It's wrong, plain and simple. And please cite the example of 'it' being called that on Enterprise. I doubt it, but I've been wrong before.
Watch 'Broken Bow' and you'll see what I mean. Considering that the Klingon ship looks like a bird anyway (having a long neck, and an end like a bird's, only with shortened wings) it sound fine to me and to others.
It's wrong and it is an elementary mistake. It makes suspension of disbelief all the more difficult. It is such an overtly wrong statement that it is the equivalent of saying up is down and black is white.
Obviously. But, it did make for a more interesting plot point than, say, anything in
Star Trek Insurrection or any episode of the series, even if it's scientifically wrong.
How could I get that when everything in the film indicates that Spock was placed there deliberately by Nero to see the genocide firsthand. If what you say was indeed the case, why not keep him on the Narada and kill him after? Exactly, because what you say is A) not canon and B) stupid. Did you an I watch the same movie?
Except that (A) it
is cannon and (B) it's what happened as I (and possibly a few perceptive other fans) saw it; Spock Prime did see in the eyes of his mind telepathically what happened to Vulcan (just as he saw what happened to the
Intrepid's crew in 'The Immunity Syndrome' and as it's being relayed to Kirk in the mend meld)-and no, he didn't need to be on the
Narada for that. Where he was on the planet was enough for him as far as Nero was concerned; also, Nero thought that he wouldn't be able to survive long on the planet, so leaving Spock Prime there was, again a big win.
Too bad that the
Enterprise just happened to drop off James T. Kirk on it to meet Spock Prime by coincidence, though, or that they also happened to be in the vicinity of an abandoned Starfleet base with an engineer who just happened to have a radical long-range teleportation theory ready to be used by both Kirk and Spock Prime...
Ummm. No. with your reasoning, J. Edgar Hoover would have let his files on JFK lay about his desk for all to see. Let's break it down, Starfleet Admiral is creating a war machine with a genocidal monster who started the eugenics wars, to simultaneously usurp the ideals of the Federation and raise the ire of their enemies. No, your logic is flawed. You do not invite questions about an exercise in treason, you hide it if you are a traitor.
As I said, it's a garage kit/extrapolation/proposed future design of a current Starfleet vessel design similar to ones already made in the real world, and Marcus would probably explain it as such to anybody who came in; also,
RHIP.
I don't remember face altering or mind erasure, please refresh my memory?
As obvious to anybody who didn't need their hand held and could figure it out, that is what Marcus & Co. did to Khan to make sure that he wasn't figured out by anybody or caught on any security camera/scanner log, since Khan is (most likely) still a wanted war criminal (this is the plot-line of the
Star Trek: Khan comic book from IDW.)
I think it is relatively easy to conclude that Scotty was talking about hull damage based on the following statement: "Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is to hide a starship on the bottom of the ocean? We've been down here since last night. The salt water's going to ruin the. ...."
He should also be worried about water damage to the inside of the ship, too, especially to the computer systems.
Yeah, I have, thanks for being a condescending douche.
Condescending? Moi? No, just saying that it's not a big deal as far as the story's concerned
Only Abrams regularly and egregiously abuses this, ala the trip to Vulcan in the first reboot. It took 5 minutes after Sulu depressed the 'parking brake'...Ridiculous.
Everybody else did it in the movies and TV shows, and it's been mentioned by everybody else here on this board, or are you forgetful? As well, you can hardly expect the movie makers to show long stretches of them travelling to Vulcan or Kronos at warp, hence the (seemingly) shortened travel times to both planets in both movies.
No I started, you just haven't made it to the starting line yet. Hey don't sweat it, the world needs ditch diggers too...
I wasn't aware that I had to start running a race based on a ridiculous premise.
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