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Spoilers Senior Officer Replicators

TROI: Computer, dispatches.
COMPUTER: A research enquiry from the Manitoba Journal of Interplanetary Psychology and three communiqués from your mother.
TROI: Transfer the letters from my mother to the viewscreen. And, computer, I would like a real chocolate sundae.
COMPUTER: Define real in context, please.
TROI: Real. Not one of your perfectly synthesised, ingeniously enhanced imitations. I would like real chocolate ice cream, real whipped cream
COMPUTER: This unit is programmed to provide sources of acceptable nutritional value. Your request does not fall within current guidelines. Please indicate whether you wish to override the specified programme?
TROI: Listen

Override.

Rank hath its privileges.
 
Come to think of it, I thought it a little weird that Boimler (?) would say they are sleeping in “the corridor”, when the end of that “corridor” seems to be leading to a large window looking out the back of the ship. I understand a corridor as a room that let's people pass to get from one place to another. But other than the Lower Deckers living there no-one would actually need to pass that corridor. Seems like the corridor is actually just a very elongated room.
 
Pretty sure that, by the end of DS9 on TV, they would have agreed upon banking tech protocols and exchange rate rules and such to allow for that.

Probably had to figure a lot of it out before Starfleet took over the station, helped in rebuilding and defending Bajor. That stuff ain't free!
 
But again, they were in a room, not a corridor.

But AGAIN, I understand that it's part of the joke and accept it as such. It doesn't need to be rationalized into the rest of Star Trek canon.

What's the difference between a long room and a corridor? :)
 
What's the difference between a long room and a corridor? :)
They clearly called it a corridor in the first episode and there's all sorts of doors leading into storage rooms and such. There's no need to perform mental acrobatics in order to contradict that.
It's the dead end of a corridor.

But what do you not understand about "I accept it as part of the joke"? :rolleyes:
 
They clearly called it a corridor in the first episode and there's all sorts of doors leading into storage rooms and such.
Are there, though? I need to study the screenshots again, but I don't remember any doors in the area where the beds are.
 
They clearly called it a corridor in the first episode and there's all sorts of doors leading into storage rooms and such. There's no need to perform mental acrobatics in order to contradict that.
It's the dead end of a corridor.

But what do you not understand about "I accept it as part of the joke"? :rolleyes:

I actually am pointing out that I don't see a difference in accomadations if its a corridor leading to the showers versus a rectangle room with a door leading to the showers.

If it's a joke, what's funny about it? It seems reasonable for a starship.
 
Are there, though? I need to study the screenshots again, but I don't remember any doors in the area where the beds are.
If I remember correctly in the first episode Mariner shows Tendi around and the "storage closet where Boimler pretends he's a Captain" is just before their bunks where then Tendi exclaims "We sleep in the corridors?" There is no door or anything that separates the part with Boimler's closet from the part with the bunks.

If it's a joke, what's funny about it? It seems reasonable for a starship.

I can't believe I have to explain this, but the premise of the show is that they are the lowest of the low and frequently treated as expendable/crap. So much so that they have to sleep in the corridor and are not offered any sort of privacy.
 
If I remember correctly in the first episode Mariner shows Tendi around and the "storage closet where Boimler pretends he's a Captain" is just before their bunks where then Tendi exclaims "We sleep in the corridors?" There is no door or anything that separates the part with Boimler's closet from the part with the bunks.
Just rewatched that part and there actually seems to be some in-universe time between the two sequences, as when they are arriving at the bunk area they no longer are pushing the cart with Mariner's contraband.

Looking at screenshots, there don't seem to be many doors in the area, but I misremembered that the corridor leads to a dead end, because we can actually see that it leads to another corridor. So yeah, they are sleeping in the corridor. :)

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But the majority of non-human animals are not sapient.

Majority of humans alive today don't display sapience.
Just because its not immediately apparent according to human standards, doesn't mean non-human animals lack it (in fact, our 'efforts' to better understand animals have been sorely lacking).
This planet is teeming with sentient life (as science demonstrated a LONG time ago), but we are too self centered to think that Humanity is the only animal species that matters (we really don't... because the Earth can easily go on without us... however, non-human animals play a VITAL role in Earth's ecosystem).

You don't see non human animals polluting their own environment for the sake of 'infinite growth' and bits of paper that utterly mean nothing and causing climate change (among other things).
In fact, Humans (to date) have displayed disproportionately large levels of stupidity... and that mainly stems from lack of exposure to relevant general education, critical thinking and problem solving (not to mention living in an archaic monetary socio-economic system).
 
I can't believe I have to explain this, but the premise of the show is that they are the lowest of the low and frequently treated as expendable/crap. So much so that they have to sleep in the corridor and are not offered any sort of privacy.

Maybe because I've vacationed in Japan a lot but I don't see the problem with the accommodation.
 
Deks said:
It reeks of 'social stratification', whereas such things were supposed to be eradicated centuries ago.
Or, with the constant corrupt / insane Captains, corrupt Admirals, jackass legal officials, casual revocation of basic rights (the question of whether Data was a person or not would have had to be resolved before he could have enlisted), unchecked rape gangs in colony worlds, Vulcans that decide not to help Romulans with the Nova, a Starfleet that decides not to help with evacuation, a fascist Trill government, etc, etc, etc.... could it be that a lot of the Federation's claims to so many high and lofty evolved sensibilities are a fetid load of dingoes' kidneys? Hogwash and propaganda.

I like things about every show in Trek, but TNG took a wrong turn when it tried to sell us on sanitized, evolved humans. TOS said we were better in the future in spite of our flaws, and starting with Discovery, Trek is getting back to that. Give us a hopeful future... but show us US in that future, not a bunch of Stepford people.

Now, my opinion on the replicators: there may be no money, basic needs are solved, but there are still benefits reserved for life progression, including rank. It doesn't make much sense that the tech would be inferior, but quality and number and health and security restrictions for the programs all make enough sense. And Starfleet personnel agree to it when they go in. I can program/hack my home replicator. But I also can't progress in Starfleet that way.
 
Come to think of it, I thought it a little weird that Boimler (?) would say they are sleeping in “the corridor”, when the end of that “corridor” seems to be leading to a large window looking out the back of the ship. I understand a corridor as a room that let's people pass to get from one place to another. But other than the Lower Deckers living there no-one would actually need to pass that corridor. Seems like the corridor is actually just a very elongated room.

The architects keep putting bowling alleys in star ships.

TRADITION!!!

But the interior decorators keep saying "No %%cking way!"
 
I like things about every show in Trek, but TNG took a wrong turn when it tried to sell us on sanitized, evolved humans. TOS said we were better in the future in spite of our flaws, and starting with Discovery, Trek is getting back to that. Give us a hopeful future... but show us US in that future, not a bunch of Stepford people.
Exactly. Sorry that current humanity offends so badly but if we don't believe that current humans can become better then the future is rather strange one.
 
Or, with the constant corrupt / insane Captains, corrupt Admirals, jackass legal officials, casual revocation of basic rights (the question of whether Data was a person or not would have had to be resolved before he could have enlisted), unchecked rape gangs in colony worlds, Vulcans that decide not to help Romulans with the Nova, a Starfleet that decides not to help with evacuation, a fascist Trill government, etc, etc, etc.... could it be that a lot of the Federation's claims to so many high and lofty evolved sensibilities are a fetid load of dingoes' kidneys? Hogwash and propaganda.

Starfleet devoted the entirety of its resources to helping the Romulans. Spock and his people did stop the supernova. Just not in time.

And Tasha's world is not part of the Federation.
 
"Spock and his people" were not the Vulcans - the Vulcans were obstructionist. The conditions on Tasha's world demanded intervention regardless of politics - and there was no PD issue, either. As for your first comment, I'll just say you need to (re)watch PIC, and leave it at that.
 
"Spock and his people" were not the Vulcans - the Vulcans were obstructionist. The conditions on Tasha's world demanded intervention regardless of politics - and there was no PD issue, either. As for your first comment, I'll just say you need to (re)watch PIC, and leave it at that.

1. That is claimed by Nero, who is insane. We have it canonized in Picard that the Federation went to elaborate extraordinary lengths for the Romulans.

2. The Prime Directive says no intervention in internal matters without a request for aid, which was not given. The Alliance and the Coalition had both declared independence from the Federation and that they wanted nothing to do with it.

3. A planet and fleet were destroyed before they decided not to help further.
 
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