Series 9 Set Reports Thread (SPOILERS)

[The Wormhole]

I have to jump in here.. when Missy said her name was short for Mistress, and couldn't keep calling herself the Master anymore, I don't know what more you needed for a shocked Capaldi face then what I saw.. so the whole notion of the doctor not being shocked.. I just don't agree with that assessment. Just because he didn't comment on it doesn't mean he wasn't shocked by it, I mean sometimes people are at a loss for words over things that are crazy and shocking..

Well, of course he was shocked to learn Missy was the Master. When last the Doctor saw the Master, he was deteriorating from a botched resurrection and was pouring the last of his life force into a lightning attack on Rassilon. On top of all that, he got sucked back into Gallifrey, which was about to be time locked. So, when Missy revealed she was the Master, the Doctor learned someone he's considered dead for over a thousand years is in fact alive, but more importantly, she somehow escaped time locked Gallifrey, meaning she's a vital clue towards finding the Time Lords. Note, the only question the Doctor had about Missy's return was how could she be alive, not how did she become a woman.

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Moffat said mostly women said no to a female doctor, and in addition Peter Davidson also said the same, in the UK daily mail Back in 2013 when this subject was at its height.

Women also strongly objected in 1964(?) to the thought of a first officer aboard a starship who also was a woman. Doesn't make that okay; depends on who you ask, doesn't it?

ALEX KINGSTON FOR THE NEXT DOCTOR
(whenever Capaldi is done having the time of his life, of course.)

 

[Starkers]

Fan reaction the Day BBC announces the Doctor is Regenerating as a woman..

Some fans. And knowing that this is going on will only increase my own pleasure 10fold #schadenfreude

Now to be fair that might be my reaction if they cast the wrong woman, same as if they cast the wrong man...nah actually it wouldn't be really, cos whoever they cast I'd give them a chance (learned my lesson many years ago over Daniel Craig) but some actors just inspire you to relax (Capaldi) because you know they're not going to be terrible, someone like Olivia Colman would do the same, it's the Matt Smith's(male or female) of this world who you have no background on who make you pause (although from the moment he started doing that weird thing with his hands in his first interview I started to relax )

man or woman, young or old, fat or thin, black or white what matters is that they're the best person to play the Doctor at that time (at at least the best person who's affordable/available/interested!)

 

[Captaindemotion]

The reality is that there is a constant push by a minority to always get the majority to aqueous to their demands. This political correct behavior is destructive to traditional institutions, and when adhered to and it fails, the reaction of the majority rejecting the minority demands, the minority always resort to denigrating either by calling the majority sexist, white washers, bigots, homofobs, and even evil all to justify it's failures. The truth is the majority should always call out these tactics and not be cow towed into making changes simply to appease a few or for fear of being attacked for their position. If having a woman play doctor who is so important, those people should run out and create their own show about a woman time traveler and stop making demands that aren't clearly the majority opinion.

You really need to get a grip. We're talking about a TV programme. And about a fictional character from a imaginary race. Who has 2 hearts, lives for millennia and changes appearance & personality.

There is no push by a minority. Some of us just don't think it's the end of civilisation if a woman plays The Doctor.

 

[StCoop]

There is no push by a minority. Some of us just don't think it's the end of civilisation if a woman plays The Doctor.

Since when are women a minority group, anyway?

 

[Doctorwhovian]

I wonder if Osgood's ressurection might have something to do with the Nethersphere (the purgatory line, for instance). If Missy's evolved especially. Did we ever find out what happened to it? We saw the 'clouded' souls departing to enter the Cybermen bodies, but wouldn't it still be in St. Pauls/3W/Missy's TARDIS?

Or maybe it was just the Zygon one

As for the Doctor being rusty after Trenzalore because of staying there so long, it's been established in both series that the Doctor doesn't really see time the way humans do; he once remarked in an 80's story that decades feel like a few double heartbeats to him, or something to that effect, plus he was able to pretty much just pick up and go about his normal ways after a year of torture and imprisonment by the Saxon Master, whereas Martha and her family, Lucy and even Jack were pretty messed up. Granted, that's not 900...

Time Lords as established in War Games can last pretty long ("Forever barring accidents"), even in the same body before old age sets in (As we've seen established many times). The Doctor's still probably fairly young for a time lord (The Fourth Doctor said he was middle-aged in Pyramid Of Mars, though, but he was kind of angry about being still tied to UNIT and that was mainly his excuse).

 

[Sindatur]

As for the Doctor being rusty after Trenzalore because of staying there so long, it's been established in both series that the Doctor doesn't really see time the way humans do; he once remarked in an 80's story that decades feel like a few double heartbeats to him...

But, you're forgetting about The power of Three, where he was so hyper, trying to pass the time..."Is this how slowly time normally passes"?

I believe time usually passes so quickly for him, because he is generally engaged in adventures non-stop

 

[RoJoHen]

But, you're forgetting about The power of Three, where he was so hyper, trying to pass the time..."Is this how slowly time normally passes"?

I believe time usually passes so quickly for him, because he is generally engaged in adventures non-stop

Now I'm actually wondering if it really was 900 years that passed on Trenzalore, or if the Doctor was just exaggerating because he's used to time moving so much faster. Maybe he doesn't even know he's exaggerating.

I've really begun to think that the Doctor truly has no idea how old he is anymore.

 

[starsuperion]

Wasn't there a image of a new k9 from filming season 9 posted on the web, maybe the guardian??

 

[DWF]

As for the Doctor being rusty after Trenzalore because of staying there so long, it's been established in both series that the Doctor doesn't really see time the way humans do; he once remarked in an 80's story that decades feel like a few double heartbeats to him...

But, you're forgetting about The power of Three, where he was so hyper, trying to pass the time..."Is this how slowly time normally passes"?

I believe time usually passes so quickly for him, because he is generally engaged in adventures non-stop

Makes you wonder how the third Doctor spent his time wen he wasn't adventuring. Or more likely it was jsut a quirk of the Smith's Doctor.

 

[The Wormhole]

Now I'm actually wondering if it really was 900 years that passed on Trenzalore, or if the Doctor was just exaggerating because he's used to time moving so much faster. Maybe he doesn't even know he's exaggerating.

Well, we do see him age quite a bit, and it would take a while for a Time Lord to age that much. Mind you, 900 does seem a bit too far. Up until that figure was actually released by the BBC as the official number (the episode itself doesn't reveal the exact number) I had guessed it was 600 episodes.

An oddity, however. Tasha Lem doesn't age at all, although the Doctor explains that "she's against aging." But then none of the other soldier clerics we see with her age either.

 

[RoJoHen]

Now I'm actually wondering if it really was 900 years that passed on Trenzalore, or if the Doctor was just exaggerating because he's used to time moving so much faster. Maybe he doesn't even know he's exaggerating.

Well, we do see him age quite a bit, and it would take a while for a Time Lord to age that much. Mind you, 900 does seem a bit too far. Up until that figure was actually released by the BBC as the official number (the episode itself doesn't reveal the exact number) I had guessed it was 600 episodes.

An oddity, however. Tasha Lem doesn't age at all, although the Doctor explains that "she's against aging." But then none of the other soldier clerics we see with her age either.

I just can't help thinking of his line from "The Day of the Doctor" when asked how old he is...

"1200 and something, I think, unless I'm lying. I can't remember if I'm lying about my age. That's how old I am."

I really do believe he's lost the ability and/or the interest to keep track, which I think makes sense for someone so old.

 

[Sindatur]

Now I'm actually wondering if it really was 900 years that passed on Trenzalore, or if the Doctor was just exaggerating because he's used to time moving so much faster. Maybe he doesn't even know he's exaggerating.

Well, we do see him age quite a bit, and it would take a while for a Time Lord to age that much. Mind you, 900 does seem a bit too far. Up until that figure was actually released by the BBC as the official number (the episode itself doesn't reveal the exact number) I had guessed it was 600 episodes.

An oddity, however. Tasha Lem doesn't age at all, although the Doctor explains that "she's against aging." But then none of the other soldier clerics we see with her age either.

I just can't help thinking of his line from "The Day of the Doctor" when asked how old he is...

"1200 and something, I think, unless I'm lying. I can't remember if I'm lying about my age. That's how old I am."

I really do believe he's lost the ability and/or the interest to keep track, which I think makes sense for someone so old.

Yea, it makes sense, especially since Gallifrey has been lost, and he doesn't even have Gallifrey as a "true" time reference anymore.

Plus, even in Classic Who, he didn't seem consistent.

Also, if he had 600 years on Trenzalore, plus 200 years prior to Trenzalore with Smith face, plus at least 600 - 700 years Classic Who, that's already 1400 years, and that doesn't count McCoy aging, McGann, War Doctor, Eccelston nor Tennant. The War Doctor's gotta be good for at least another 200 years, considering how young he regenerated into and how much he aged

 

[Mr Awe]

^ Funny thing is, he's probably not even that old for a Time Lord who has regenerated so many times. He keeps having to regenerate early due to his lifestyle while the regular Time Lord probably tends to regenerate due to old age!

Only Hartnell and Smith have regenerated due to old age.

Mr Awe

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I think you can count the War Doctor, too.

 

[Mr Awe]

^ Good point! But, he's still had to regenerate early for the majority of his incarnations.

 

[Worf2DS9]

It's gotten to the point that I'm not even going to subscribe to the Space Channel for the next batch of episodes. The absolute stupidity of this past season made me feel cheated.

I was also underwhelmed by Series 8 and no longer have Space after downgrading my Rogers package, but I just rewatched the run with my free trial of shomi, and I must admit I liked it a bit more than I did initially. Things that really rubbed me the wrong way before weren't quite as annoying this time, perhaps because it flowed better without all the commercial breaks.

That said, there are still things I'm not fond of, like a lot of Clara's characterization, the part-time companion thing with her, and Danny Pink; nice enough guy I suppose, but I don't need soap opera melodrama with my Doctor Who.

I was initially disappointed Clara was back to stay at the end of "Last Christmas," but I'm willing to give her another chance in Series 9 to hopefully show us more of the Clara I grew very fond of in Series 7b.

 

[RoJoHen]

but I just rewatched the run with my free trial of shomi, and I must admit I liked it a bit more than I did initially. Things that really rubbed me the wrong way before weren't quite as annoying this time, perhaps because it flowed better without all the commercial breaks.

I find this to be the case with all of Moffat's episodes. I usually hate an episode the first time I see it, but then I watch it again in the context of the whole season and suddenly it's my favorite episode ever.

I think he tends to pack too much stuff into his stories that you don't really notice until you watch them again.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I think you can count the War Doctor, too.

^ Good point! But, he's still had to regenerate early for the majority of his incarnations.

I think its a little different with him. He was an incarnation that was designed to fight in the Time War. And as such, when his job was done, he started regenerating.

The main reason I say this, is because of how readily he saw his regeneration occuring. He wasn't "dying", like 1 or 11 were, as it were. At least, IMO.

 

[Sindatur]

I think you can count the War Doctor, too.

^ Good point! But, he's still had to regenerate early for the majority of his incarnations.

I think its a little different with him. He was an incarnation that was designed to fight in the Time War. And as such, when his job was done, he started regenerating.

The main reason I say this, is because of how readily he saw his regeneration occuring. He wasn't "dying", like 1 or 11 were, as it were. At least, IMO.

Moffet made a comment that The War Doctor had been around a long time (To see evidence of this, you can see in the reflection, that McGann regenerated into a young looking John hurt, and he regenerated into Eccelston as an older [current day] John Hurt) I definitely got the impression that The War Doctor had worn out his body. Sure, he could've probably pushed it further, if the war hadn't been over, but, he definitely said it was time for him to rest when he regenerated.