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SG-U – Darkness (1x04) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Grade Darkness

  • 9 Chevrons – Out of this Universe (A+)

    Votes: 11 11.3%
  • 8 Chevrons – Beyond the known Galaxies

    Votes: 23 23.7%
  • 7 Chevrons – In the Milky Way Galaxy

    Votes: 30 30.9%
  • 6 Chevrons – Within our Solar System

    Votes: 19 19.6%
  • 5 Chevrons – Haven’t got past Earth (Average)

    Votes: 10 10.3%
  • 4 Chevrons – No flying machines at all

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • 3 Chevrons – Pre-Industrial

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2 Chevrons – Dark Ages

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • 1 Chevron – Throwing rocks and stones here

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Cannot Establish Lock – Doesn’t even exist (F)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    97

Brent

Admiral
Admiral
I’m not going to be here tonight, so I’m putting up this grading thread early. Let’s see how SGU’s 4th episode of the season goes.
 
Boring!

I really hate the Earth BS, they don't need that for every episodes.
The characters are horrible besides Eli.
The CGI is such a copycat version of BSG it makes me laugh.

I wonder if the ship will run into the star next week! Such drama!!!

I was being nice and gave it a 5, now I'm thinking about it maybe a 4 would be a better fit.
 
I was thinking of going with 7 chevrons, but feeling generous, I decided to go with 8. I'm enjoying this show quite a bit and I'm getting into the characters a little more. I especially liked the end of this episode with how well it portrayed the intensity and severity of their harrowing journey though space. As for the rest, I didn't find any of it boring. I just enjoyed the fact that they were taking their time, focussing on some character moments and establishing a certain mood. And speaking of those character moments, I liked the Eli/Chloe stuff the most. I suppose I could also add that Rush came off as a bit over the top but I wasn't bothered by it.

Another thing I want to mention is the ship's interior design. As I was watching, I thought that the shower room along with the tables and benches in the mess hall looked a bit Farscap-ish, but now I'm thinking that they more closely resembled the Necromongers' architecture from The Chronicles of Riddick. I wonder if there's a connection, like maybe the same designer or props being reused.
 
I give it 8 chevrons. I liked the numerous character moments and the SFX were spectacular. Next week looks like the more action-oriented episode.
 
5 Chevrons--Nobody has bothered to get technical help via the body stones. Instead, the writers continue to use the stones to annoy us with angry/sad relatives. Meanwhile, the ship is the only entity on this show with much resembling common sense.
 
As for the rest, I didn't find any of it boring. I just enjoyed the fact that they were taking their time, focussing on some character moments and establishing a certain mood.

See that leads me back to the point that none of these characters are likable besides Eli. If the characters were better I would feel different about this episode. Plus the whole episode lead up to the ship about to go into the star, it clearly isn't going to happen, so it makes this episode useless filler, and truly only the second episode.
 
^ I like Rush. Whatever he is, at least he's a fascinating character.

As for being filler, like I said, I just see it as them establishing a mood, specifically, what it's like to be out there in the unforgiving coldness of space. Looks like we're gong to get another dose of that next week. of course they'll get out of the situation, but I'm hoping that we'll come away with more of that feeling of danger and what they're up against.
 
How do they control the stones? I haven't seen any indication that they can control the device beyond putting stones down and waiting for something to happen. Is there some sort of will power involved? I also don't like how the connection can be broken at any time. I thought that both of them had to go back to the stones to transfer back.

And back to the Eli/Chloe stuff... As much as I liked their interactions, part of it didn't ring true. Eli was trying to get her to go with him to observe the gas giant and the fact that her father just died didn't come up as a reason for her apathy.
 
How do they control the stones? I haven't seen any indication that they can control the device beyond putting stones down and waiting for something to happen. Is there some sort of will power involved? I also don't like how the connection can be broken at any time. I thought that both of them had to go back to the stones to transfer back.

They put the stone on some sort of glowing device (possibly an SG-equivalent of what Vala and Daniel used). My guess is that they program the device to operate for a certain length of time.

And back to the Eli/Chloe stuff... As much as I liked their interactions, part of it didn't ring true. Eli was trying to get her to go with him to observe the gas giant and the fact that her father just died didn't come up as a reason for her apathy.
Yeah, she seems way too well adjusted.
 
This is a really good show that is taking it's time with out being dull and plodding. This kind of character driven show is really good stuff, for me any way. So what I liked in this episode...

*The crew (loose term) recording messages for back home. I've seen this done quite a bit in sci-fi and this is the only one that feels real. I guess it helps that these characters are in a dire situtation to begin with.

*Col. Young talking to his wife (is she?) felt really sincere and not melodramatic. I liked Col. Young from the beginning because he projects leadership but doesn't throw his weight around.

*Dr. Rush's nervous breakdown not being the result of some disese or Ancient virus but a simple cafine withdrawal. That may seem like a small thing but it's such a mundane thing in the midst of this terrible situation. It's not something I've seen done a lot, very cool.

*The crew gathering to watch the ship pass through the gas giant. I think it's interesting to see these strangers pull together despite their situation.

*Last but not least seeing Peter DeLuise in more than just a quick cameo, using his own name no less. I thought it was a little odd but I'm glad he's still working on Stargate.

So all in all, another enjoyable outing, I just hope the show keeps this pace and style of story telling. Oh and finally, to those who keep comparing it to BSG, please stop. You know full well well that most sci-fi has been done allready so similarities are bound to crop up. Obviosly SGU coming in on after BSG so soon the comparisons were inevitable. There may be similarities but SGU is it's own show and I can tell the difference.

Besides, BSG was a great show and like in writing, if you are going to steal, steal from the best.
 
Oh and finally, to those who keep comparing it to BSG, please stop. You know full well well that most sci-fi has been done allready so similarities are bound to crop up. Obviosly SGU coming in on after BSG so soon the comparisons were inevitable. There may be similarities but SGU is it's own show and I can tell the difference.
I don't think that BSG has been done already. I think its style is unique for televised science fiction because I've never seen anything like it. It also seems pretty clear that Syfy is trying to bring that same style to SGU so I think the comparisons are fair.
 
This is my favorite episode so far. Finally there was some reasonable character development beyond Eli and Rush. I had my doubts, but I think this show is going to turn out just fine.
 
I like this show so far. :techman:
7 Chevrons

I kind of hope once the Destiny gets up and running we find out it has a hot female computer avatar that's been watching out for her new crew.
 
They did this "messages to home bit" on Atlantis and it was just as... uneventful. Also, the "let's tell everyone at home" thing feels kind of silly given the whole "secrecy" thing... both seem to be meant to try to get people to know the characters, so I suppose I can excuse them. It's going to be painful watching each character "go home" though, mostly because it'll be the same thing.

"I can't believe it!"
"It's true!"
"I hope you come back!"
"Me too!"
"Hugs and kisses!"

It's funny though, because in many ways this is sort of what I thought BSG would be about for a while - actually surviving on limited resources without the distraction of sexy robots. Clearly they can't keep doing this for too long and some game changing thing will happen, but I at least appreciate that they're at least trying.
 
They got rid of the stupid blurrycam and acted more like a professional operation. There's still some amateur shaking that's been overused, but I can deal with that.
 
That gas giant isn't the only thing in that solar system big enough to suck in comets... there's also that one chick's boobs :wtf:

I voted 6... which is really a 5/10 or uhhh, no wait, I voted 5 which is really 6/10. Yeah. That's it. Seriously, can we just add a 10th "out of this reality" rating and lop off the bottom rating or something? This isn't C++ and we don't count from 0!

Anyway, as I implied, it was... ok... nothing spectacular. Rush going super nuts was a bit much... but I do like his genuine contempt of everyone. Channing Tatum (Scott is it?) is rapidly becoming my least favorite character on the show. Shut up with the Jesus already. :rolleyes:

The Eli and Chloe stuff was a little too cutesy.

Young and his woman was all manners of pointless. I especially like how she ran back out to tell him to stay away, which was what he was already up to. Kind of cruel to make me think that this stupid scene was coming to a close only to have her run out to the car!

I'm pretty curious as to why Telford is such a dittohead (as in he has a religious devotion to Rush ;)), and why he has it in for Young. I hope that gets expanded on in an interesting way.

Some of the "I'm going to die" videos were ok, a lot of them were lame. It's a device that seems just a little too familiar in the Stargate universe.

And yeah, they have a ship full of stupid people, and a Pentagon full of smart people who solve galactic catastrophes as a matter of course, and a potato sack full of body swap devices. The body swap plot devices so far are just straining credibility.

I think I'll be able to get some enjoyment out of this series, but it'll take some alcohol for me to ignore its shortcomings.
 
They got rid of the stupid blurrycam and acted more like a professional operation. There's still some amateur shaking that's been overused, but I can deal with that.
When Young was talking to his wife on the sidewalk, I noticed that the camera zoom-out was a bit jerky.
 
That gas giant isn't the only thing in that solar system big enough to suck in comets... there's also that one chick's boobs :wtf:

:lol:

Said my roommate upon her entrance: this is the best day ever!

I can't rate this episode, as I have no idea where so-bad-its-good fits on the scale. Boring story, lame dialogue, faux-seriousness, forced conflict, stultifying "banter" and Robert Carlyle being struck down by Large Ham disease--it's horrible, and neither of us can wait for next week. :lol: We spent most of those "character building" video recordings speculating on the variety of ways the kinos might try to commit suicide to escape that wretched dialogue.
 
I'm throwing rocks & stones at it. Wow, it was all around lousy for reasons mentioned above and then some. The 3 part premier was different but if this episode is more in keeping with their direction, they'll lose me fast.

Generally I didn't watch the prior Stargate series, but saw a couple SG:1 in syndication. I have the film on DVD though.

I hated Moore's program and am not (yet) feeling the comparisons many are making.
 
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