Secret Invasion: The End - SPOILERS!
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Thespeckledkiwi
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I pretty much gave up on DC after Countdown to 52 and then Countdown to Final Crisis rolled around. Took too long to figure out who the hell these minor characters are...
A Clockwork Lim
Lieutenant Commander
I don't mind DCs "rebooting," especially when it's done to try and bring the stories into the current climate. Which, admittedly, has been rare as of late. Especially when they just resort to what they were a few years prior.
My problem is just the stories they do tell. Particularly with Superman. They're just really, really bad most of the time.
I really appreciate the idea of seeing superheroes as modern gods and mythology. I just wish they'd really go down that route, telling stories that actually tell a story and -- preferably -- some sort of moral lesson. Most of the time it just seems to be a random wankfest with some obscure nobody as the villain and ends up being a punching-fest at the end.
At least a good number of Marvel stories look at the way people react to things with an emphasis on the characters, not the action sequences.
My problem is just the stories they do tell. Particularly with Superman. They're just really, really bad most of the time.
I really appreciate the idea of seeing superheroes as modern gods and mythology. I just wish they'd really go down that route, telling stories that actually tell a story and -- preferably -- some sort of moral lesson. Most of the time it just seems to be a random wankfest with some obscure nobody as the villain and ends up being a punching-fest at the end.
At least a good number of Marvel stories look at the way people react to things with an emphasis on the characters, not the action sequences.
Then there's the part where you have to remember which Flash and which Green Lantern are members of the JLA this week.
Norrin Radd
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Meh. A pox on both their houses.
Thespeckledkiwi
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Well more so on DC...
Both companies are doing too much with the universe concepts and not enough focusing on the individual characters. It's high time crossovers and events were special again. Let's go at least four years with no huge event stories with multiple meaningless tie-ins. As it stands, the characters only get five months at best with stories separate from the crossovers.
DC has fallen in love with their minor characters. Which on one level is good, because in books like Checkmate, Gotham Central or say, Secret Six, you get a look at the DCU universe from a very different and fresh perspective. One of the problems is they also have major events hinge around the actions of these minor characters, who seem lately to be all from Flash's world. And while multiple Green Lanterns make sense, they are after all a police force, I can't keep up with all the speedsters - dead, alive and in between - racing about in those Flash comics I don't read. But there a crap load of them, that I know.
It gets a bit messy.
Bendis is talking out of his ass. Emma hasnt "straddled both lines for a long time" she has been good for close to 20 years.
darkwing_duck1
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No, she's pure evil. She just likes kids.
Hey, Thrall, is it just me or has noone responded to our larger point that Marvel under Jemas (and now JoeyQ) has been putting out mostly garbage for years?
Personally, I think they just need to excise 98% of what they've done since the early part of "Hero's Return" and start over...
No, she's pure evil. She just likes kids.
No, she has been a bona fide good guy for years.
Mainly because you are wrong. Plus Jemas hasnt been involved in the creative side of Marvel for years.
I enjoyed SI for the most part, although it didn't pan out quite like I was expecting. I was expecting something more along the lines of a protracted Skrull entrenchment on Earth, then a super-hero resistance effort with a big final battle finally routing the Skrulls. After all the build-up and secrets and hype, having the whole thing take place in less than a day (Marvel time, of course) seemed a little anti-climactic.
darkwing_duck1
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So not being willing to happily swallow whatever shite Joey Q's Marvel decides to try to feed us = flamebaiting...gotcha!
