this thread, the Numa Numa bit was hilarious. Though I got to wonder, how many Ipod dockstations did they bring with them when they left Icarus, or did Rush simply loan his?

The episode also did some excellent work with Greer, showing him as hardlined and stern without making him psycho. I particularly like the scene where TJ is telling him and Chief Laird they're compatible for a transplant. Cheif Laird starts piling questions about how safe the procedure is, what risks it entails, and so on until Greer cuts him off and volunteers himself. Also, we see another example of his weird sense of fun, when he lets out a scream during the exam.

A surprisingly decent episode of SGU, though sadly it's too little, too late.

 

[Vendikarr]

Though I got to wonder, how many Ipod dockstations did they bring with them when they left Icarus, or did Rush simply loan his?

Someone probably grab the one in Rush's quarters in Twin Destinies. Yea it's not essential equipment, but why let it go to waste.

 

[Danny99]

- Why do they insist on using this opening montage again and again?
- Brody and Volker – I’m going to miss these guys.
- I would kill for a locked off camera shot.
- The most painful element was Young and the council of boyfriends. Scott loses here because we don’t like Chloe.
- I’ve lost almost all respect for Scott. He had the chance to be the next Mitchell or Sheppard. But then Chloe showed up.
- Nothing like a good erectile dysfunction joke.
- Got to love Greer. I’ve known this guy for a year and I’m going to give him a kidney. Awesome.
- This crew is becoming a family now and it’s sad we won’t see it continue.
- I can at least see Eli being a whiny baby in this situation, but Scott’s whole “you got to do fix Chloe so we can be together” bit is painful to watch.
- The music bit in the infirmary was awesome.
- Good to see Becker back too, where has he been hiding?
- Episode gets a lower score for me cause it focuses on TJ, a horrid character and the whole love triangle times two.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I was very much looking forward to this episode. I love episodes featuring the stones. It really is a great concept. Anyway, the weird nature of this week's swap held my attention and got me thinking of all sorts of things from what the heck was going on, to ideas about self and consciousness, to whether or not they qualified as ghosts, to whether or not these stone swaps would have anything to do with the show's developing arc about the intelligence hidden within the universe. What if they went the "spiritual" route and found a way to resurrect the dead by channelling their souls into living bodies, or something to that effect? There seemed to be a lot of interesting possibilities here. In the end though, I was a little disappointed at the mundane explanations we got, along with the quick technical solution that resulted in the two ladies being stored in the ship's computer. Still, it's nice to have them back. I was wondering why this episode was called "Hope", then the scene with Rush reassuring Perry that he would find her a body clued me in. His exuberance over the prospect of having her back someday came through quite well. That was hope right there.

What else...

- I liked the twist of having us think the 2001 theme was part of the soundtrack. I've seen that trick done before and better in the Armand Asante spoof Fatal Instinct where it was actually funny, but I still liked seeing it here.

- I don't know what "Numa Numa" is, but that scene added a nice bit of levity and upbeat-ness to the show.

- I thought it was easier to get to the kidney by cutting into the back.

Imagine Lt. James is injured and is brain dead. Rush and Eli fight over which of their girlfriends gets the body.

So... I'm just a few minutes into this... but did anyone else think about Eli sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body? Win/Win!

Who didn't?

I can imagine Eli going through with it only to have Chloe come back and start freaking out, unlike Telford, who liked it.

I also thought of Rush kissing Perry in Chloe's body.

Okay, enough smilies for now.

 

[Morpheus 02]

i haven't SG-U intensely...but it seemed to me that there's a part of Greer that almost seems suicidal...why he's willing to jump right in with the kidney donation -- and NOT getting painmedicine, at least for the painful test.

At the same time, there's a part that makes him a good friend -- from the garden scene (showing attention to detail, and enjoying someone else's pleasure) and the fake scream...definitely feels like somehting his character would do.

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ I liked the fake-out scream. I laughed dout loud at that. And yeah, I got that suicidal feeling from him too.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I'm reading up on Numa Numa and apparently it was an internet phenomenon. Somehow it went right by me. I've never heard of it.

 

[Starbreaker]

Just had a brief chat with Lou Diamond Phillips on Twitter... he says he is heavily featured in next week's episode. He's easily my favorite character on the show.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Guess sending Telford back to Earth wasn't intended as an excuse for another Lou Diamond Phillips absence afterall. He's in every episode now.