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News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville

The thing with Cosmos is that really is a special case in McFarlane's filmography. He was doing a remake of a documentary series, not his own original comedy/dramedy concept. So you really can't use it to judge McFarlane's usual work. I'm pretty sure if it was McFarlane's completely original concept, he probably would have found away to work in his usual crude humor.
Going into a Seth McFarlane show and complaining about "dick and fart jokes" is like going into a Star Trek show and complaining about the spaceships.
 
There's an implicit suggestion running through several posts here that Star Trek Voyager and DS9 would not have been improved by the inclusion of dick and fart jokes.

I reject this premise.

Voyager needed more personality, and I liked Voyager.
 
Well, to be fair, there's more to the Navy than "yes sir / no sir / permission to speak freely, sir."

Yes there is.

Not so true for the Star Trek Space Navy these days.

No one remembers that the most popular old Star Trek movie was the one where they got everyone out of uniform and loosened up? Well, double-dumbass on you, then!
 
One thing I teach my kids, and because I have to speak live on my toes, is to speak clearly and what you mean. It's as simple as that. I also minored in English. I'm very particular about using words correctly. Sorry if that offends you. Maybe I should have made my argument into a dick joke?
So, you always speak precisely. Never use euphemisms, jargon or metaphor. Every word is dictionary exact. :lol:
Tell me another one, Sheldon.

Also, I build sets. So, when someone asks for, or describes something, they have to be particular, or someone falls off a bridge.
One would hope so when building something. But conversations, where people have some common knowledge of the topic being discussed, like the style of humor used by a particular writer, is a different matter.
 
The "marital argument" involving the Krill was one of the most inspired "stall the bad guy" convos I've seen in one of these shows. it's a totally cliche scene, so how do you - oh, yeah, how hard is it not to get drawn into the middle of one of these things when the couple starts going at it hammer and tongs? :lol:
 
Also,

using a tree to blow up the bad guy's ship

is pretty darn more creative than what we saw from Trek in its later years.

Probably the last time Trek was that creative with a solution was the Crimson Forcefield from "Samaritan Snare" (TNG).
 
is pretty darn more creative than what we saw from Trek in its later years.
Well, yeah...it's creative. But a tree that can grow in absolutely any material is a huge stretch, and needed to make the gag work. If that was in an actual Trek show I can't see people really going for it. S'fine as a gag in a less serious show. I could see Futurama doing it. (And I don't mean that as an insult.)
 
There's an implicit suggestion running through several posts here that Star Trek Voyager and DS9 would not have been improved by the inclusion of dick and fart jokes.

I reject this premise.

But those weren't goofy space comedies. That's like comparing THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN to YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN, or HIGH NOON to BLAZING SADDLES. I tuned in expecting kind of a Mel Brooks take on STAR TREK and that's what I got, more or less. Some of the gags fell flat, but a few made me laugh out loud: the gelatinous blob, the bit about getting off at five, "we no longer need fear the banana," opening the pickle jar, and the whole Arbor Day routine.

It was cute. And just what I was in the mood for after a long day.

EDIT: I missed the "not" in Serveaux's post and completely misread his point. Never mind.
 
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I missed the first half (stupid life getting in the way), but what I saw was more enjoyable for me than "Farpoint" was in 1987. I'll catch a rerun to be sure, but I'm convinced at this point that I'll be a regular viewer.
 
I have to say that while I don't exactly love the inside, the outside of the Orville is a great design.

It's funny, but I think the exterior is charming but problematic - among other reasons because they're hell-bent on carrying their Trek design aesthetic through in every area, which means that the shuttle has to be outfitted with a miniature version of the three-ringed engine...and it's clumsy.

I like the Orville but it's no Protector II.

The "Need not fear the banana" fit into the scene more plausibly than the previews made it appear, because Mercer and Grayson have not yet been told what the technology is - they just saw a piece of fruit get rotten real quickly. Given some of the other botanical research they've just seen, that's kind of an underwhelming effect on its own.
 
And purple is admiralty. I didn't pay attention to any of the emblems this time around, but I will for the next episode.

I am amused that Adm. Halsey is a five-star admiral when in the U.S. Navy, a five-star admiral doesn't exist except during a time of war and is the highest ranking officer. I doubt that's his position in the Union considering the attention he was giving the Orville assignment and how lay back his work schedule appears to be.

There was plenty of weirdness with Admiral's pips in TNG. This could easily have been a shot at that.
 
Apparently some shots of the ship were filmed with a miniature, printed from the 3D model.

Flybys, and just general non-action shots.
 
There was plenty of weirdness with Admiral's pips in TNG. This could easily have been a shot at that.
Ah, yes, I had forgotten that. You may very well be right considering some of the other obscure references the episode had to TNG.
 
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