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Star Trek Law. Star Trek Med. Star Trek Fire.
I've been thinking about that. Part of me thinks it could work whine another part says no. What makes a show Star Trek? Is simply putting a story in that setting with the uniforms, aliens, and treknobabble enough? Could you literally do "A Few Good Men" as Star Trek?

Back in the 90s they did a show called "Mercy Point." It was a scifi ER or Chicago Med. Flopped. Didn't even last the entire season.
 
Yes. Trek has never shied away from scrubbing the serial numbers off a contemporary drama and painting over with "Star Trek."

But how well has it done so? Insurrection was at one point in production described as being based on "Hear of Darkness". It ended up being far from "Apocalypse Now."

On the other hand, SNW just gave us both "Alien" and "Enemy Mine" (which was a remake of "Robinson Crusoe on Mars"). Those were not terrible.
 
But how well has it done so? Insurrection was at one point in production described as being based on "Hear of Darkness". It ended up being far from "Apocalypse Now."

On the other hand, SNW just gave us both "Alien" and "Enemy Mine" (which was a remake of "Robinson Crusoe on Mars"). Those were not terrible.
Aye, there's the rub.
 
“Son, we live in a Federation that has neutral zones —unseen, unspoken—and those zones have to be guarded by people who will never be acknowledged. Who’s going to do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I carry a responsibility you could never begin to fathom. You weep for T'Spagio, and you curse Section 31 in the shadows. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That T'Spagio's death, while tragic, probably preserved entire worlds. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, safeguards the Federation.

You don’t want the truth because, deep down, in places you don’t talk about in your tidy Starfleet reports, you want me in that zone. You need me in that zone. We use words like duty, protocol, and security. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent protecting a civilization that pretends it’s outgrown such things. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to someone who rises and sleeps under the blanket of safety that I provide, and then questions the means by which I provide it. I’d prefer you simply said ‘thank you’ and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phaser and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you’re entitled to.”
 
Star Trek Law. Star Trek Med. Star Trek Fire.

I don't even want to think how Star Trek Fire would work out... At least the first two are conceptually viable, but if Starships are on fire, you're either being fired on or it's time to bail. :lol: And whoops, there go some red shirts.
 
I don't even want to think how Star Trek Fire would work out... At least the first two are conceptually viable, but if Starships are on fire, you're either being fired on or it's time to bail. :lol: And whoops, there go some red shirts.
Here are some sexy shirtless firemen to distract people from thinking...
 
On the other hand, SNW just gave us both "Alien" and "Enemy Mine" (which was a remake of "Robinson Crusoe on Mars"). Those were not terrible.
I wouldn't call Enemy Mine a remake of Robinson Crusoe on Mars. The stories are quite different. The Martian (2015) is also about an astronaut marooned on Mars, but I don't consider it a remake of RCOM.
 
I don't even want to think how Star Trek Fire would work out... At least the first two are conceptually viable, but if Starships are on fire, you're either being fired on or it's time to bail. :lol: And whoops, there go some red shirts.


Each week the hero ship responds to a distress call. Sometimes it's a ship that was attacked and on fire, next it's a colony that was attacked by a space entity, the following week it's a planet being bombed by meteorites.
 
Conflict involving Good versus Evil is easy. Good versus Neutral is difficult, but doable. Good versus Good...now that is the mark of a skilled writer.

This also applies to the court room.
 
I wouldn't call Enemy Mine a remake of Robinson Crusoe on Mars. The stories are quite different. The Martian (2015) is also about an astronaut marooned on Mars, but I don't consider it a remake of RCOM.

"Enemy Mine" also bears a debt to Hell in the Pacific, a 1968 war movie about an American and a Japanese soldier stranded together during World War II . . . .
 
I think the assumption is that the pod (along with Finney's remains) were destroyed by the ion storm, or else lost in the trackless reaches of space.

Like a lot of Trek plotlines, it helps to imagine the Enterprise as an old-time sailing vessel exploring vast, uncharted seas. If man goes overboard in a storm, you're probably not going to be able to retrieve his body.

“Son, we live in a Federation that has neutral zones —unseen, unspoken—and those zones have to be guarded by people who will never be acknowledged. Who’s going to do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I carry a responsibility you could never begin to fathom. You weep for T'Spagio, and you curse Section 31 in the shadows. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That T'Spagio's death, while tragic, probably preserved entire worlds. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, safeguards the Federation.

You don’t want the truth because, deep down, in places you don’t talk about in your tidy Starfleet reports, you want me in that zone. You need me in that zone. We use words like duty, protocol, and security. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent protecting a civilization that pretends it’s outgrown such things. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to someone who rises and sleeps under the blanket of safety that I provide, and then questions the means by which I provide it. I’d prefer you simply said ‘thank you’ and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phaser and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you’re entitled to.”
The trouble is Star Trek's desire to depict the Federation as Perfect. Perfection is rarely attained anywhere, and if it were it would not make for good drama. At least, the adaptation of the Few Good Men speech doesn't really work for Starfleet. (Maybe it would for Section 31.)
 
The trouble is Star Trek's desire to depict the Federation as Perfect. Perfection is rarely attained anywhere, and if it were it would not make for good drama. At least, the adaptation of the Few Good Men speech doesn't really work for Starfleet. (Maybe it would for Section 31.)
That's more the fault of TNG, and of VOY to a degree.

DS9 certainly showed some of the cracks of the Federation... and so does TOS. Certainly with how humans are portrayed in TOS, at least. It's another reason why DS9 was the best spinoff in the franchise and the truest to the spirit of it.
 
“Son, we live in a Federation that has neutral zones —unseen, unspoken—and those zones have to be guarded by people who will never be acknowledged. Who’s going to do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I carry a responsibility you could never begin to fathom. You weep for T'Spagio, and you curse Section 31 in the shadows. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That T'Spagio's death, while tragic, probably preserved entire worlds. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, safeguards the Federation.

You don’t want the truth because, deep down, in places you don’t talk about in your tidy Starfleet reports, you want me in that zone. You need me in that zone. We use words like duty, protocol, and security. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent protecting a civilization that pretends it’s outgrown such things. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to someone who rises and sleeps under the blanket of safety that I provide, and then questions the means by which I provide it. I’d prefer you simply said ‘thank you’ and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phaser and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you’re entitled to.”

Great minds...post on TrekBBS.

I run my ship how I run my ship. You want to investigate me, roll the dice and take your chances. I eat breakfast 80 light-years away from 4000 Cardassians who are trained to kill me. So don't think for one second think you're gonna come down here, flash a position on the flagship, and make me nervous.


Son, we live in a world that has demilitarized zones. And those DMZs have to be guarded by men with phasers. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Picard and you curse me. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: That Picard's death, while tragic, will probably save lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me by that zone. You need me there.


I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. I'd prefer you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to.
 
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