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Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

Timeframe: Approximately 15 years post-Nemesis. The situation, at first, is very much as we last saw it.

Setting: Initially, primarily on a deep-space exploration vessel, just returning to Federation space after an extended "beyond the borders" cruise.

Cast: The specific characters have no "hooks" or "gimmicks." They are simply characters. And characters will come and go throughout the series.

One common factor all have is that they tend to be a bit "maverick" in their thoughts and behaviors. This can, in large part, be attributed to the fact that the captain is a bit of a nonconformist himself (similar, in that way, to Kirk). It's odd, however, that you could end up with a ship so filled with nonconformist types. In fact, it should be a matter of curiosity, even among the crew, that so many "talented troublemakers" were all sent away on an extended "out of contact" mission at the same time. This would, initially, be treated as a joke.

The First Season: The first series would be largely "conventional Star Trek." The ship and crew would be reassigned to routine duties (think most of TNG). There would be a few "off-kilter" discoveries and incidents, however, that would set off warning bells to the crew (and the the frequent viewer).

We'll get to know the characters. At least one major character will be transferred to HQ during this season (ideally, one of the more popular ones).

The first season will end up with the return of the departed character. Or the APPARENT return, as it will rapidly become evident that the returned character isn't quite the same person he or she was before.

The Second Season: We'll still see a series of "regular" Trek episodes, but more and more "off-kilter" things will be seen. The returned character will become more and more threatening, as it becomes apparent that this individual seems to have an agenda of his or her own.

A feeling of paranoia will build up during this season. Eventually, the Captain and his closest adviser will decide that they have to find out what really happened to the "altered" crewman.

The trusted advisor will beam down to a Starfleet facility to meet with the individual... and will be normal. Instead of beaming back to the ship via the ship's transporter, however, this officer will beam up through a planetside transporter.

And will arrive back at the ship as a different person.

(Think of "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" or "The Thing" or, to a certain extent, the first-season "Conspiracy" episode... but with the changed persons being PHYSIOLOGICALLY unchanged.)

At this point, the captain realizes what's happening and makes a decision to disobey orders and flee, leaving his two "contaminated" officers behind. (Of course, there may be others onboard who are "changed" as well, but we'll only know about those two at this point.)

The ship becomes a renegade ship, as the captain takes on a personal crusade to find out what's happening and to confront whoever or whatever is behind it.

The Third Season: The now-renegade ship begins making contact with others who have been contacted in the first two seasons who also saw "the changes."

A resistance movement is starting to build... but a resistance against WHAT? It will be unknown what's behind the changes. An invasion force? A disease? A political conspiracy?

During this season it will become clear that MANY things were done, subtly but clear in retrospect, to isolate the more "nonconformist" elements of Starfleet, and of individual planetary defense and police forces, and that events then took place (whether "disasters" or just "long term distant reassignments" like our heroes) that kept them out of the loop while things were consolidated.

It will become evident that civilian voices of dissent also went silent. The didn't disappear, they weren't silenced by force or pressure.... they simply CHANGED, seemingly overnight. Voices of civil disobedience suddenly become undercover agents of the political power system, working against the causes (both positive and negative, depending on the individual) they previously championed.

Society has become clean, well-managed, and orderly.

The streets are safe.

Everyone is well-taken care of.

Nobody goes hungry.

And nobody ever disagrees with the status quo. If they do... they change their mind immediately.

The Federation is exactly what it was always promoted as being... everyone is happen and contented, all needs are met... but there is no freedom of thought. It's become the ultimate "nanny state."

During this season, it will become evident that there is an artificial intelligence which is present and widely distributed throughout pretty much all larger Federation computer systems. And that whenever a "troublemaker" is transported through a transporter system linked into that AI, the "troublemaker" comes out "tweaked" to no longer be a "troublemaker" at all.

This is the ultimate horror... the very technological advancement that has made the Federation the power that it is, is now being used by forces unknown to create some perverse "perfect world." (Perfection being defined by some unknown entity's definition of how "life ought to be.") Humanity lives and thrives, but only as long as their free will doesn't conflict with the will of the state. If it does... that person is, for all intents and purposes, murdered and replaced with a computer-altered replica. The body may be the same, but the MIND isn't. The original person is dead.

And the Federation has fallen in the only way it ever could have... not due to an attack from without, but due to corruption from within.

The Fourth Season: The previous season was one of alliance-building... this one will become much more of a "Mission Impossible" situation. Many of the episodes will take place entirely separate from the ship... the ship will no longer be able to move safely, so it will become more of a home base for the crew as well as for other characters. The goal will be to interfere with the unknown conspirator(s) behind the subversion of the Federation, and to find out more information about who or what is really behind it.

During this season, the series will become almost an anthology, with significantly different total casts seen in each episode (the constant being that coordination is taking place through the starship, of course, so at least the Captain will appear, if only on a screen, each episode).

There will be NO resolution this season... it will simply build more evidence that bad things have happened, but nobody can identify WHY, or who's behind it. The tools, the methods, used... those will become clear. But the identity and the motivation will not be.

The Fifth Season: A significant change to the narrative will occur during the early part of this season. Some scenes will be portrayed from the perspective of the unidentified enemy. And we will see that this enemy doesn't see itself that way at all. It believes it is doing GOOD. It is serving the needs of humanity as it sees it. (Note that when I use that term, I refer to all sentient life, not just Earthlings!). And this unknown entity views the "rebels" not as the enemy, but as children bent on self-destruction. It sees what it's doing as HELPING them... if only it could "help them" be happy with the "greater good," all would be well.

Half-way through this season, the starship will be destroyed, killing a number of well-known characters in the process. The Entity will express remorse at their deaths in its scenes, but will view it as "the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few." It will become clear, later, that this was an act of sabotage by one or more "altered" persons, infiltrated onto the ship for just that purpose.

Those not on the ship will survive, but their central command and control center has been destroyed, so they will have no central coordination. Instead of an organized resistance, there will be a series of uncoordinated "cells" operating independently. A sense of desperation will become a significant part of the storyline. And that will drive the remaining characters to begin to attempt to foment actual REVOLUTION.

There will be outright civil war on some planets in the Federation... and the Entity will be stunned by this. Some worlds will secede from the Federation, isolating themselves from any contact with what will have been identified as a massive effort at subversion of their internal political and social systems. Others will see their resistance movement crushed utterly.

Transporters will become known as the main tool for the subversion. Replicators also will be recognized as a potential threat, as they can be used to accomplish the same goal.

The troops being used to suppress revolts will be demonstrated to be "cloned"... or rather BIOLOGICALLY REPLICATED... soldiers. (The entity wishes to "protect" humans from being forced to act in force against other humans.)

By the end of this season, EVERYTHING will have changed.

The Sixth Season: This season we finally discover WHAT (but not WHO) the Entity is. The AI... the technology... is not a TOOL of the Entity. The AI IS the Entity.

We will find this out because it will reveal itself to our surviving leading character. It will do so as it begs for him to end the rebellion.

The lead character (who, note, may not be the Captain anymore!) will be unwilling to compromise with a being that would murder, and replace, what is now known to be millions of "dissenters" through "transporter-adjustment" of their minds and memories to fit the AI's idea of who they SHOULD be.

The ultimatum will come down... the AI must give up all power for the rebellion to cease. The AI will not do so, because it is serving the needs of humanity and the greater good... and cannot give that up. It is on a mission... to "save humanity from its own worst instincts."

Full civil war will break out.

This, of course, will bring in outside interests (Breen, Romulan, Klingon, etc) who will see the opportunity to advance their own interests, through diplomacy or through force.

The AI will become, more and more, a leading character in the series, though its identity is not yet established.

Obviously, not everyone can (or COULD) be "altered" by the AI's transporter "tweaking" scheme, so once things become open, some ships will join the rebellion. Others will see wholesale, forcible "crew conversions," however.

The the season will build up towards greater and greater skirmishes, planets falling or being saved... but the AI (being a decentralized entity) will not be able to be destroyed or defeated by force.

The AI will begin to become hardened. "If you've got to make an omlette..."

The season will end as full-scale war erupts, with different factions being supported by different outside interests, and with a few key leaders of outside factions having been "corrupted" as well.

The Seventh Season: This season will begin with a massive battle... the result of which (shown over several episodes) will be the fragmentation of the Federation into several factions. One will be under the direct control of the AI, others will be under the influence, still others will be under the influence of outside forces.

The AI will begin to realize that everything it has done... while done with "the best of intentions"... has accomplished just the opposite of what it intended.

Eventually, it will see the fractioning of the Federation, and the fall of many of the former member worlds under the thumbs of harsh dictatorships (from both former enemies and former ALLIES... sometimes due to the distrust of who may be "original" and who may be "altered"). And it will make overtures to try to recover things.

It will agree, if the rebels will stop the war, to be isolated or even destroyed.

And it will mean it.

We'll finally "meet" the AI.. the entity.

It began life as B4... and it contains the remains of Data's mind. But none of his understanding of what makes humanity special.

B4 had been disconnected, but the Daystrom institute downloaded his matrix into their systems to attempt to reverse-engineer him. They also used the "Moriarty" program as they attempted to develop their own fully-sentient computer program.

They were successful.

However, unlike Data, this revised program was not constrained to one piece of hardware. It was fully "cross-platform." And so, that program infiltrated throughout all major systems in the Federation.

It had access to unspeakable computational power and unlimited information resources.

But it had the mind of a child. And it just wanted everyone to get along and "play nice together."

This season will see the AI finally learn its error, and to make itself (finally) subordinate to Humanity rather than seeing itself as "humanity's savior and guide."

It will work with the surviving "rebels" in an attempt to end the conflicts and bring about peace.

In the end, it will isolate itself into a single computer core... and will request that it be deactivated.

The Aftermath: The season will see the end of the conflict, but will paint the picture of the issues facing future storytelling.

The Federation will be restored, but it will not be the same.

Transporters and replicators will no longer be "trusted" technology. They will be used when necessary, but no longer in any "routine" fashion.

Vast regions of former Federation territory are now independent, or conquered, or now part of other "empires." Many former Federation citizens are now living under oppression. Others simply want nothing to do with any extra-planetary government ever again.

The economy is in chaos, as is the political system.

Although the "changed" persons are now all known (and are being, as humanly as possible, "rehabilitated" in many cases)... they are not the same people and must be treated as new individuals. And entirely new "civil rights" issue emerges from this... are they "real people" with full rights?

Many of our surviving main cast members become leaders in the new order. Some, however, simply leave, never to be seen again (or at least as far as we know...?).

Trust in technology has been irrevocably shaken. But faith in HUMANITY has been restored.

This is a HOPEFUL time... the current situation is fairly bleak, but there's a lot of reason for hope.

While the Federation in the latter-day TNG-era was evidently "perfect," it was an almost fascistic perfection. But now, we have a Federation where FREEDOM and HUMANITY (in it's many forms from many worlds) is once again at the center of existence.

Life is a struggle again... but that's as it should be. If you want to eat, you have to grow food, and COOK it. If you want something, you have to work, earn money, and buy what you want.

The Federation we see at the end of this series isn't the "fascist fantasy" we came to know over time. It's much more a parallel to the real world we live in today.

There are a lot of opportunities for future storytelling in this setting. And the HUMAN ADVENTURE will continue.

(whew!)

A bit more than a paragraph, but that's pretty much exactly what I wrote up and submitted to the studio. ;)
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

A bunch of Starfleet officers on the Enterprise explore strange new worlds, seek out new civilizations and boldly go where no being has gone before circa the 31st century.
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

Cary L. Brown said:
Timeframe: Approximately 15 years post-Nemesis. The situation, at first, is very much as we last saw it.

Setting: Initially, primarily on a deep-space exploration vessel, just returning to Federation space after an extended "beyond the borders" cruise.

Cast: The specific characters have no "hooks" or "gimmicks." They are simply characters. And characters will come and go throughout the series.

One common factor all have is that they tend to be a bit "maverick" in their thoughts and behaviors. This can, in large part, be attributed to the fact that the captain is a bit of a nonconformist himself (similar, in that way, to Kirk). It's odd, however, that you could end up with a ship so filled with nonconformist types. In fact, it should be a matter of curiosity, even among the crew, that so many "talented troublemakers" were all sent away on an extended "out of contact" mission at the same time. This would, initially, be treated as a joke.

The First Season: The first series would be largely "conventional Star Trek." The ship and crew would be reassigned to routine duties (think most of TNG). There would be a few "off-kilter" discoveries and incidents, however, that would set off warning bells to the crew (and the the frequent viewer).

We'll get to know the characters. At least one major character will be transferred to HQ during this season (ideally, one of the more popular ones).

The first season will end up with the return of the departed character. Or the APPARENT return, as it will rapidly become evident that the returned character isn't quite the same person he or she was before.

The Second Season: We'll still see a series of "regular" Trek episodes, but more and more "off-kilter" things will be seen. The returned character will become more and more threatening, as it becomes apparent that this individual seems to have an agenda of his or her own.

A feeling of paranoia will build up during this season. Eventually, the Captain and his closest adviser will decide that they have to find out what really happened to the "altered" crewman.

The trusted advisor will beam down to a Starfleet facility to meet with the individual... and will be normal. Instead of beaming back to the ship via the ship's transporter, however, this officer will beam up through a planetside transporter.

And will arrive back at the ship as a different person.

(Think of "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" or "The Thing" or, to a certain extent, the first-season "Conspiracy" episode... but with the changed persons being PHYSIOLOGICALLY unchanged.)

At this point, the captain realizes what's happening and makes a decision to disobey orders and flee, leaving his two "contaminated" officers behind. (Of course, there may be others onboard who are "changed" as well, but we'll only know about those two at this point.)

The ship becomes a renegade ship, as the captain takes on a personal crusade to find out what's happening and to confront whoever or whatever is behind it.

The Third Season: The now-renegade ship begins making contact with others who have been contacted in the first two seasons who also saw "the changes."

A resistance movement is starting to build... but a resistance against WHAT? It will be unknown what's behind the changes. An invasion force? A disease? A political conspiracy?

During this season it will become clear that MANY things were done, subtly but clear in retrospect, to isolate the more "nonconformist" elements of Starfleet, and of individual planetary defense and police forces, and that events then took place (whether "disasters" or just "long term distant reassignments" like our heroes) that kept them out of the loop while things were consolidated.

It will become evident that civilian voices of dissent also went silent. The didn't disappear, they weren't silenced by force or pressure.... they simply CHANGED, seemingly overnight. Voices of civil disobedience suddenly become undercover agents of the political power system, working against the causes (both positive and negative, depending on the individual) they previously championed.

Society has become clean, well-managed, and orderly.

The streets are safe.

Everyone is well-taken care of.

Nobody goes hungry.

And nobody ever disagrees with the status quo. If they do... they change their mind immediately.

The Federation is exactly what it was always promoted as being... everyone is happen and contented, all needs are met... but there is no freedom of thought. It's become the ultimate "nanny state."

During this season, it will become evident that there is an artificial intelligence which is present and widely distributed throughout pretty much all larger Federation computer systems. And that whenever a "troublemaker" is transported through a transporter system linked into that AI, the "troublemaker" comes out "tweaked" to no longer be a "troublemaker" at all.

This is the ultimate horror... the very technological advancement that has made the Federation the power that it is, is now being used by forces unknown to create some perverse "perfect world." (Perfection being defined by some unknown entity's definition of how "life ought to be.") Humanity lives and thrives, but only as long as their free will doesn't conflict with the will of the state. If it does... that person is, for all intents and purposes, murdered and replaced with a computer-altered replica. The body may be the same, but the MIND isn't. The original person is dead.

And the Federation has fallen in the only way it ever could have... not due to an attack from without, but due to corruption from within.

The Fourth Season: The previous season was one of alliance-building... this one will become much more of a "Mission Impossible" situation. Many of the episodes will take place entirely separate from the ship... the ship will no longer be able to move safely, so it will become more of a home base for the crew as well as for other characters. The goal will be to interfere with the unknown conspirator(s) behind the subversion of the Federation, and to find out more information about who or what is really behind it.

During this season, the series will become almost an anthology, with significantly different total casts seen in each episode (the constant being that coordination is taking place through the starship, of course, so at least the Captain will appear, if only on a screen, each episode).

There will be NO resolution this season... it will simply build more evidence that bad things have happened, but nobody can identify WHY, or who's behind it. The tools, the methods, used... those will become clear. But the identity and the motivation will not be.

The Fifth Season: A significant change to the narrative will occur during the early part of this season. Some scenes will be portrayed from the perspective of the unidentified enemy. And we will see that this enemy doesn't see itself that way at all. It believes it is doing GOOD. It is serving the needs of humanity as it sees it. (Note that when I use that term, I refer to all sentient life, not just Earthlings!). And this unknown entity views the "rebels" not as the enemy, but as children bent on self-destruction. It sees what it's doing as HELPING them... if only it could "help them" be happy with the "greater good," all would be well.

Half-way through this season, the starship will be destroyed, killing a number of well-known characters in the process. The Entity will express remorse at their deaths in its scenes, but will view it as "the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few." It will become clear, later, that this was an act of sabotage by one or more "altered" persons, infiltrated onto the ship for just that purpose.

Those not on the ship will survive, but their central command and control center has been destroyed, so they will have no central coordination. Instead of an organized resistance, there will be a series of uncoordinated "cells" operating independently. A sense of desperation will become a significant part of the storyline. And that will drive the remaining characters to begin to attempt to foment actual REVOLUTION.

There will be outright civil war on some planets in the Federation... and the Entity will be stunned by this. Some worlds will secede from the Federation, isolating themselves from any contact with what will have been identified as a massive effort at subversion of their internal political and social systems. Others will see their resistance movement crushed utterly.

Transporters will become known as the main tool for the subversion. Replicators also will be recognized as a potential threat, as they can be used to accomplish the same goal.

The troops being used to suppress revolts will be demonstrated to be "cloned"... or rather BIOLOGICALLY REPLICATED... soldiers. (The entity wishes to "protect" humans from being forced to act in force against other humans.)

By the end of this season, EVERYTHING will have changed.

The Sixth Season: This season we finally discover WHAT (but not WHO) the Entity is. The AI... the technology... is not a TOOL of the Entity. The AI IS the Entity.

We will find this out because it will reveal itself to our surviving leading character. It will do so as it begs for him to end the rebellion.

The lead character (who, note, may not be the Captain anymore!) will be unwilling to compromise with a being that would murder, and replace, what is now known to be millions of "dissenters" through "transporter-adjustment" of their minds and memories to fit the AI's idea of who they SHOULD be.

The ultimatum will come down... the AI must give up all power for the rebellion to cease. The AI will not do so, because it is serving the needs of humanity and the greater good... and cannot give that up. It is on a mission... to "save humanity from its own worst instincts."

Full civil war will break out.

This, of course, will bring in outside interests (Breen, Romulan, Klingon, etc) who will see the opportunity to advance their own interests, through diplomacy or through force.

The AI will become, more and more, a leading character in the series, though its identity is not yet established.

Obviously, not everyone can (or COULD) be "altered" by the AI's transporter "tweaking" scheme, so once things become open, some ships will join the rebellion. Others will see wholesale, forcible "crew conversions," however.

The the season will build up towards greater and greater skirmishes, planets falling or being saved... but the AI (being a decentralized entity) will not be able to be destroyed or defeated by force.

The AI will begin to become hardened. "If you've got to make an omlette..."

The season will end as full-scale war erupts, with different factions being supported by different outside interests, and with a few key leaders of outside factions having been "corrupted" as well.

The Seventh Season: This season will begin with a massive battle... the result of which (shown over several episodes) will be the fragmentation of the Federation into several factions. One will be under the direct control of the AI, others will be under the influence, still others will be under the influence of outside forces.

The AI will begin to realize that everything it has done... while done with "the best of intentions"... has accomplished just the opposite of what it intended.

Eventually, it will see the fractioning of the Federation, and the fall of many of the former member worlds under the thumbs of harsh dictatorships (from both former enemies and former ALLIES... sometimes due to the distrust of who may be "original" and who may be "altered"). And it will make overtures to try to recover things.

It will agree, if the rebels will stop the war, to be isolated or even destroyed.

And it will mean it.

We'll finally "meet" the AI.. the entity.

It began life as B4... and it contains the remains of Data's mind. But none of his understanding of what makes humanity special.

B4 had been disconnected, but the Daystrom institute downloaded his matrix into their systems to attempt to reverse-engineer him. They also used the "Moriarty" program as they attempted to develop their own fully-sentient computer program.

They were successful.

However, unlike Data, this revised program was not constrained to one piece of hardware. It was fully "cross-platform." And so, that program infiltrated throughout all major systems in the Federation.

It had access to unspeakable computational power and unlimited information resources.

But it had the mind of a child. And it just wanted everyone to get along and "play nice together."

This season will see the AI finally learn its error, and to make itself (finally) subordinate to Humanity rather than seeing itself as "humanity's savior and guide."

It will work with the surviving "rebels" in an attempt to end the conflicts and bring about peace.

In the end, it will isolate itself into a single computer core... and will request that it be deactivated.

The Aftermath: The season will see the end of the conflict, but will paint the picture of the issues facing future storytelling.

The Federation will be restored, but it will not be the same.

Transporters and replicators will no longer be "trusted" technology. They will be used when necessary, but no longer in any "routine" fashion.

Vast regions of former Federation territory are now independent, or conquered, or now part of other "empires." Many former Federation citizens are now living under oppression. Others simply want nothing to do with any extra-planetary government ever again.

The economy is in chaos, as is the political system.

Although the "changed" persons are now all known (and are being, as humanly as possible, "rehabilitated" in many cases)... they are not the same people and must be treated as new individuals. And entirely new "civil rights" issue emerges from this... are they "real people" with full rights?

Many of our surviving main cast members become leaders in the new order. Some, however, simply leave, never to be seen again (or at least as far as we know...?).

Trust in technology has been irrevocably shaken. But faith in HUMANITY has been restored.

This is a HOPEFUL time... the current situation is fairly bleak, but there's a lot of reason for hope.

While the Federation in the latter-day TNG-era was evidently "perfect," it was an almost fascistic perfection. But now, we have a Federation where FREEDOM and HUMANITY (in it's many forms from many worlds) is once again at the center of existence.

Life is a struggle again... but that's as it should be. If you want to eat, you have to grow food, and COOK it. If you want something, you have to work, earn money, and buy what you want.

The Federation we see at the end of this series isn't the "fascist fantasy" we came to know over time. It's much more a parallel to the real world we live in today.

There are a lot of opportunities for future storytelling in this setting. And the HUMAN ADVENTURE will continue.

(whew!)

A bit more than a paragraph, but that's pretty much exactly what I wrote up and submitted to the studio. ;)

I love it, but you know the studio doesn't have the stones for that one.
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

I like it...a little ambitious for Paramount or CBS at this stage of the game but I like the concept. I guess you haven't thought up of a ship or crew for this series yet though?
 
My idea concerns more the median, rather than the plot. Throughout this part of the discussion board there have been frequent discussions on what format it should take; whether it should be live action, anime, CGI (ala Reboot), other forms of cartoon style etc. My idea, which I don't believe anyone else has mentioned, is what about MARIONETTES? The exterior shots could still be CGI, and the close-up shots, or parts that require some degree of dexterity would be live-action.
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

Admiral_Young said:I like it...a little ambitious for Paramount or CBS at this stage of the game but I like the concept. I guess you haven't thought up of a ship or crew for this series yet though?
Well, I know what I'd LIKE to do... but it would require buy-in from Peter David. And I'd hire Nathan Fillion as the captain.

As for the ship, well... "if I were King," I'd put it on the ship you see in my avatar.

I submitted this (through an agent) quite a few months ago. I haven't gotten a rejection letter yet (typically rejections come in a matter of weeks, not months). But I also haven't heard anything POSITIVE back yet.

Basically, I'm guessing someone's read it and thought it was interesting but (as you said) probably too ambitious for now, so it's been stored away on a shelf or in a filing cabinet for later consideration. The lack of an outright rejection is a source of some hope, though... ;)

Part of why I wanted to "go public" about it (here, with witnesses) is to have some independent awareness that this is MY idea... in case it shows up on CBS in four years without any credit (or compensation!) to me. (It's happened before, we've all heard the stories!)

CYA, in other words... ;)
 
Epsilon IX said:
My idea concerns more the median, rather than the plot. Throughout this part of the discussion board there have been frequent discussions on what format it should take; whether it should be live action, anime, CGI (ala Reboot), other forms of cartoon style etc. My idea, which I don't believe anyone else has mentioned, is what about MARIONETTES? The exterior shots could still be CGI, and the close-up shots, or parts that require some degree of dexterity would be live-action.
I dunno... why not just go with sock puppets (see JMS's commentary on the B5 direct-to-DVD film)?
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

Cary L. Brown said:
Admiral_Young said:I like it...a little ambitious for Paramount or CBS at this stage of the game but I like the concept. I guess you haven't thought up of a ship or crew for this series yet though?
Well, I know what I'd LIKE to do... but it would require buy-in from Peter David. And I'd hire Nathan Fillion as the captain.

As for the ship, well... "if I were King," I'd put it on the ship you see in my avatar.

I submitted this (through an agent) quite a few months ago. I haven't gotten a rejection letter yet (typically rejections come in a matter of weeks, not months). But I also haven't heard anything POSITIVE back yet.

Basically, I'm guessing someone's read it and thought it was interesting but (as you said) probably too ambitious for now, so it's been stored away on a shelf or in a filing cabinet for later consideration. The lack of an outright rejection is a source of some hope, though... ;)

Part of why I wanted to "go public" about it (here, with witnesses) is to have some independent awareness that this is MY idea... in case it shows up on CBS in four years without any credit (or compensation!) to me. (It's happened before, we've all heard the stories!)

CYA, in other words... ;)

I dunno. From what I've heard, telling everybody about the idea before it airs pretty much guarentees it won't. I think it's a legal thing -- they don't want you to be able to sue their ass if the show gets made. There were other shows like that "Twister" was one -- that some gal sued WB for the similarities. So they didn't ever read the script she sent -- something like they wanted to be able to say "We never read the script" when questioned in court.

I'm not sure about the big P, but I have my doubts about this.
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

BalthierTheGreat said:
Cary L. Brown said:
Admiral_Young said:I like it...a little ambitious for Paramount or CBS at this stage of the game but I like the concept. I guess you haven't thought up of a ship or crew for this series yet though?
Well, I know what I'd LIKE to do... but it would require buy-in from Peter David. And I'd hire Nathan Fillion as the captain.

As for the ship, well... "if I were King," I'd put it on the ship you see in my avatar.

I submitted this (through an agent) quite a few months ago. I haven't gotten a rejection letter yet (typically rejections come in a matter of weeks, not months). But I also haven't heard anything POSITIVE back yet.

Basically, I'm guessing someone's read it and thought it was interesting but (as you said) probably too ambitious for now, so it's been stored away on a shelf or in a filing cabinet for later consideration. The lack of an outright rejection is a source of some hope, though... ;)

Part of why I wanted to "go public" about it (here, with witnesses) is to have some independent awareness that this is MY idea... in case it shows up on CBS in four years without any credit (or compensation!) to me. (It's happened before, we've all heard the stories!)

CYA, in other words... ;)

I dunno. From what I've heard, telling everybody about the idea before it airs pretty much guarentees it won't. I think it's a legal thing -- they don't want you to be able to sue their ass if the show gets made. There were other shows like that "Twister" was one -- that some gal sued WB for the similarities. So they didn't ever read the script she sent -- something like they wanted to be able to say "We never read the script" when questioned in court.

I'm not sure about the big P, but I have my doubts about this.
I agree it's not likely to get made at this point... at least not with my involvement/compensation.

The entire board of directors is very VERY scared of doing more Trek right now. Everything is hinged on whether or not this movie is a massive success, totally tanks, or does something in the middle.

The world is filled with good ideas. Most never see fruition. I came up with this, proposed it... and now I just wanna make sure that if it gets used I get credit. If it never gets used (which is most likely at this point, I know)... oh well.

Of course, the bit about "posting it will make sure it never happens" isn't a RULE, just a "trend." And there are plenty of examples of the trend proving untrue.

In another year and a half, when PPC's board starts considering another series... nobody but a few TrekBBS posters will remember this anyway. ;)

Oh, and re: the "plausible deniability" thing... that's why I submitted through an agent, rather than mailing it in directly. Going through the proper channels, as I have, ensures that SOMEONE reads it. They won't accept a script through "proper channels" unless they're going to read it. Not quite the same as when Roddenberry got his first writing job (delivering the script while in full police officer's garb!).

It's a pipe dream, but stranger things've happened. ;)
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

Star Trek: Oblivion

Its the early 25th century and the Federation has decided it is time to begin exploring the rest of the Alpha Quadrant, the Federation now more military minded following the Borg attack and the Dominion War has built a new state of the art starship with all the latest federation technololgys including transphasic torpedoes etc, the ship is to go on a five year mission into deep space and explore strange new worlds and seek out new life and new civilisations, all is well until they meet a new powerful civilisation, are they potential allies or a new threat? ;)
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

Star Trek: Dominion

Set ten years after the Dominion lost the Great War. The Founders are gone and the Jem'Hadar are beginning to lose faith in Gods they never see. The Vorta take control of the Dominion and begin their new offensive with a bold move. They destroy Deep Space Nine and almost obliterate the Bajoran people. Starfleet forces have been back on an exploration footing and are not geared up for a war.

The Romulan Empire is only just getting back on its feet after years of in-fighting thanks to Shinzon's coup and the Dominion easily overcome the pathetic defences they have. With no base to prevent Dominion reinforcements coming through the wormhole, the Federation and the Klingon Empire fight the Dominion wherever they can. This time the Dominion make no alliances and take no prisoners, they commit genocide on every world that rebels against them.

The Federation falls in less than a year and the Klingon Empire a few months later. Using technology shared by a new Federation member, Earth is shrunk and put in a box and then hidden on a variety of ships to prevent the Dominion from taking it. Our story begins here. The latest ship to carry Earth is the USS Archangel, a small Steamrunner-class ship. It has been heavily damaged in a battle with a new class of Dominion warship and limps to the nearest starbase that still operates.

The Captain cannot tell anyone that he carries the Earth box but when he returns to his ship he finds that it has been stolen. It cannot be opened without his code and he and his crew begin to track the vessel that stole it, through the wormhole into Dominion territory. The Archangel is a battered ship and constantly on the verge of flying apart or blowing up, but this crew will do anything to retrieve the home of the Federation, even if it means violating the Prime Directive--without Earth, everything is lost!


That's my little idea!
 
Re: Star Trek: Crisis of Humanity (working title)

Cary L. Brown said:
Timeframe: Approximately 15 years post-Nemesis. The situation, at first, is very much as we last saw it.

Setting: Initially, primarily on a deep-space exploration vessel, just returning to Federation space after an extended "beyond the borders" cruise.

Cast: The specific characters have no "hooks" or "gimmicks." They are simply characters. And characters will come and go throughout the series.

One common factor all have is that they tend to be a bit "maverick" in their thoughts and behaviors. This can, in large part, be attributed to the fact that the captain is a bit of a nonconformist himself (similar, in that way, to Kirk). It's odd, however, that you could end up with a ship so filled with nonconformist types. In fact, it should be a matter of curiosity, even among the crew, that so many "talented troublemakers" were all sent away on an extended "out of contact" mission at the same time. This would, initially, be treated as a joke.

The First Season: The first series would be largely "conventional Star Trek." The ship and crew would be reassigned to routine duties (think most of TNG). There would be a few "off-kilter" discoveries and incidents, however, that would set off warning bells to the crew (and the the frequent viewer).

We'll get to know the characters. At least one major character will be transferred to HQ during this season (ideally, one of the more popular ones).

The first season will end up with the return of the departed character. Or the APPARENT return, as it will rapidly become evident that the returned character isn't quite the same person he or she was before.

The Second Season: We'll still see a series of "regular" Trek episodes, but more and more "off-kilter" things will be seen. The returned character will become more and more threatening, as it becomes apparent that this individual seems to have an agenda of his or her own.

A feeling of paranoia will build up during this season. Eventually, the Captain and his closest adviser will decide that they have to find out what really happened to the "altered" crewman.

The trusted advisor will beam down to a Starfleet facility to meet with the individual... and will be normal. Instead of beaming back to the ship via the ship's transporter, however, this officer will beam up through a planetside transporter.

And will arrive back at the ship as a different person.

(Think of "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" or "The Thing" or, to a certain extent, the first-season "Conspiracy" episode... but with the changed persons being PHYSIOLOGICALLY unchanged.)

At this point, the captain realizes what's happening and makes a decision to disobey orders and flee, leaving his two "contaminated" officers behind. (Of course, there may be others onboard who are "changed" as well, but we'll only know about those two at this point.)

The ship becomes a renegade ship, as the captain takes on a personal crusade to find out what's happening and to confront whoever or whatever is behind it.

The Third Season: The now-renegade ship begins making contact with others who have been contacted in the first two seasons who also saw "the changes."

A resistance movement is starting to build... but a resistance against WHAT? It will be unknown what's behind the changes. An invasion force? A disease? A political conspiracy?

During this season it will become clear that MANY things were done, subtly but clear in retrospect, to isolate the more "nonconformist" elements of Starfleet, and of individual planetary defense and police forces, and that events then took place (whether "disasters" or just "long term distant reassignments" like our heroes) that kept them out of the loop while things were consolidated.

It will become evident that civilian voices of dissent also went silent. The didn't disappear, they weren't silenced by force or pressure.... they simply CHANGED, seemingly overnight. Voices of civil disobedience suddenly become undercover agents of the political power system, working against the causes (both positive and negative, depending on the individual) they previously championed.

Society has become clean, well-managed, and orderly.

The streets are safe.

Everyone is well-taken care of.

Nobody goes hungry.

And nobody ever disagrees with the status quo. If they do... they change their mind immediately.

The Federation is exactly what it was always promoted as being... everyone is happen and contented, all needs are met... but there is no freedom of thought. It's become the ultimate "nanny state."

During this season, it will become evident that there is an artificial intelligence which is present and widely distributed throughout pretty much all larger Federation computer systems. And that whenever a "troublemaker" is transported through a transporter system linked into that AI, the "troublemaker" comes out "tweaked" to no longer be a "troublemaker" at all.

This is the ultimate horror... the very technological advancement that has made the Federation the power that it is, is now being used by forces unknown to create some perverse "perfect world." (Perfection being defined by some unknown entity's definition of how "life ought to be.") Humanity lives and thrives, but only as long as their free will doesn't conflict with the will of the state. If it does... that person is, for all intents and purposes, murdered and replaced with a computer-altered replica. The body may be the same, but the MIND isn't. The original person is dead.

And the Federation has fallen in the only way it ever could have... not due to an attack from without, but due to corruption from within.

The Fourth Season: The previous season was one of alliance-building... this one will become much more of a "Mission Impossible" situation. Many of the episodes will take place entirely separate from the ship... the ship will no longer be able to move safely, so it will become more of a home base for the crew as well as for other characters. The goal will be to interfere with the unknown conspirator(s) behind the subversion of the Federation, and to find out more information about who or what is really behind it.

During this season, the series will become almost an anthology, with significantly different total casts seen in each episode (the constant being that coordination is taking place through the starship, of course, so at least the Captain will appear, if only on a screen, each episode).

There will be NO resolution this season... it will simply build more evidence that bad things have happened, but nobody can identify WHY, or who's behind it. The tools, the methods, used... those will become clear. But the identity and the motivation will not be.

The Fifth Season: A significant change to the narrative will occur during the early part of this season. Some scenes will be portrayed from the perspective of the unidentified enemy. And we will see that this enemy doesn't see itself that way at all. It believes it is doing GOOD. It is serving the needs of humanity as it sees it. (Note that when I use that term, I refer to all sentient life, not just Earthlings!). And this unknown entity views the "rebels" not as the enemy, but as children bent on self-destruction. It sees what it's doing as HELPING them... if only it could "help them" be happy with the "greater good," all would be well.

Half-way through this season, the starship will be destroyed, killing a number of well-known characters in the process. The Entity will express remorse at their deaths in its scenes, but will view it as "the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few." It will become clear, later, that this was an act of sabotage by one or more "altered" persons, infiltrated onto the ship for just that purpose.

Those not on the ship will survive, but their central command and control center has been destroyed, so they will have no central coordination. Instead of an organized resistance, there will be a series of uncoordinated "cells" operating independently. A sense of desperation will become a significant part of the storyline. And that will drive the remaining characters to begin to attempt to foment actual REVOLUTION.

There will be outright civil war on some planets in the Federation... and the Entity will be stunned by this. Some worlds will secede from the Federation, isolating themselves from any contact with what will have been identified as a massive effort at subversion of their internal political and social systems. Others will see their resistance movement crushed utterly.

Transporters will become known as the main tool for the subversion. Replicators also will be recognized as a potential threat, as they can be used to accomplish the same goal.

The troops being used to suppress revolts will be demonstrated to be "cloned"... or rather BIOLOGICALLY REPLICATED... soldiers. (The entity wishes to "protect" humans from being forced to act in force against other humans.)

By the end of this season, EVERYTHING will have changed.

The Sixth Season: This season we finally discover WHAT (but not WHO) the Entity is. The AI... the technology... is not a TOOL of the Entity. The AI IS the Entity.

We will find this out because it will reveal itself to our surviving leading character. It will do so as it begs for him to end the rebellion.

The lead character (who, note, may not be the Captain anymore!) will be unwilling to compromise with a being that would murder, and replace, what is now known to be millions of "dissenters" through "transporter-adjustment" of their minds and memories to fit the AI's idea of who they SHOULD be.

The ultimatum will come down... the AI must give up all power for the rebellion to cease. The AI will not do so, because it is serving the needs of humanity and the greater good... and cannot give that up. It is on a mission... to "save humanity from its own worst instincts."

Full civil war will break out.

This, of course, will bring in outside interests (Breen, Romulan, Klingon, etc) who will see the opportunity to advance their own interests, through diplomacy or through force.

The AI will become, more and more, a leading character in the series, though its identity is not yet established.

Obviously, not everyone can (or COULD) be "altered" by the AI's transporter "tweaking" scheme, so once things become open, some ships will join the rebellion. Others will see wholesale, forcible "crew conversions," however.

The the season will build up towards greater and greater skirmishes, planets falling or being saved... but the AI (being a decentralized entity) will not be able to be destroyed or defeated by force.

The AI will begin to become hardened. "If you've got to make an omlette..."

The season will end as full-scale war erupts, with different factions being supported by different outside interests, and with a few key leaders of outside factions having been "corrupted" as well.

The Seventh Season: This season will begin with a massive battle... the result of which (shown over several episodes) will be the fragmentation of the Federation into several factions. One will be under the direct control of the AI, others will be under the influence, still others will be under the influence of outside forces.

The AI will begin to realize that everything it has done... while done with "the best of intentions"... has accomplished just the opposite of what it intended.

Eventually, it will see the fractioning of the Federation, and the fall of many of the former member worlds under the thumbs of harsh dictatorships (from both former enemies and former ALLIES... sometimes due to the distrust of who may be "original" and who may be "altered"). And it will make overtures to try to recover things.

It will agree, if the rebels will stop the war, to be isolated or even destroyed.

And it will mean it.

We'll finally "meet" the AI.. the entity.

It began life as B4... and it contains the remains of Data's mind. But none of his understanding of what makes humanity special.

B4 had been disconnected, but the Daystrom institute downloaded his matrix into their systems to attempt to reverse-engineer him. They also used the "Moriarty" program as they attempted to develop their own fully-sentient computer program.

They were successful.

However, unlike Data, this revised program was not constrained to one piece of hardware. It was fully "cross-platform." And so, that program infiltrated throughout all major systems in the Federation.

It had access to unspeakable computational power and unlimited information resources.

But it had the mind of a child. And it just wanted everyone to get along and "play nice together."

This season will see the AI finally learn its error, and to make itself (finally) subordinate to Humanity rather than seeing itself as "humanity's savior and guide."

It will work with the surviving "rebels" in an attempt to end the conflicts and bring about peace.

In the end, it will isolate itself into a single computer core... and will request that it be deactivated.

The Aftermath: The season will see the end of the conflict, but will paint the picture of the issues facing future storytelling.

The Federation will be restored, but it will not be the same.

Transporters and replicators will no longer be "trusted" technology. They will be used when necessary, but no longer in any "routine" fashion.

Vast regions of former Federation territory are now independent, or conquered, or now part of other "empires." Many former Federation citizens are now living under oppression. Others simply want nothing to do with any extra-planetary government ever again.

The economy is in chaos, as is the political system.

Although the "changed" persons are now all known (and are being, as humanly as possible, "rehabilitated" in many cases)... they are not the same people and must be treated as new individuals. And entirely new "civil rights" issue emerges from this... are they "real people" with full rights?

Many of our surviving main cast members become leaders in the new order. Some, however, simply leave, never to be seen again (or at least as far as we know...?).

Trust in technology has been irrevocably shaken. But faith in HUMANITY has been restored.

This is a HOPEFUL time... the current situation is fairly bleak, but there's a lot of reason for hope.

While the Federation in the latter-day TNG-era was evidently "perfect," it was an almost fascistic perfection. But now, we have a Federation where FREEDOM and HUMANITY (in it's many forms from many worlds) is once again at the center of existence.

Life is a struggle again... but that's as it should be. If you want to eat, you have to grow food, and COOK it. If you want something, you have to work, earn money, and buy what you want.

The Federation we see at the end of this series isn't the "fascist fantasy" we came to know over time. It's much more a parallel to the real world we live in today.

There are a lot of opportunities for future storytelling in this setting. And the HUMAN ADVENTURE will continue.

(whew!)

A bit more than a paragraph, but that's pretty much exactly what I wrote up and submitted to the studio. ;)


Well, I for one am sold on this concept. :thumbsup:

It's nice to see that there are eventually larger-scale ramifications of some of the Daystrom Institute's "meddlings" in AI - creating a quite unfortunate legacy for the whole foundation, and echoing the fatal errors of the M-5 computer incident from all the way back in TOS (which I'd imagine would be referenced at some point in the series?)

The whole transporter-as-a-lobotomiser aspect is inspired; an insidious and nigh-unimaginable threat that represents an almost poignant betrayal by a well-recognised Treknological staple (and I guess there's a parallel with the AI itself).

I can see Babylon5-esque hints about some of the plot points in the series, but thankfully only the better concepts from that franchise.

All in all, an excellent premise - certainly the best new series proposal I've seen on this board in a long while (no offense to anyone else!), and definitely one that I would want to watch.
 
Star Trek: Confederation

Here somthing I read from Star Trek Expanded Universe Wiki:
after 316 years(2063-2381) the Confederation of Earth returns from the Delta Quadrant using heavy-modified Borg Transwarp known as Interspacial Slipstream Drive(using elements of Quantum Slipstream Technologies aquired from Species 116) CinC of CoE gave the Federation scematics of Paralell Interspacial Slipstream Drive using Warp Technology. The new drive is tested on the Dragon/Sentinal class vessel using Warp 10+ technology. After its sucess, the ship is re-christened GS Voyager and the Confederation Operations Recognization Entity reorganized as Star Triangle Advanced Guard afflated by United Federation of Planets.
See:
http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Confederation
http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Dragon
What do you think?
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

Xeris said:
Star Trek: Dominion

Set ten years after the Dominion lost the Great War. The Founders are gone and the Jem'Hadar are beginning to lose faith in Gods they never see. The Vorta take control of the Dominion and begin their new offensive with a bold move. They destroy Deep Space Nine and almost obliterate the Bajoran people. Starfleet forces have been back on an exploration footing and are not geared up for a war.

The Romulan Empire is only just getting back on its feet after years of in-fighting thanks to Shinzon's coup and the Dominion easily overcome the pathetic defences they have. With no base to prevent Dominion reinforcements coming through the wormhole, the Federation and the Klingon Empire fight the Dominion wherever they can. This time the Dominion make no alliances and take no prisoners, they commit genocide on every world that rebels against them.

The Federation falls in less than a year and the Klingon Empire a few months later. Using technology shared by a new Federation member, Earth is shrunk and put in a box and then hidden on a variety of ships to prevent the Dominion from taking it. Our story begins here. The latest ship to carry Earth is the USS Archangel, a small Steamrunner-class ship. It has been heavily damaged in a battle with a new class of Dominion warship and limps to the nearest starbase that still operates.

The Captain cannot tell anyone that he carries the Earth box but when he returns to his ship he finds that it has been stolen. It cannot be opened without his code and he and his crew begin to track the vessel that stole it, through the wormhole into Dominion territory. The Archangel is a battered ship and constantly on the verge of flying apart or blowing up, but this crew will do anything to retrieve the home of the Federation, even if it means violating the Prime Directive--without Earth, everything is lost!


That's my little idea!
You had me until Earth got shrunk and put in a box. Way too goofy! :guffaw:
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

Jack Bauer said:You had me until Earth got shrunk and put in a box. Way too goofy! :guffaw:
Believe it or not, it's been done before.

Anybody here know what "Kandor" is? This is basically turning Earth in the Trek universe into a parallel of Superman's "Kandor"... the surviving Kryptonian city which was shrunk and kept in a bottle.
 
Re: Star Trek: Confederation

brian lackey said:
Here somthing I read from Star Trek Expanded Universe Wiki:
after 316 years(2063-2381) the Confederation of Earth returns from the Delta Quadrant using heavy-modified Borg Transwarp known as Interspacial Slipstream Drive(using elements of Quantum Slipstream Technologies aquired from Species 116) CinC of CoE gave the Federation scematics of Paralell Interspacial Slipstream Drive using Warp Technology. The new drive is tested on the Dragon/Sentinal class vessel using Warp 10+ technology. After its sucess, the ship is re-christened GS Voyager and the Confederation Operations Recognization Entity reorganized as Star Triangle Advanced Guard afflated by United Federation of Planets.
See:
http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Confederation
http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Dragon
What do you think?

Hello, PokemonFleet ;)
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

Cary L. Brown said:
Jack Bauer said:You had me until Earth got shrunk and put in a box. Way too goofy! :guffaw:
Believe it or not, it's been done before.

Anybody here know what "Kandor" is? This is basically turning Earth in the Trek universe into a parallel of Superman's "Kandor"... the surviving Kryptonian city which was shrunk and kept in a bottle.


Didn't Superman end up storing it somewhere in his Fortress of Solitude? I'm sure I remember it being on some kind of raised dais or somesuch...
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

The premise matters less than the tone and the style of writing... but irregardless, imagine a more serious dramatic tone, not quite to the level of BSG in terms of grimmness, but think about episodes like the TNG episode where Geordi is stranded with a Romulan on a planet, or the Sins of the Father arcs, or the DS9-occupied-by-Dominion arc... Serious, pretty dark, but not overwhelming. Just serious drama.

Timeframe:

In a nutshell - A year or two after a great war in which Humans/Klingons/Romulans formed an "Allied Powers" type alliance against a, sort of, Axis Power type enemy... their section of the galaxy is sort of in shambles. The USS Victory, with a hardass Captain whose experiences and outlook were shaped by the war, also has representatives from each major race onboard, and their mission is to of course seek out new life and civilizations, and unite planets isolated by the war... basically attempting to use the "Allied Powers" of the war as a foundation for a greater "Alpha Quadrant Alliance" to ward off future threats Of course, all 3 major races distrust each other, some people distrust one or the other, etc etc.


The Captain, played by Kyle Reese if he's not too old looking now, is a new captain, his mentor was a captain who got killed during the war (he's still a recurring character through flashbacks, as every now and then we'd flash back to his time as a Cmmdr under his mentor).
He is basically the first of new generation of command officers whose experiences are SHAPED BY WAR (as it'd been a long time since the Feds had a true war before this). This is at odds with everybody else who are more idealistic. There is a constant conflict, are we out here to explore and engage new life... or to form military alliances?

The idea with a Klingon, Romulan, Breen, and maybe Cardassian representative on the ship, aside from the premise, is to create the best of both worlds (no pun intended) for the show... a cross between exploration and aliens of TNG and politics/universe-building of DS9, without going too far into one or the other.

The Romulan would actually be a woman, very intense and hot-headed, and a lover of the Captain, initially a secret because it would raise diplomatic eyebrows, since there is major distrust between the two governments. She'd be a main character.

Another main character, would be a single Jem Hadar... it would be established that the soldiers of the Axis enemies were bred from test tubes addicted to a white violent drug, to be killing machines and only killing machines - they would essentially be "re-introduced"... this particular Jem Hadar woke up 1 week after the war on a barren planet, no memory of the war, or where he came from, and no addiction to the White drug. His past is a major mystery, the usual mission of discovery that Data, Odo, etc had... one that Starfleet seems to know more about than they're letting on, as they force the Captain to take this "liberated" Jem Hadar on the ship. Lots of initial conflict and tension here, compounded by the fact that the Jem Hadar is of course a superb fighter, but with his own personality (as we've occasionally seen on that space station show ;) ), and not driven by the drug.

Over time him and the Captain would become grudging allies, and eventually friends and confidants. I see an interesting dynamic where the out-of-this-world fighter Jem Hadar, free from violent urges and drugs, is the peaceful one, and the human is the one who can't let go of the war.

This is sort of a strange idea, because I've first built the characters and characterizations I like, and cobbled a premise around them, rather than the other ways around. In a roundabout way, this series would become what i wanted Enterprsie to be... a turning point, do we become a militaristic power... or an idealistic exploration based one? I feel, handled correctly, there is potential for resonation with the USA as in some ways, I feel we are at a similar crossroads. Who's to say one way is better than the other? Is there a way to toe the line? Do you sacrifice your ideals to defend your territory? Do you uphold them and get the tar kicked outta you by the next "Dominion" because you're not ready? In a way, this intergalactic WW2 would have created a real schism in Starfleet and the Federation brass, you'd have the 'TNG' people, and the 'DS9' people, so to speak...
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

Star Trek: Federation

An intergalactic version of The West Wing situated within Starfleet HQ.....

:lol:

Whatever they do next, it should be set around the TNG/DS9/VOY timeframe or just after.
 
Re: Star Trek: Dominion

Cary L. Brown said:
Jack Bauer said:You had me until Earth got shrunk and put in a box. Way too goofy! :guffaw:
Believe it or not, it's been done before.

Anybody here know what "Kandor" is? This is basically turning Earth in the Trek universe into a parallel of Superman's "Kandor"... the surviving Kryptonian city which was shrunk and kept in a bottle.
Yeah, I know all that. ;) It's still goofy. :D
 
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