Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty wig?

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Then they should be playing different characters

Umm...

Exactly what does Scotty even LOOK like? Didn't James Doohan have THREE different hairstyles over the course of the original series?

TOS Scotty and TUC Scotty look NOTHING ALIKE. I was born after TOS aired, so I never saw it until well after seeing the movies, and I think the first time I saw young James Doohan, I had no idea who he was supposed to be.

He should like he did in the series, the movies were well after the series

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

they've made the smart choice to let the actors look like themselves. Good on them.

Then they should be playing different characters

Umm...

Exactly what does Scotty even LOOK like? Didn't James Doohan have THREE different hairstyles over the course of the original series?

He looked nearly the same in the series, even so he still does nto have the right accent, he does not sound like Scotty

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

they've made the smart choice to let the actors look like themselves. Good on them.

Then they should be playing different characters

No.

They are playing Kirk and Spock and McCoy and Scotty and the others.

Except for Nimoy playing Old Spock for a few scenes in this movie, the actors from the original TV series aren't cast in these roles any more. The studio has recast with new actors. Period, full stop.

The studio should get people that look like them, period, otherwise....who are these people going around calling themselves Kirk, Spcok, McCoy and Scotty?

 

[RoJoHen]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

They're actors.

Parts get recast all the time, and they don't necessarily look the same.

Because it doesn't matter.

 

[Michael]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Siwilliams, try using this button. It's very helpful.

 

[DeafPoet]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

We're Trekkies. Do we really have so little imagination that we can't make the leap that this guy's supposed to be Scotty without a damn wig?

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Siwilliams, try using this button. It's very helpful.

Sh*t, I did, just notice the triple> posts, oops

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

They're actors.

Parts get recast all the time, and they don't necessarily look the same.

Because it doesn't matter.

Well, I guess some just want there to be a feasibla resemblance

 

[ST-One]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Then they should be playing different characters

Or maybe these fictional characters are not completely determined by their appearance.

Like I said, then they should be different characters. Why use same characters that look different?

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

 

[Kirk1980]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Or maybe these fictional characters are not completely determined by their appearance.

Like I said, then they should be different characters. Why use same characters that look different?

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

And even Sean Connery didn't look like Hoagy Carmichael... (let's see if anyone knows the joke I made here!)

 

[Good Will Riker]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

And even Sean Connery didn't look like Hoagy Carmichael... (let's see if anyone knows the joke I made here!)

He is the actor who Ian Fleming visualized James Bond resembled when he wrote the first 007 novel Casino Royale.

So, what is my prize?

 

[Kirk1980]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

And even Sean Connery didn't look like Hoagy Carmichael... (let's see if anyone knows the joke I made here!)

He is the actor who Ian Fleming visualized James Bond resembled when he wrote the first 007 novel Casino Royale.

So, what is my prize?

My undying respect? Heh, wow, consider me impressed and suitably so. I'm glad others on here also read Fleming's Bond.

Er, that would be digressing....anyway.

Point still stands!

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Or maybe these fictional characters are not completely determined by their appearance.

Like I said, then they should be different characters. Why use same characters that look different?

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

Yeah Connery played the character 7 years till he was recast, Shatner was known for Kirk 42 years, huge difference. It would be one thing if Shatner was Kirk for two years and someone else played his character next. Also, this is suppose to be a prequel, yeah right. Star Trek was a series first, where as Bond is a series of movies, totally different and not really a valid point at all. What's your point?

 

[JoeZhang]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Like I said, then they should be different characters. Why use same characters that look different?

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

Yeah Connery played the character 7 years till he was recast, Shatner was known for Kirk 42 years, huge difference. It would be one thing if Shatner was Kirk for two years and someone else played his character next. Also, this is suppose to be a prequel, yeah right. Star Trek was a series first, where as Bond is a series of movies, totally different and not really a valid point at all. What's your point?

That you don't understand that they are all serial fiction owned by a movie studio as a commerical property and intended to make money?

 

[DeafPoet]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Like I said, then they should be different characters. Why use same characters that look different?

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

Yeah Connery played the character 7 years till he was recast, Shatner was known for Kirk 42 years, huge difference. It would be one thing if Shatner was Kirk for two years and someone else played his character next. Also, this is suppose to be a prequel, yeah right. Star Trek was a series first, where as Bond is a series of movies, totally different and not really a valid point at all. What's your point?

Connery's portrayal of Bond is seen by many as quintessential. Kinda like Shatner's portrayal of Kirk.

And what makes a TV series and a series of movies "totally different" for the purposes of this discussion?

Maybe it makes a difference to you, but calling it "not really a valid point at all" is a bit of a stretch, dontcha think?

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

Yeah Connery played the character 7 years till he was recast, Shatner was known for Kirk 42 years, huge difference. It would be one thing if Shatner was Kirk for two years and someone else played his character next. Also, this is suppose to be a prequel, yeah right. Star Trek was a series first, where as Bond is a series of movies, totally different and not really a valid point at all. What's your point?

Connery's portrayal of Bond is seen by many as quintessential. Kinda like Shatner's portrayal of Kirk.

And what makes a TV series and a series of movies "totally different" for the purposes of this discussion?

Maybe it makes a difference to you, but calling it "not really a valid point at all" is a bit of a stretch, dontcha think?

No, not a stretch at all, because Shatner played kirk more on tv, a weekly basis (more familiar, more familiarized), whereas movies are every so often in years

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Yeah, so neither Gorge Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig should be named 'James Bond' because they look nothing like Sean Connery?

Yeah Connery played the character 7 years till he was recast, Shatner was known for Kirk 42 years, huge difference. It would be one thing if Shatner was Kirk for two years and someone else played his character next. Also, this is suppose to be a prequel, yeah right. Star Trek was a series first, where as Bond is a series of movies, totally different and not really a valid point at all. What's your point?

That you don't understand that they are all serial fiction owned by a movie studio as a commerical property and intended to make money?

I understand, and also understand that you did not take the question seriously, so why even reply??

 

[DeafPoet]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Yeah Connery played the character 7 years till he was recast, Shatner was known for Kirk 42 years, huge difference. It would be one thing if Shatner was Kirk for two years and someone else played his character next. Also, this is suppose to be a prequel, yeah right. Star Trek was a series first, where as Bond is a series of movies, totally different and not really a valid point at all. What's your point?

Connery's portrayal of Bond is seen by many as quintessential. Kinda like Shatner's portrayal of Kirk.

And what makes a TV series and a series of movies "totally different" for the purposes of this discussion?

Maybe it makes a difference to you, but calling it "not really a valid point at all" is a bit of a stretch, dontcha think?

No, not a stretch at all, because Shatner played kirk more on tv, a weekly basis (more familiar, more familiarized), whereas movies are every so often in years

Okay, Shatner's logged more hours as Kirk than Connery as Bond. They were both like 40 years ago and are now so entrenched in the zeitgeist that your average person isn't counting. I know I'm not, anyway. If that kind of math is what you're preoccupied with then yeah, this casting probably would piss you off.

 

[Siwilliams]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

Connery's portrayal of Bond is seen by many as quintessential. Kinda like Shatner's portrayal of Kirk.

And what makes a TV series and a series of movies "totally different" for the purposes of this discussion?

Maybe it makes a difference to you, but calling it "not really a valid point at all" is a bit of a stretch, dontcha think?

No, not a stretch at all, because Shatner played kirk more on tv, a weekly basis (more familiar, more familiarized), whereas movies are every so often in years

Okay, Shatner's logged more hours as Kirk than Connery as Bond. They were both like 40 years ago and are now so entrenched in the zeitgeist that your average person isn't counting. I know I'm not, anyway. If that kind of math is what you're preoccupied with then yeah, this casting probably would piss you off.

You don't get it...bond casting does not piss me off, they did not wait over 40 years to recast after the part was played by one actor for almost 30 years. With Kirk they did, got it?

 

[DeafPoet]

Re: Seriously, wouldn't Simon Pegg look more authentic with a Scotty w

No, not a stretch at all, because Shatner played kirk more on tv, a weekly basis (more familiar, more familiarized), whereas movies are every so often in years

Okay, Shatner's logged more hours as Kirk than Connery as Bond. They were both like 40 years ago and are now so entrenched in the zeitgeist that your average person isn't counting. I know I'm not, anyway. If that kind of math is what you're preoccupied with then yeah, this casting probably would piss you off.

You don't get it...bond casting does not piss me off, they did not wait over 40 years to recast, with Kirk they did. got it?

I can assure you I got it in the first place, man.

I'm saying it doesn't matter how long they took to recast Kirk. One performance isn't more immune to recasting than the other. But if stuff like that does matter to you, then recasting Kirk's probably going to piss you off.