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Sept 8 trailer
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Its the Lego movie Dooplos.
All of Star Trek is just the action figures of a teenage boy, his younger sister, and his father.
All of Star Trek is just the action figures of a teenage boy, his younger sister, and his father.
Well in the short trek where we first meet Craft we see him warp away at the end of the episode. So if this burn had an effect on warp travel that shouldn't have been possible. I bet that the Burn this will be a result of some version of Control or something similar. The whole Control storyline started when a probe got sent back in time with future tech, this will probably explain where that came from.
Everything from the creators is canon unless they declare otherwise.
Everything from the creators is canon regardless of what they say.
A couple of odds and ends and observations...
On "Calypso": when it takes place is a little fuzzy, isn't it? When Craft asks Kora how long she's been waiting for the crew to return she says almost 1000 years. So is that almost 1000 years after Discovery arrives in the 32nd century, or almost 1000 years from the 23rd century?
Also, in "Perpetual Infinity," one of the mission log entries that Micheal watches shows Dr. Gabrielle Burnham traveling 950 years into the future and saying that there's no life anywhere due to what she believes was an anti-matter detonation throughout the galaxy, and believing that Control was responsible for it.
So, 950 years into the future and Dr. Burnham says everything is gone and there's no life. And Micheal arrives 930 years into the future and finds that there's still life, but there's been something called "The Burn."
On "Calypso": when it takes place is a little fuzzy, isn't it? When Craft asks Kora how long she's been waiting for the crew to return she says almost 1000 years. So is that almost 1000 years after Discovery arrives in the 32nd century, or almost 1000 years from the 23rd century?
Also, in "Perpetual Infinity," one of the mission log entries that Micheal watches shows Dr. Gabrielle Burnham traveling 950 years into the future and saying that there's no life anywhere due to what she believes was an anti-matter detonation throughout the galaxy, and believing that Control was responsible for it.
So, 950 years into the future and Dr. Burnham says everything is gone and there's no life. And Micheal arrives 930 years into the future and finds that there's still life, but there's been something called "The Burn."
Either Discovery goes back to the 23rd Century for some reason and then hides out in that nebula for 1,000 years (presumably where it can't be detected)...
... or there's a second time-jump from the 32nd Century to the 42nd Century (give or take)...
... or Discovery ends up in a time-bubble where 1,000 years pass inside it, but next-to-no time passes outside of it. Zora needs 1,000 years to develop but they don't have 1,000 years, hence the time-bubble.
Those are the three possibilities I see.
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Great trailer!
Do my eyes doth deceive me, or was that Tim Roth with long hair?
Do my eyes doth deceive me, or was that Tim Roth with long hair?
Great trailer!
Do my eyes doth deceive me, or was that Tim Roth with long hair?
Pretty sure that's Jake weber from 'medium' its definitely not tim roth
I was thinking the former. Discovery goes back to the 23rd to, among other things, bring Georgiou back for S31 and is programmed to hide in the nebula until the crew can reclaim it. I do like the send it back in time for the AI to learn angle, but that could also be a side effect. I.e. leave an AI alone for 1000 years and it will become sentient.
I AM SO HAPPY!
Was having a crappy day and then saw the new Trailer just now!
I’ll have to rewatch and dissect it later, but this is exactly how I wanted S3 to go.
My heart skipped a beat when I saw Discovery laying partially destroyed after coming through the worm hole. My concern about it now being “out of date” is mute. Could Discovery’s spore drive now be the “key” to FTL travel after “the burn”?
I’m guessing, from the previous trailer, Discovery comes through the worm hole at the same time as Burnham, but crashes on another planet. Burnham then has to set out to find it?
So awesome to see more Kelpiens!
ANYWAY, these are just my initial thoughts. Sorry if any of this has already been mentioned lol. I’ll rewatch and have a look through the forums later tonight
Was having a crappy day and then saw the new Trailer just now!
I’ll have to rewatch and dissect it later, but this is exactly how I wanted S3 to go.
My heart skipped a beat when I saw Discovery laying partially destroyed after coming through the worm hole. My concern about it now being “out of date” is mute. Could Discovery’s spore drive now be the “key” to FTL travel after “the burn”?
I’m guessing, from the previous trailer, Discovery comes through the worm hole at the same time as Burnham, but crashes on another planet. Burnham then has to set out to find it?
So awesome to see more Kelpiens!
ANYWAY, these are just my initial thoughts. Sorry if any of this has already been mentioned lol. I’ll rewatch and have a look through the forums later tonight
Says who?
And what do you accept when two canon factoids clash?
When Roddenberry was Keeper of the Flame, he declared "parts of Star Trek V" as "apochryphal", and he did say, through Richard Arnold, that even his own novelization of "The Motion Picture" was not "canon". Of course, when GR passed, everyone was happy to ignore his decrees. The novel "Voyager: Mosaic" was considered canon by Jeri Taylor until she left - she encouraged the writers to use her material - but the book started getting overwritten. The Braga/Berman era of "Voyager" suggested that they would consider "Threshold" non canonical.
In any case, I don't get tied up in knots about it. I look forward to the new and the brave stuff still to come.
Says me. I'm a Barthesian. When the author publishes something, that thing is published, and whatever he or she says later or however he or she reinterprets it is nice, but has as much weight as my interpretation or the guys' down the street or Richard Arnold's.
That's my bread and butter. No one best interfere with false claims of authority.
Yeah, that was mostly rules for tie-ins and rightfully ignored, especially as the years go by.
CBS owns Star Trek, and thanks to them we are getting more and more, but they are not the author. Star Trek is a chimeric creature created by people dead, retired, and barely involved. It's a media franchise, like Doctor Who, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, that was created and is being created outside the vision of a singular person and, thus, is much more open to interpretation.
Nope.
Also Discovery is in the 32nd Century, so at least 100 years after the time Daniels came from.
Perhaps... someone does SOMETHING to burn subspace. No more instantaneous communications, and warp travel would make the problem worse, thus warp drive is unable to be used, thus cutting worlds off from each other. Memory Alpha is thus inaccessible, and the Mycelial network will become a replacement for subspace, and the DASH drive will become the new warp drive. I just can't reconcile this with Calypso, which happens later.
That does seem to imply "the Burn" happened relatively recently though, meaning the Federation shouldn't be a distant memory, but something that happened within the lifespan of many of the longer-lived species like Vulcans and Klingons.
Edit: Also, it's kinda hard to believe the future Federation, being so into time travel, didn't see this coming.
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