News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville
- Thread starter Kai "the spy"
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A lot of feels like Voyager to me but it manages to work. I wasn't the biggest fan of Voyager but here the "Voyager feel" is there and it works because, well, I like and am interested in the characters. The characters in Voyager never really clicked with me and it never felt like they clicked with one another.
Some of the stories and episodic nature of things in Orville feels like Voyager (the design of the Orville is also similar to Voyager as well as the opening credits sequence being very much like Voyager) but the cast feels a lot like TNG in how they interact with one another, play off one another and generally feel like a real "family." There was just something moving and touching in this last episode where Ed walks to his couch to express his confidence in Alara and his support of her.
Some of the stories and episodic nature of things in Orville feels like Voyager (the design of the Orville is also similar to Voyager as well as the opening credits sequence being very much like Voyager) but the cast feels a lot like TNG in how they interact with one another, play off one another and generally feel like a real "family." There was just something moving and touching in this last episode where Ed walks to his couch to express his confidence in Alara and his support of her.
This show is orders of magnitude better than Voyager ever tried to be, IMO.
But with the sense of adventure and frontier setting of TOS!
Oh no, I agree. It's just aspects of Orville sort of feels more "Voyager" to me than TNG (just something about the look, the characters, etc.) than TNG (though many of the stories feel more TOS) but it's doing whatever Voyager was trying to do better.
I hate this emoji most of all, but...
You people can't be serious. Of course it's taking cues from Voyager.
But better than Voyager? Gimme a break. Shame on you. Take your baggage and drop it out the nearest airlock. The show's like 8 episodes in.
BTW, who's Orville's Executive Producer? Brannon Braga.
You people can't be serious. Of course it's taking cues from Voyager.
But better than Voyager? Gimme a break. Shame on you. Take your baggage and drop it out the nearest airlock. The show's like 8 episodes in.
BTW, who's Orville's Executive Producer? Brannon Braga.
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I don't think I even made it 8 episodes (consecutively) into Voyager.
Well, it's been 20 years. Maybe it's time to watch it. It's a wonderful series.
I hate this emoji most of all, but...
You people can't be serious. Of course it's taking cues from Voyager.
But better than Voyager? Gimme a break. Shame on you. Take your baggage and drop it out the nearest airlock. The show's like 8 episodes in.
I'll wear my "shame" like a badge of honor.
Voyager is the only Trek series I couldn't watch all the way through from the pilot to the finale. It was just so underwhelming and boring, overflowing with technobabble solutions, reset buttons and underwhelming characters and storylines. A friend of mine who's a huge Trek fan dropped the show before I did. Then we watched the series finale together and it was quite the whimper.
I've watched Voyager plenty of times and it's just a blah series that doesn't take its own premise seriously, is too episodic and way too much relies on the reset button. For a ship trapped 70,000 light years away from The Federation it sure survived and recuperated from a number of high-damage situations and stayed remarkably pristine and in solid working order. And running into the Borg was a given but the Borg were over used, over done and severely weakened as enemies.
The only characters who approached interesting was Janeway, The Doctor, Seven and Torres; everyone else was pretty much a glorified extra.
There were some good episodes but overall the whole show is just meh.
IMHO
The only characters who approached interesting was Janeway, The Doctor, Seven and Torres; everyone else was pretty much a glorified extra.
There were some good episodes but overall the whole show is just meh.
IMHO
Way, way better than Voyager. Better than a large part of modern Trek.
And David A. Goodman (who wrote two Trek character autobiographies, also a producer on Futurama and Star Trek: Enterprise), and Seth MacFarlane (who spearheaded the wildly successful Family Guy take on Star Wars, and started this whole mess to begin with in 1999), and Cherry Chevapravatdumrong (a long-time writer/producer on Family Guy).
It is a very talented group of people.
This is fast becoming a very stuffy century!I wouldn't give a shit, but our overlords get super pissy over that. Can't even post the Kirk penis rock any more.
100 Quatloos for whoever guesses which SF series that is from! (I'm rewatching it now.)
Same here. It really taps into the old Trek vibe. But, it does it very well. This series fits like a comfortable old pair of jeans!
Just looking at Voyager's first eight episode, the best of which was probably Eye of the Needle, and even the lowest Orville episode so far completely blows that away.
I'm one of the people who actually thinks Voyager is unfairly criticised, but Orville certainly has its shit together more than Voyager ever did.
Don't get me wrong, there are a few episodes of Voyager I liked, but the series taken as a whole just didn't do it for me. Orville is exactly the opposite, IMO. The pilot was serviceable, yet a little shaky, and I think the marketing previews showed way too many of the jokes early on, but the series as a whole is definitely a better construct, tapestry and balance than VOY. Very consistent and infinitely more likable characters. You can also tell that the cast and crew seems to be having fun working on the show. There appears to be chemistry and genuine friendship there, as opposed to the dumpster fire on VOY overflowing with rampant unprofessionalism among and between many of the actors (Voyager apologists, don't ask me for examples - they're well known and documented - go look them up yourselves). Hell, even Orville's visual effects are at least as good as anything seen in VOY or ENT. It's clear that MacFarlane was smart and talented enough to keep everything that worked and airlock everything that didn't.
That, plus this show is not adherent to 20+ years of canon as VOY & ENT was, tying the latter's hands irrevocably. Orville has no history but what we're shown in the here-and-now, in order to support a given plot. Aside from the amusing Olympia configuration anomaly (which I think is going to be a new running joke in the show before too long), there necessarily can be no canon violations or continuity errors that Trek fans regularly love to bitch about.
It's a clean canvas and I'm loving every brush stroke. I hope I live long enough to see feature films set in the Orvilleverse.
That, plus this show is not adherent to 20+ years of canon as VOY & ENT was, tying the latter's hands irrevocably. Orville has no history but what we're shown in the here-and-now, in order to support a given plot. Aside from the amusing Olympia configuration anomaly (which I think is going to be a new running joke in the show before too long), there necessarily can be no canon violations or continuity errors that Trek fans regularly love to bitch about.
It's a clean canvas and I'm loving every brush stroke. I hope I live long enough to see feature films set in the Orvilleverse.
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