This one gets my vote.
Personally, I hope Ron Moore is never allowed within a thousand miles of Star Trek ever again. I'd literally rather have Brannon Braga running things.
Series VI - ideal showrunner?
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This one gets my vote.
Personally, I hope Ron Moore is never allowed within a thousand miles of Star Trek ever again. I'd literally rather have Brannon Braga running things.
None of those in the poll. Somebody else please.
The jms/Zabel proposal was just terrible.
As much as I liked nuBSG, until recently I wouldn't have favored Moore as the guy in charge of Star Trek. Recent conversations with Deckerd and others in TNZ have persuaded me that he might in fact be the ideal guy to make Trek on TV worth watching again.
As much as I liked nuBSG, until recently I wouldn't have favored Moore as the guy in charge of Star Trek. Recent conversations with Deckerd and others in TNZ have persuaded me that he might in fact be the ideal guy to make Trek on TV worth watching again.
^ You have me curious now. I've been on the fence about Ron Moore, as much as I also liked nBSG. What were the reasons that persuaded you?
I never requested TNZ (for my fix, I usually read CNN comments) and there are probably others here, posting or lurking, who haven't either.
I never requested TNZ (for my fix, I usually read CNN comments) and there are probably others here, posting or lurking, who haven't either.
Not a lot of reasons, but I was reminded of just how committed - and successful, IMAO - he was at getting something unexpected, intriguing and nuanced out of source material that was familiar, kitschy and superficial...coupled with the sense that for Trek to be worthwhile week after week after week on TV (a much, much more story-driven medium than big commercial films, at this point) it really needs to be rethought and rebuilt.
As much as Trek fans might like to fantasize about some future producer taking up Star Trek as an enthusiasm and reviving something that fits plausibly as a piece with the shows produced in the 1980s, 90s and first part of this century, that will never, ever happen. That's dead.
As much as Trek fans might like to fantasize about some future producer taking up Star Trek as an enthusiasm and reviving something that fits plausibly as a piece with the shows produced in the 1980s, 90s and first part of this century, that will never, ever happen. That's dead.
At this point it would already be too far removed, to say nothing about whenever Series VI actually starts.
The story was resolved anyway. The Dominion War is over, the Borg never assimilate the Federation, the Klingons are the Federation's allies, the Ferengi have begun reforms, Cardassia is in ruins, and Romulus was destroyed.
All plot-wise. Production-wise, it would obviously be very different. Series VI would be a clean slate regardless.
The story was resolved anyway. The Dominion War is over, the Borg never assimilate the Federation, the Klingons are the Federation's allies, the Ferengi have begun reforms, Cardassia is in ruins, and Romulus was destroyed.
All plot-wise. Production-wise, it would obviously be very different. Series VI would be a clean slate regardless.
I would think that the ST books demonstrate that there is plenty of story left in the prime universe. I fear Legion and Garth are right though. What ever the incarnation, I cannot what for Treks return to the small screen.
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Personally, I think any experienced and competent showrunner could do the job. Understanding the "core" of Star Trek is not difficult. JJ Abrams got it. It's just an optimistic future in space, starring a crypo-militaristic force of bleeding heart liberal imperialists.
Okay maybe that does sound like a pretty small target to hit...
It sounded like it could be a good B5 series, but was too metaphysically-oriented for Star Trek. Not sure if that's the right term. What I mean is, it's too B5 for Star Trek.
One could say that DS9 was too B5 for Star Trek, and that turned out to be an outstanding show and possibly the best Star Trek series ever produced.
The JMS/Zabel proposal wasn't really that great. I appreciate the ballsy-ness of the reboot idea when they proposed their take, but it really sounded like the same old JMS hat trick — an ancient race and an intersteller mystery.
There was a time when I may have wanted a JMS Trek, but over the years I have become less and less enthusiastic about his work. Hell, I enjoyed B5 when it originally aired and loved the JMS-penned STAR TREK comic, Worldsinger.
However, I couldn't stand SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE or his GROUNDED story arc. And I find myself enjoying B5's first two season because it was less about the metastory and more about the individual stories on the station. In any case, I feel his current work has a sameness that makes me feel his writing has become a bit stagnant.
There was a time when I may have wanted a JMS Trek, but over the years I have become less and less enthusiastic about his work. Hell, I enjoyed B5 when it originally aired and loved the JMS-penned STAR TREK comic, Worldsinger.
However, I couldn't stand SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE or his GROUNDED story arc. And I find myself enjoying B5's first two season because it was less about the metastory and more about the individual stories on the station. In any case, I feel his current work has a sameness that makes me feel his writing has become a bit stagnant.
Sadly I do have to agree with that. It seems as if he's burnt out and just recycling stories these days. I loved his run on Thor but there was one issue which basically regurgitated elements from two episodes of B5. The spirit of Captain America appeared and it looked almost exactly to the spirit of John Sheridan from the episode "The Long Night of Londo Mollari." The newscasts arguing about the legacy of Captain America was also reminiscent of the newscasts 100 years after the creation of the Interstellar Alliance and talking about the effect that Sheridan had on history.
That being said, though, his storyline with Loki was absolutely brilliant. He took elements from one previous issue, in which Odin talks about the circumstances surrounding the death of his father, Bor, and his taking Loki in as a child, and in a later issue comes up with a brilliant new twist on what was really behind those events. It was amazing. So yeah, while it does seem like he's getting repetitive, the man can pull out all the stops and come up with something brilliant when he wants to.
Certainly how and what you do with the subject matter is the point. Beethoven's three g's and and e flat under a lesser composer would be alot less memorable.
RH Wolfe's 'Untitled' thing looks just like Trek - a cop/western space opera.
An ideal showrunner would have a science fiction writer's sensibilities emphasizing realism and pacing and multiple POVs and things like that. A show about everything could quickly become a show about nothing in the wrong hands and with the wrong all too clever quick buck fast gun approach. At this point Trek is akin to a prostitute that no man wants to marry - or where many men have gone before. Heck, like the Christmas yule log, people might tune into a psychodelic caliedescope with sci-fi music and stories or poetry being read aloud. That would save on sets.
RH Wolfe's 'Untitled' thing looks just like Trek - a cop/western space opera.
An ideal showrunner would have a science fiction writer's sensibilities emphasizing realism and pacing and multiple POVs and things like that. A show about everything could quickly become a show about nothing in the wrong hands and with the wrong all too clever quick buck fast gun approach. At this point Trek is akin to a prostitute that no man wants to marry - or where many men have gone before. Heck, like the Christmas yule log, people might tune into a psychodelic caliedescope with sci-fi music and stories or poetry being read aloud. That would save on sets.
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