Sexy or Creepy?

[Alidar Jarok]

Fact: 100% of Italians in this thread voted "sexy".

Well, I said the whole thing sounded very "French." Sounded very Italian might have worked as well, but, in my opinion, this was a bit on the subtle side for Italians dealing with Americans.

I forget if I posted this before (not to hijack the thread TSQ), but when I was studying for a month in Siena, one of the girls on the trip went to a bar where she had a conversation with an Italian guy for a couple of hours. The details of exactly what happened then are vague, but, either way, he shows up to her hotel with flowers the next day (he probably saw which hotel she lived at). She was very shocked by this and wanted to know why he did this. She explained the whole story in Italian and ended with "Perché? Perché?" The Professor responded by saying "Perché le ragazze americane sono molto facile." Although I do think there is a cultural thing about seizing the moment that's more at home in Europe than here.

Anyway, this question started as "sexy or too forward." It has been transformed into "sexy vs. criminal assault" and that's probably why TSQ thinks most people are being absurd (sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth). It's a moment that only happens in the movies.

 

[RoJoHen]

I'm going to offer up another option. It wasn't sexy or creepy. It was skanky...but like, a good kind of skanky.

 

[Kelthaz]

I'm going to offer up another option. It wasn't sexy or creepy. It was skanky...but like, a good kind of skanky.

Good answer. I like that.

 

[Capn Flukie]

I think the most important thing here is that I need to learn French.

Okay, not the most important thing.

*sigh*

It's not important at all.

 

[iguana_tonante]

Have to be honest... I'm not really sure what you are getting at, here. My "deep-seated fear of sex..?" Do I have that?? I think you are trying to diagnose me as a prude.

A prude? I dunno. Paranoid? Given your answers, most definitively. I find it quite sad that people are always ready to indulge in violent retribution over perceived "sexual assaults", but are too terrified of reality to enjoy a bit of (somehow bold but ultimately harmless) fun.

If I seem defensive toward those who think the behavior was creepy, it's because a lot of those posts are coming of as extremely condescending and subtly sexist.

That's how I read it as well.

Fact: 100% of Italians in this thread voted "sexy".

Thankfully, much less than 100% of Americans voted "creepy". This gives me faith in their eventual sexual education.

Wow. Tsq, I think the real issue here is that a lot of the people posting in this thread just need to get laid.

Nah, they just need a chance encounter with a suave foreigner.

Look up! In the sky! It's the Iguana-signal!

 

[Kestra]

Wow. Tsq, I think the real issue here is that a lot of the people posting in this thread just need to get laid.

Come on now, that's just insulting.

 

[Amaris]

No, I think they're making my under lining point. People have said those things about Jesus. Did they actually happen? Can't be proven and everything said is just belief in what is essentially fairy tales people have built entire religions around.

No, just please, no. Stop. They're not working. They're not even remotely connected. They make no sense combined in any equation, and you may be committing a felony against the English language.

No... I don't think you understand. The Tooth Fairy is in no way, shape, or form a "dentist." A dentist is a doctor who works on your teeth. A tooth fairy is a make-believe story we tell children in order to help them cope with the pain and drama of losing a primary tooth. It's a fairy tale.

Santa Claus is pretty much the same thing, sure he was inspired by a real-life Saint in some way or another but that Saint has pretty much nothing to do with Santa Claus who is a make-believe person we tell children about in order to... Actually I don't think I know why we do the Santa thing. He's not real is my basic point.

It's amazing how you pretty much detailed my point and you still didn't get it. See, while there is fantasy, much fantasy has a kernel of truth in it, because for some people, such fantasy is a reality. There are people who fall in love at first sight. For you it may be a myth, but for others it is very real, and has actually occurred, trampledamage being just one example. What you've decided is that no matter what others say they've experienced, they're wrong and it didn't happen, and that's just as subjective an idea as any fantasy.

Your effort to compare mythology/fantasy to real life situations where love at first sight has occurred has failed repeatedly, because the two concepts are not related except in your own head.

I mean, do you get what you're saying?

Commenter: "I fell in love with him at first sight"
Trekker: "No, you only thought you did. It was all fantasy! Just like people who think Jesus and the Tooth Fairy exists!"

Get it now? Your comparisons go off on a tangent that doesn't have any relevance to the actual content of the speaker. This is why it doesn't work.
Stop making them.

 

[Trekker4747]

:facepalm:

You're being too damn literal and not just reading between the lines you're actually reading through between the lines into the back of book.

My basic point remains the same: I do not believe "love at first sight" or hell maybe even romantic love exists. People may say it does and tell cute, fun, stories about it from personal experiences. But, of my money, they're just stories. I cannot believe in something I personally have not experienced or at least don't have a logical reason in which to believe in it.

 

[RoJoHen]

Just when I think you can't get any more cynical...

 

[Locutus of Bored]

No offense Trekker, but when you write one of your tomes and start off talking about Santa and the Tooth Fairy, I just kind of tune out after that. There comes a point where the analogies are self-defeating.

 

[{ Emilia }]

But, of my money, they're just stories. I cannot believe in something I personally have not experienced or at least don't have a logical reason in which to believe in it.

I have never experienced space travel yet I'm pretty sure I believe that we did actually send some people into orbit and it happened.

I've also never experienced war but I'm sure it exists.

 

[Amaris]

:facepalm:

You're being too damn literal and not just reading between the lines you're actually reading through between the lines into the back of book.

My basic point remains the same: I do not believe "love at first sight" or hell maybe even romantic love exists. People may say it does and tell cute, fun, stories about it from personal experiences. But, of my money, they're just stories. I cannot believe in something I personally have not experienced or at least don't have a logical reason in which to believe in it.

In other words, "purple doesn't exist because I'm colorblind, so no matter how many people have seen it or how well it's been documented, they're all wrong until I can see it."

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I cannot believe in something I personally have not experienced or at least don't have a logical reason in which to believe in it.

So if it didn't happen to you, it doesn't happen?

Does that mean you didn't believe in brain tumors or seizures until you had your own?

 

[RoJoHen]

No offense Trekker, but when you write one of your tomes and start off talking about Santa and the Tooth Fairy, I just kind of tune out after that. There comes a point where the analogies are self-defeating.

Especially since Santa is totally real.

 

[Trekker4747]

No. "logical reason it exists" were the key words there.

If I were color-blind I would a)know this and b)have the knowledge of how color and light works and know there are more colors than I can see.

I know how technology works and have seen space travel happen so I know these things exist.

I know how medical science works and the documented evidence of medical problems.

I've never experienced "love at first sight" and the only tales of it I've heard are anecdotal from people who claim to be in love. Sorry, there's a too many degrees of bias and doubt there for me to believe in it.

And, yeah, I am cynical. Goes along with the shitty-ass love life I have. The world has made me cynical because it's apparently not built for me to be in love or to be happy.

Maybe if I was a handsome French guy who can had years of experiences of people fawning over him for being good looking and the perception of French people being "romantic" and I can just go up to random women at the street and give them a "last day in New York" story and end up five minutes later with a boob in my hand I'd feel different.

But, nope. I'm an un-attractive, over-weight, American loser who still reads comic books and plays DnD who can barely get any attention at all from the fairer sex. So, yeah, I'm cynical because the universe simply isn't built for people like me to have love.

C'est la vie.

 

[RoJoHen]

For what it's worth, I know a lot of fat ugly people that have managed to find love.

An un-attractive personality is going to make you that much uglier to the people around you.

 

[Thestral]

Nope. Don't buy it. In the real world people don't fall madly, passionately, in love inside of a few minutes to the point of kissing and feeling one another up.

Somebody needs to watch Moulin Rouge again. Scott Pilgrim too.

I'm the same way. I only kiss married women.

[/this is a joke]

 

[Robert Maxwell]

But, nope. I'm an un-attractive, over-weight, American loser who still reads comic books and plays DnD who can barely get any attention at all from the fairer sex. So, yeah, I'm cynical because the universe simply isn't built for people like me to have love.

I assure you, your looks are probably near the bottom of the list of reasons why women don't like you. This attitude in particular is most likely your biggest turn-off to anyone who'd potentially be interested in you.

I'm not exactly that good-looking, and while women don't fall all over me on a daily basis, I've never had any major droughts in the romance department.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

And, yeah, I am cynical. Goes along with the shitty-ass love life I have. The world has made me cynical because it's apparently not built for me to be in love or to be happy.

I think you have the cause and effect reversed.

 

[Kestra]

For what it's worth, I know a lot of fat ugly people that have managed to find love.

An un-attractive personality is going to make you that much uglier to the people around you.

The first guy I ever fell for was overweight and so sweet.