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SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS!)

Grade Enemy At The Gate

  • 3 ZPMs

    Votes: 32 32.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 43 43.9%
  • Average

    Votes: 15 15.3%
  • Bad

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • Poor

    Votes: 3 3.1%
  • Gate Malfunction - Utter Annihilation

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    98
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Just before the Wraith ship explodes Mckay mentions and is then seen to dial the Alpha site. The thing is there using a Pegasus DHD to dial a Milky Way gate. How can they do this when the symbols are different on each DHD or do the symbols share some sort of similarity?
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Pretty good finale to the series, I was dreading that it would be much worse.The fact that they crammed an entire series finale into 42 minutes though is completely unforgivable. Particular after the completely useless, pointless, and boring 'Vegas'. Enemy at the Gate as a feature length two parter, would have been BRILLIANT. A bit more padding, less rushing around, some nice character moments etc... - but no, Mallozi and co thought watching Sheppard play poker was more important :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Anyway, anti-Vegas rant over.

Action-packed, epic, nice graphics, good drama. What I also liked was that they gave everyone something to do, even Kavanagh. Keller's 20 second scene however pretty much symbolised her character on SGA: a blubbering, wussy little girl.

The General Hammond was an excellent touch.

Ronan being resurrected was expected from the ball-less writers. Having said that I'm glad he didn't stay dead though; especially after the glorious death of err... being stabbed by a Wraith. Not quite fitting.

Why couldn't they just toss a few naquadah bombs through the Stargate onto the ship? Problem solved in about 5 seconds. HUGE plot hole.

The "wormhole drive" :rolleyes::eek::wtf::guffaw: That made me laugh, I couldn't quite believe the writers were that stupid. All been said before, possibly the worst, most obvious and convenient deus ex machina EVER. Truly cringeworthy, and could have been avoided by, oh I don't know... Atlantis, NOT coming out of hyperspace half way through?? It's not like it was an insurmoutable plot hole! Terrible.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the schematic showed Atlantis landing in the middle of the Pacific... then all of a sudden they were a few miles from SF... :confused: - wouldn't the tidal wave from the landing have been pretty big?

But on the whole I thought it was a fun ride. The space battles were great, as was the Dart/302 dogfight. The storyline should have been saved for the SGA movie really, but never mind. I'm just so pissed off they wasted the penultimate ep on 'Vegas' urgh. What a waste.

Very good.

To me, the big problem was the faceless enemy, Earth is menaced by Wraith we haven't seen before.

That's one of the major problems on SGA, apart from Todd, the Wraith have always been a faceless enemy. Which meant endless gunfights with the same wraith guards, escaping from un-named hive ships every season, and very little personality. That combined with the generic villages on every planet, made for very dull story arcs.

Golden Gate bridge...STAR TREK IV REFERENCE. Bad idea to reference a better franchise.

You're kidding, right? That has to be a joke.

Why does that have to be a joke? Star Trek is a superior franchise to Stargate. In every way.

I have a feeling they didn't have a lot of control at the time over where they were going to land the city. The situation seemed rather rushed.

might not have had much choice, depending on how much power was left to fly the city

That's not the point. The writers should have made Atlantis crash land in the Atlantic ocean, not the pacific.

I gave it a Good. Not bad, but not great.

As they're making they're escape out of the hive, I really wanted to see one of the masked Wraith soldiers start attacking the other soldiers, buying the team some time, and then after Shep goes through the gate, the soldier rips off his mask revealing Super Ford. He realizes that they're back and Earth, and the humans are about to win the battle. He says "I finally get to see my Grandma again!" and heads toward the gate, to follow his friends back home, only to have the gate suddenly shut down. Pan back to show the exterior shot of the hive blowing up... Thus finally resolving the Ford storyline.

Wow, that would have been... terrible! Surely you're joking?? :lol:

First Stargate: Universe promo I've seen, hrmmm, red glowing gate? AWESOME, IMO it SHOULD be red, just like the Milky Way gates.

That's just the standard stargate model their SFX department has, I doubt it has any bearing on the colour of the SGU stargate. It'll probably be green for all we know.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Just before the Wraith ship explodes Mckay mentions and is then seen to dial the Alpha site. The thing is there using a Pegasus DHD to dial a Milky Way gate. How can they do this when the symbols are different on each DHD or do the symbols share some sort of similarity?

Well, the Pegasus gates are digital, so they're probably "supposed to" show the Milky Way glyphs after McKay recalibrated the DHD to work on the Milky Way network. It's just been so long since they cared about gateporn (our last unique point of origin symbol was, what, season 3 of SG-1?) that they didn't bother changing the transparencies on the DHD prop (and doing some sort of CGI morph effect to add two buttons) or CGIing digital versions of the Milky Way glyphs on the wraith's gate.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Just before the Wraith ship explodes Mckay mentions and is then seen to dial the Alpha site. The thing is there using a Pegasus DHD to dial a Milky Way gate. How can they do this when the symbols are different on each DHD or do the symbols share some sort of similarity?

They pretty much dropped that aspect of gate diailing sometime in the first season of SG1. Apparently, now, ALL gates have the same symbols. Go figure.


Tony
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Just before the Wraith ship explodes Mckay mentions and is then seen to dial the Alpha site. The thing is there using a Pegasus DHD to dial a Milky Way gate. How can they do this when the symbols are different on each DHD or do the symbols share some sort of similarity?

They pretty much dropped that aspect of gate diailing sometime in the first season of SG1. Apparently, now, ALL gates have the same symbols. Go figure.


Tony



Not quite the first season of SG-1, there were different points of origin for a couple more years after that.

And the Pegasus glyphs are all different as well, although they all look so identical I'm amazed at how fast charaters dial sometimes.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Well I just relized one good thing about the destruction of Area 51

The Ark of Truth was stored there so that was taken out so we don't have to worry about anyone having the ability to mass brainwash people.

That's what television is for. :techman:

Well, they could always
pull a 'dug enough out of the rubble for it to be a problem again' trick for anything that was in Area 51 that they wanted to re-use...
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Well I just relized one good thing about the destruction of Area 51

The Ark of Truth was stored there so that was taken out so we don't have to worry about anyone having the ability to mass brainwash people.

That's what television is for. :techman:

Well, they could always
pull a 'dug enough out of the rubble for it to be a problem again' trick for anything that was in Area 51 that they wanted to re-use...
I was always under the impression that Area 51 also had a large underground complex... I would think that they would be smart enough to either
a)keep all the valuables underground or...
b)if it doesn't have an underground complex, store all their valuables in a warehouse other than the warehouse most likely to be taken out in a surgical strike.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

I wounder how they will explane to the public how area 51 got blown to bits.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

^It was only one building and nobody's supposed to know what's in there anyway.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

This episode, though pretty good needed more than 1 hour. I am reminded by the replicator attack series of episodes on Atlantis where Atlantis had to fly to a new planet. They did it right and I thought it was so good because they gave the story arc several episodes to develop.

In this case it felt horribly rushed. So rushed that it detracted from what could have been an epic ending to just an ordinary one. Once they realized they were not coming back they should have made a 2 hour ending or a 2 episode end.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

A bit rushed, but as explained, this was expected, 3 ZPM's from me.
 
Re: SG-A – Enemy At The Gate (5x20) FINALE – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILE

Agreed, it was a bit rush. They could have easily expanded this episode plot into a TV movie, but I am satisifed at the job they did.

It's curious, however, the role the female gate operator played. When the season finale pics appeared, I figured that since she was portrayed standing next to Ronan, she would start playing a more prominent role in the last remaining episodes. But she hasn't really.
 
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