Spoilers Section 31 General Discussion Thread
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S31 is supposed to be a black-ops organization doing anti-Federation values missions that no one knows about.
Except the people who do.
Can neither confirm nor deny.
The modern era in general has forgotten that. Section 31 has been publicly acknowledged in Disco, Lower Decks and Picard. While this movie's flaws are many, its depiction of Section 31 is consistent with the rest of the modern era.
...As well as everyone else who sees that curious little all-or-mostly-black badge on their curious all-black uniforms that nobody else wears, flying around in their curious all-black starships that are kind of Starfleet looking but not, that nobody else flies around in. Curiously...
For a covert organization that should be silently whispering "Fuck off", they sure are loudly screaming, "Look at me!!!" pretty consistently.
Similar to SHIELD in the MCU and the comics, they're the spy organization that plasterers their logo on everything.
They lampshaded that in Captain Marvel and I think Star Trek would do well to do something similar with Section 31. "What? You're with Section 31? You do realize that you're the worst kept secret in Starfleet, right?"
They lampshaded that in Captain Marvel and I think Star Trek would do well to do something similar with Section 31. "What? You're with Section 31? You do realize that you're the worst kept secret in Starfleet, right?"
It makes absolutely no sense that neither people in Starfleet or other intelligence agencies (i.e., the Obsidian Order, Tal Shiar, Klingon intelligence, etc.) would be in the dark about an organization that has their own black combadges and does their mission briefings in the middle of a bar.
Precisely. The people that "wrote" these scripts have absolutely no idea how operators in the real national intelligence communities work. They aren't a bunch of James Bonds running around, flashing smiles and winking at the ladies as they slide on by on the floor, dodging bullets (or phaser beams), single-handedly taking out armies of bad guys. Sadly, the reality is intentionally mundane, which doesn't really make for good television/movies.
Or UNIT in Doctor Who, which in the classic era had a giant sign outside their top secret headquarters.
It's just a thing in franchise media though. For example, in his very first 1930s appearances, Batman drove a nondescript red car that was realistic for undercover work. Nowadays he drives a Batmobile announcing to everyone that Batman is coming (even the supposed realistic Nolan movies feature this), defeating the whole point of stealth.
A red car??? Urban legend has red cars as ones most likely to be targeted by the police!
Plus his insurance was through the roof.A red car??? Urban legend has red cars as ones most likely to be targeted by the police!
How does Batman provide license and registration?
Anystate, USA is very lax.
I give Lower Decks a pass because presumably their existence came out post-Dominion War.
I just have to assume that everyone at the Gotham DMV office knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman and just keeps it on a need-to-know basis.
That's my thinking as well.
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