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Series Rewatch Leading Up to Season 3

I've been rewatching the first season, and I have to say it's fantastic. I remember enjoying it well enough, but the second time around it's much better.

I guess it's familiarity with the characters and the look and feel of the series that helps. The first time around the new style was a bit of a departure and took a while to get used to. Now I'm just focusing on the story and the characters, and it's really come alive for me.

I've just finished Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad, which is a hoot. Looking forward to season two. I think I can get it all in before season three drops here on Friday!
 
Before I dive into The Mirror Universe, because I feel like that's something I'd rather watch at night, I'm going into two other Short Treks. Why? I have Season 1 and Season 2 on DVD. I've been watching them in another room nowhere near a computer (and here). Curled up somewhere else. Watching them and being able to post here isn't a good combination. Slows things down.

But I never bought Short Treks on DVD. I couldn't justify the cost versus the amount of material. So I'm watching it here in front of my computer, before I get ready for The Mirror Universe.

"Runaway"
Po stows away while Tilly's mom tries to discourage her from pursuing the Command Training Program. Tilly's mom is like my father. If I'd listened to him, I wouldn't be pursuing the career I am right now. He fought what I wanted to do at every turn because it wasn't what he would've done. At some point you have realize that your parents' want for you to go the "safe" route is in direct odds with succeeding in a life that's meaningful for you. I'll leave it at that.

I forgot how fast (and invisible) Po can move. She just made those food processors act crazy. I liked the growls between Tilly and Po. And the silly way Tilly explained the mess in there when over officers showed up.

The Xaheans have dilithium mines and they were born with their planet. Not to spoil anything, but I wonder if either of those will figure into Season 3 at all? Anyway...

Po is about to become Queen of Xahea. I like her hesitation about becoming Queen and running away to avoid it and the way Tilly helps her to want to go back to be the Queen. If you run from greater responsibility than all you're doing is proving to people who doubt you that you can't do it. And that's why Tilly wanted to encourage her. Someone like Tilly's mother would be like, "No, you're right, you shouldn't be Queen."

I can only imagine Tilly's mother's reaction when she found out her daughter went into The Future.

Skipping over "Calypso" for now and heading into...

"The Brightest Star"
I'm going to do something different hear and just cut-and-paste what I said two years ago, because I don't know what else to add to it.

Cutting and pasting from December 7th, 2018:

Discovery doesn't do these too often, so I have to point it out whenever they do and it especially stands out here. The exterior location shots are breathtaking. Those first few shots of the outdoors are an instant hook.

The paraphrasing of "If man could fly, he'd have wings." Ha.

I can see the argument for having a younger actor play Saru... but underneath all that make-up, I don't think that's necessary. Just stretch the "skin" of the prosthetics a little, slightly alter Doug Jones' voice, and it would've worked. As it is, I can suspend disbelief. Or strike that. Saru's father sounds like he has an older type of voice. So Saru is an adult son. Maybe "the good son". I notice Saru's mother isn't around. So, my mother died when I was 18, and I could've moved out around that time, and my father probably would've told me to live on campus when I was in college, but he didn't want to have the house all to himself. So maybe Saru actually is an adult adult at this point. But anyway, just some personal insight.

I love the quiet moments outside, butterfly, Saru across from his sister. Then back inside where Saru sees the message "HELLO" from the device he has.

Saru sounds kind of like a typical science-fiction fan. Or the idea of one. "How can this life be enough for them?" I can't be the only here who's ever thought, "Just imagine what it would be like to get away this world and this existence!" Jupiter Ascending -- I don't know how many people here have seen this -- starts out much the same way.

It's amazing the technological transition Saru will have to make. He lives in a hut and writes with a quill. Living in our society would've been an adjustment for him. Never mind Star Trek's. Once again, the exteriors -- especially the extreme wide-shots -- as Saru waits for Georgiou, are feature-film quality. It feels about the right length. In a larger episode, I imagine we'd have seen the debate about whether or not Starfleet should even contact Saru. Never mind pre-warp. Saru was of a pre-industrial society. Then the episode ends on a note that hope is stronger than fear.

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Back to 2020. One thing I noticed that I didn't type about before were the creepy atmospherics at the beginning of the episode, especially with the lighting and all the orange, when Saru -- in his narration -- says that Kelpians welcome death and march willingly toward The Harvest. It feels like Halloween.

That's the only other thing I had to add. Everything else I typed from two years ago still stands and I couldn't have put things any better than I did there. Saved me some typing this time around. ;)

EDIT: I'll also add that both of these Short Treks involved young characters stepping up to become more than what they were and some of what they had to deal with while getting there.
 
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Here's my view, such that it is. The characters are not crappy, and so my enjoyment is predicated on responding to the characters in the situation. I'm less concerned about plot contrivances because I'm invested in the characters.

Now, there is a flaw in that I'm more forgiving of it. I'm more inclined to be generous even when the plot makes little sense. I'll read in to the situation.

That's why my answers ultimately are unsatisfactory to many. I'm reading in to the situation, willing to work within the story so it makes sense to me.

That makes sense.

I guess I am more sensitive to plot contrivances when they are sooo obvious. Or blatantly contradictory. If you tell me the crystal only has enough juice for a 1 way trip to the future and then I watch Burnham make 7 jumps, you have lost me.

One of the things I liked about previous Trek iterations was that they were smartly written (for the most part). Most of the time, the main characters act reasonably to resolve a crisis. The Finale reached tipping point for me. The crystal screw up. Send a shuttle! Get a rope!

Ironically, I really soured on the show due to character issues. In the Ariam episode. As others have stated, they tried to cash in on emotion they did not earn. And try to sell everyone as a family when no one even asked about Nan (hell, Burnham did not even check on her).
 
In the Ariam episode. As others have stated, they tried to cash in on emotion they did not earn.
And I completely disagree on this point. But, I am onboard for characters from the word go-they don't have to "earn" emotions from me. If the characters respond a certain way then that is sufficient for me if I am engaged with the characters.

I guess I am more sensitive to plot contrivances when they are sooo obvious. Or blatantly contradictory. If you tell me the crystal only has enough juice for a 1 way trip to the future and then I watch Burnham make 7 jumps, you have lost me.
That makes some sense to me, but for me that falls under "Star Trek" as a rule-actually, that's pretty much all of my recent TV viewing experiences so I just I am desensitized to it or something.
 
So after my Season 1 drop-out, I am low-key thinking on giving this series another chance....just so I can find out where Michael got these boots:

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Too much heel, I can't imagine stiletto boots being practical on the bridge.
In fact, the Kelvin Universe boots were just a tread-type of boot.
 
That's closer. They kind of have the heel Jadzia had for that one episode set on Kirk's Enterprise (which is what the Kelvin uniforms should have gone with). That said, I do like what Discovery have done with their uniforms, even if they do go into the obvious "space action outfit" look.

I might watch it again, S1 had a few things that took me out of the show but there were things I did like.
But yall can keep Lower Decks.
 
That's closer. They kind of have the heel Jadzia had for that one episode set on Kirk's Enterprise (which is what the Kelvin uniforms should have gone with). That said, I do like what Discovery have done with their uniforms, even if they do go into the obvious "space action outfit" look.

I might watch it again, S1 had a few things that took me out of the show but there were things I did like.
But yall can keep Lower Decks.
Well thank you.
I was really afraid that someone was going to abscond with it.
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"Despite Yourself" through "What's Past Is Prologue"
Just finished watching all four Mirror Universe episodes back-to-back-to-back-to-back.

I still think it's fucking awesome. This is the arc where people either love it or hate it and I love it. I don't care about what the gatekeepers say. DSC's take on the Mirror Universe is my favorite take on it. Period.

  • Cool uniforms.
  • Burnham makes a kick-ass grand entrance onto the bridge of the Shenzhou.
  • Lorca's real self slips through more and more.
  • Goateed Sarek.

  • Burnham discovers how to reach the Klingons by seeing how they act in a different context and a different scenario, realizing they have to unify with themselves before they can even start to think about peace with others.

  • Emperor Georgiou. Yes, I'm Team Georgiou. I like her better than Lorca. Eat it.
  • "What's Past Is Prologue" had the best phaser fight since DS9's "Rocks and Shoals" and "The Siege of AR-558".
  • Georgiou and Burnham vs. Lorca and his troops wouldn't feel out of place on Kill Bill.

  • Burnham's brashness saved a Georgiou instead of losing her, but it should be noted Georgiou was ready to go down fighting. It's Burnham's guilt at losing Georgiou that made her want to rescue her. Georgiou didn't ask for that and didn't want it.

  • The surprise twist at the end.

  • I had issues with Culber's death but this was still during the time when I thought Anyone Can Die. So anyone besides Burnham surviving to the end of the season would've surprised me at this point in the series' run, not the other way around. They toned all that way down in Season 2. But my first sense that Culber might be coming back was seeing him in the Mycellial Network.

  • Last Thing. The touchy one. I was not upset that Lorca was really from the Mirror Universe. I didn't care about that. Him pretending to be someone he wasn't was completely within his wheelhouse even before that. What upset me was that in the Mirror Universe he saw Burnham as a daughter figure and "then it became more". I know what that really means. That tipped my berserk button. But I got over it. He didn't have a thing with our Burnham and she wouldn't have let him.
I think that's it. There's probably more, but I don't have time for it. Assume I like everything they did. Time to finish off the rest of the first season.
 
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First they took Georgiou, then my sister:
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This is why I still haven't gotten around to watching S2 because I can't help it feel I will find another character I like or can identify with, only for them to be murdered for shock value.
 
First they took Georgiou, then my sister:
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This is why I still haven't gotten around to watching S2 because I can't help it feel I will find another character I like or can identify with, only for them to be murdered for shock value.
Well, in Season 2 they don't do that anymore. The core characters they have going into the season all come out of it alive. They lightened up the tone of the series quite a bit.

My god-sister works as a prison guard. She works in a women's correctional facility. And Landry comes off as a prison guard. So this is almost like watching a TV version of the closest thing I have to an actual sister in Real Life.

She was in the army, then became a guard after that. She might seem gruff but that's just a put-on at work. She's not really like that outside of it.
 
My god-sister works as a prison guard. She works in a women's correctional facility. And Landry comes off as a prison guard. So this is almost like watching a TV version of the closest thing I have to an actual sister in Real Life.

I just don't get how people can describe this show as SJW when all of the female characters I can identify with and root for are killed in action and swapped with Walmart brand mirror universe counterparts.

Of the women who survive, I don't care.
 
Finished Such Sweet Sorrow tonight so I'm officially ready for Season 3. Some of the melodrama I can take or leave, as well as a lot of the bowing down to Burnham feel of the first part, but I really enjoyed the finale more this time around. The battle was pretty impressive, but my favorite scene was actually Burnham's "trek" through time, connecting the dots to the season leading us to this point. This series can be light on sci fi sometimes so the visual effects of the time travel was really cool, and I do think they did a good job trying to connect everything. I also even found to like Giorgeau more this time around, even though she is still a psychotic killer. She is deliciously evil, and it makes it kind of fun.

I'm looking forward to Season 3. I hope we can see Burnham setting the last signal, even though I have a feeling that will be ignored. However, if this season does end with Discovery returning home, did they tell us where they are going to be, which is in the Beta Quadrant, 51,000 light years from Earth? Maybe something happens to the suit and Discovery will be like Voyager and have to get home? I doubt it, but it would be cool if the whole 51,000 light years thing did play a role to end season 3, and it shows me the writers have a little attention to detail.

I think if there is one thing I hope more than anything in season 3 it's allowing a wider point of view. Suru kinda disappeared after this big episode (Sound of Thunder) but I did like Stamets and Culber more. I still hope now that Discovery is on their own Tilly can actually form a stronger bond with Detmer and Owo. Like I said, they aren't main characters, but Tilly is and that looks like a fun friendship between them. Also, can we get Rhys and Bryce to say more stuff? Rhys really does have a look of bewilderment everytime the camera focuses on him.

Anyway, bring on Season 3 and the new characters. Now that I know what happened in Seasons 1 and 2, I'm hoping for good things in Season 3.
 
Finished the last two episodes of DSC's first season. Those were two of the most controversial episodes. We only spent a year-plus arguing about them afterwards.

"The War Without, the War Within" and "Will You Take My Hand?"
I'll keep it brief because it's late at night and I don't want to rehash old arguments again. I think these two episodes compliment each other. Once Discovery ends up back in the Prime Universe, they're faced with a Klingon Empire with divided factions competing with each other to see who can conquer the most of the Federation.

"The War Without, the War Within" shows the Federation being willing to compromise its principles out of desperation in order to survive. It's the type of thing you'd see in DS9's "In the Pale Moonlight". Burnham, Cornwell, and Sarek wanted to know how to defeat the Klingons. Georgiou knew how. But that's defeating them by using extremes and not getting to know the Klingons as a people, or just people in general.

The alternative Burnham comes up with in "Will You Take My Hand?" takes everything she learned about the Klingons through the Mirror Universe and her relationship with Tyler/Voq into account. They know the Klingons respect strength. L'Rell unites them by showing she's the Alpha. She has the keys to destroy Qo'noS if she wishes. It makes the Klingons unite under someone they think is powerful. Then she uses that power to end the war with the Federation. Thus Qo'noS doesn't have to be destroyed in order to keep the Klingons from wiping everyone in the Federation out. It's acknowledgement that Klingons don't think like Humans, so they had to come up with a solution that would save the most lives in a situation that wasn't ideal.

"Will You Take My Hand?" isn't just about stopping the war at large. It's also about Burnham being on Qo'noS and getting to see Klingons as just regular people for the first time. Something she probably never saw before. To her, the enemy was The Enemy. And now she got to see them in a different light at the Orion Embassy.

The Orion Embassy was fun. It reminded me of scenes from Blade Runner and it also reminded me of some nights when I'd walk through the streets of Boston. I live just south of Boston for those who don't know.

I spend more time talking about "Will You Take My Hand?" than "The War Without, the War Within" because the penultimate episode is more just set-up for the season finale. Two things that stood out in particular to me about "The War Without, the War Within" are seeing Stamets discover Tyler really does feel horrible about what he did as Voq. To be honest, I think Stamets handled it better than I would. But you can really see the anger in Stamets' eyes. Really good acting there. The other thing is Sarek and Georgiou comparing notes on Burnham.

Even though I don't think Tyler and Burnham were the best pair, it still felt sad for them to part ways while Tyler tries to re-discover who he is.

At the end of "Will You Take My Hand?", the Klingons have sorted themselves out in a new, force union, the war is over, the Federation returns to peace, and Burnham's rank is restored. It dovetails nicely into what will be Season 2.

Then we see the Enterprise show up. Somehow I managed to avoid spoilers for this, so it came as a surprise to me when I saw it.

I like the scene where Georgiou is recruited into Section 31 as well. I wish they would've found a way to include that scene in there somewhere to answer what she was going to do now she's in the Prime Universe for keeps. But at least it was included on the DVD set.

Going through the first season again and typing about it like this reminds me of how much I liked it. Onto the next season. I'm glad I got the Short Treks out of the way ahead of time, so I can go straight into it. Except for "Calypso". I'll save "Calypso" for after I finish the second season.
 
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