News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville

[tharpdevenport]

Sorry, I forgot that. That's still apparently forth in command, as Ed didn't call for anybody else. Still Wesley!

You can't use Trek rules to condemn a different show. The Orville is NOT Trek, the same rules don't apply.

Ah, yes I can. They aren't rules, they're world building; promotions, rank, chain of command -- these can cross to any genre show with a ship (spce, sea, or otherwise).

TNG did the same thing when a rookie Geordie was left in command in The Arsenal of Freedom after everyone ahead of him was indisposed.

That's not the same. Somebody has to take command if the senior officers in the chain of command are in dispose. What Ed did here was not only take the second in command with him off the ship, but he let the third in command take time off. And even then there's a forth in the chain of command, which apparently is Alara.

 

[Sophie74656]

Sorry, I forgot that. That's still apparently forth in command, as Ed didn't call for anybody else. Still Wesley!



Ah, yes I can. They aren't rules, they're world building; promotions, rank, chain of command -- these can cross to any genre show with a ship (spce, sea, or otherwise).




That's not the same. Somebody has to take command if the senior officers in the chain of command are in dispose. What Ed did here was not only take the second in command with him off the ship, but he let the third in command take time off. And even then there's a forth in the chain of command, which apparently is Alara.

You can't take Trek rules and apply them to another universe.

 

[Jayson1]

Sorry, I forgot that. That's still apparently forth in command, as Ed didn't call for anybody else. Still Wesley!



Ah, yes I can. They aren't rules, they're world building; promotions, rank, chain of command -- these can cross to any genre show with a ship (spce, sea, or otherwise).




That's not the same. Somebody has to take command if the senior officers in the chain of command are in dispose. What Ed did here was not only take the second in command with him off the ship, but he let the third in command take time off. And even then there's a forth in the chain of command, which apparently is Alara.

"Orville" doesn't strike me as a kind of show were these type of things are things we should be worrying about. It's still more comedy than drama so it's okay to be a little more loose on the details. Even when it is doing drama their is always a level of levity involved.

Jason

 

[dahj]

That's not the same.

It's exactly the same premise.

Picard left Geordi in charge expecting he'll be back shortly, but things happen and an unprepared Geordie has to deal with command (including being forced to abandon the senior officers...)

 

[Mudd]

You can't take Trek rules and apply them to another universe.

You can't take Trek rules and apply them to our universe.

 

[Mudd]

If Mcfarlane is trying to create a TNG vibe then he is succeeding, at least for me. The show feels like TNG, with a dash of TOS, and a lot more humor. I am hooked.

I'd reverse it a bit - TOS with a dash of TNG, mainly in the look. Isaac and Bortus ("Brutus?") are sound-alikes for Data and Worf, but are really different characters.

What makes it so much more like TOS, to me, is that they're playing the broad sci-fi concepts and tropes that modern Trek veered away from pretty quickly in a quest for the kind of middle-of-the-road plausibility that the studio and producers believed (rightly, I guess) would broaden the audience base. "We don't do antennae" was a perhaps somewhat apocryphal mandate from the producers that summarized the conservative approach they took.

We've had a time-ray and an alien zoo - in two weeks! I want to see first contact with a mysterious alien ship that they can't figure out anything about, with potential interstellar war in the balance. I want to see people split into two people, or going back in time to kill Hitler.

They really, really should Kill Hitler. It's the only Time Travel story they should do. No downside to doing that story, for a show that's fast on its feet and silly and pretty unembarrassed about being derivative (well, that's McFarlane after all).

 

[The Wormhole]

I just realized a possible joke naming connection between the names of Isaac and Newton, suggesting that these two will likely work together and perhaps butt heads in the future.

Ooh, now that is an intriguing idea.

Your Trek reference was that red alert sound in the zoo.

Oh, yeah, that's warp core breach alarm, wasn't it?

Well, advance word on the Thursday episode is that it's problematic.

The advanced reviewers completely tore Thursday's episode to shreds. Though considering their opinions on the show overall, that probably means the episode will be pure gold!

Okay, in all honesty, I get the impression it's going to be like one of Family Guy's "soapbox" episodes, which are never a highlight of that show. Hopefully the fun cast this show has can make it work, or at least watchable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

As soon as you kill Hitler, your parents never met, and you don't exist, and that's the best case scenario, considering Hitler ignoring his generals was a leading contribution to the NAZIs losing the war.

Damn, Preacher is ####ed up.

 

[Cyrus]

It's OK to kill Hitler. Just don't kill JFK.

 

[Mudd]

This show gets a lot done in 42 minutes.

I was wrong about the "tequila" - it's amber in the first scene, but a bright light source behind it washes the color out.

 

[Jayson1]

This show gets a lot done in 42 minutes.

I was wrong about the "tequila" - it's amber in the first scene, but a bright light source behind it washes the color out.

NOO!! I already inserted my idea into my head-canon! Now your saying I have to remove it? Do you know how painful it is to remove things from there? I still haven't been able to fully get ride of my idea that Sulu would someday become a future Enterprise captain after his time on the exceslior.

Jason

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Transporter signals can arc? Don't go J.J. on me, Seth.

Over interstellar distances, of course they would arc at least somewhat. It's basic physics that the galaxy's gravitational field isn't flat.

 

[gblews]

Finally saw the 2nd episode, on Hulu. A marked improvement over the pilot. The jokes, most of them, at least, weren't as obvious. Overall, I liked it.

I liked the bit with Mercer's parents. It reminded me of one of the L'waxanna Troi TNG episodes.

I also liked the use of the outer space zoo trope. Although McFarlane's acting leaves much to be desired, there is actual chemistry between him and Palicki. It made their scenes in the zoo seem realistic and amusing.

The whole Bortus and the egg thing was meh, but not out of place for this show. I didn't get that Bortus was gay in the previous episode although with a same sex planet, it's only logical. Glad they cleared that up.

My only complaint about the episode was the Compton joke. If this show is really not a slapstick parody, then why include a joke like this? It stood out like a sore thumb and took me right out of the episode.

 

[Ometiklan]

Contrary to most of the posters' comments I have read so far, I liked this second episode less than the pilot.
I felt this episode having two main, converging story focii and a third plot thread (Bortus) spent too little time with any of them to really do them justice. Alara's storyline was awkward and too short. The humor still largely worked for me though. The zoo element was a little tired, but I did like the people that felt so superior that they wouldn't even consider talking to a lower species - that was a well-done element.

So, overall I will still be tuning in, hoping the show gets better, but so far it is just medium quality.

 

[fireproof78]

Over interstellar distances, of course they would arc at least somewhat. It's basic physics that the galaxy's gravitational field isn't flat.

Does it require a 7 digit address?

 

[Photoman15]

The whole Bortus and the egg thing was meh, but not out of place for this show. I didn't get that Bortus was gay in the previous episode although with a same sex planet, it's only logical. Glad they cleared that up.

How is Bortus gay? He's from a single sex race (maybe) that lays eggs. They just happen to have male appearances and voices (so far)

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Does it require a 7 digit address?

Well, the location of what they thought was the Blériot had seven-digit coordinates, 8304934.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

How is Bortus gay?

True, he's quite humorless.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How is Bortus gay? He's from a single sex race (maybe) that lays eggs. They just happen to have male appearances and voices (so far)

They are all male.

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Fast forward to 0.34.

Of course "male" can mean completely different things for different species.

 

[Cyrus]

Captain Mercer sure knows a lot of obscure stuff. He knows Elvis Presley's last words. And even though humans no longer keep animals captive he knows about Shamu.