So you've never seen any other TV series (especially SF ones) claim that something is impossible only for it turn out not to be that case later?
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So you've never seen any other TV series (especially SF ones) claim that something is impossible only for it turn out not to be that case later?
Yes i've seen shows where the impossible turns out to be possible
"We'll never make it out of this trench!!!"
and sure enough they do
I was just replying to the part of THE's post where to undue something would be like a mediocre soap opera.
Rose was supposedly gone forever then she comes back.
Only a non-fan would be happy to be proven wrong!
Damn your twisted yet sexily incontestable logic!
I knew you'd admit it eventually.Only a non-fan would be happy to be proven wrong!Call it a hunch. I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
Damn your twisted yet sexily incontestable logic!
It's true, I hate Doctor Who. But I hate Babylon 5 more!
I know, same here. In fact I only collect DVDs of shows I hate.
And a result of this is that the emotional impact of any major event becomes essentially wothless. The world would be a pretty boring place if all we ever got were happy endings, as much as if all we ever got were depressing endings. RTD and RDM seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum here and frankly I'd rather Who sat somewhere in the middle.
Could you put this into Finale? I'd like to see this in musical notation.
I don't mind them negating the endings, so long as the story warrants it... Which I can see how the story of Journey's End could warrant it... but it didn't really work in execution.
The more I think about it, the more I can envision a possible shape for the finale.
Tennant has said he wants a "Caves of Androzani"-style exit. That would be an "Androzani"-style exit.
It's what I'd do as a writer.
Given that Wilf is in the episode, and given that there is a book called The Journal of Impossible Things, is it not possible that Donna's memories of the Doctor are triggered?
Donna gained her Doctor-powers through the regeneration meta-crisis. But the Doctor, when he took away her memories, didn't actually solve the threat to Donna's life; he only minimized it. The memories are still there, but the neural pathways were broken by the Doctor's intervention; that's basic, it's how the human mind works. So the book could "spark" the links to reform, putting Donna's life in danger.
Essentially, what the Doctor did in "Journey's End" was a temporary fix. Not a permanent solution.
What if the solution is for the Doctor to take the regeneration meta-crisis to its end?
If the Doctor regenerates, if he sacrifices his body for Donna's life, then perhaps that could take the energy away from Donna and allow her to live with her memories intact, without her mind going kablooey.
Donna gained her Doctor-powers through the regeneration meta-crisis. But the Doctor, when he took away her memories, didn't actually solve the threat to Donna's life; he only minimized it. The memories are still there, but the neural pathways were broken by the Doctor's intervention; that's basic, it's how the human mind works. So the book could "spark" the links to reform, putting Donna's life in danger.
Essentially, what the Doctor did in "Journey's End" was a temporary fix. Not a permanent solution.
What if the solution is for the Doctor to take the regeneration meta-crisis to its end?
If the Doctor regenerates, if he sacrifices his body for Donna's life, then perhaps that could take the energy away from Donna and allow her to live with her memories intact, without her mind going kablooey.
Tennant has said he wants a "Caves of Androzani"-style exit. That would be an "Androzani"-style exit.
It's what I'd do as a writer.
I quite like that idea. Logical and a gives a happier ending to Donna's story. Though to be honest, I'm just happy to see Wilf again. I'd expected him to pop up after he said he'd be watching for the Doctor. It'd be good to see him involved instead of as a bystander, though that may not happen.
The more I think about it, the more I can envision a possible shape for the finale.
Given that Wilf is in the episode, and given that there is a book called The Journal of Impossible Things, is it not possible that Donna's memories of the Doctor are triggered?
Donna gained her Doctor-powers through the regeneration meta-crisis. But the Doctor, when he took away her memories, didn't actually solve the threat to Donna's life; he only minimized it. The memories are still there, but the neural pathways were broken by the Doctor's intervention; that's basic, it's how the human mind works. So the book could "spark" the links to reform, putting Donna's life in danger.
Essentially, what the Doctor did in "Journey's End" was a temporary fix. Not a permanent solution.
What if the solution is for the Doctor to take the regeneration meta-crisis to its end?
If the Doctor regenerates, if he sacrifices his body for Donna's life, then perhaps that could take the energy away from Donna and allow her to live with her memories intact, without her mind going kablooey.
Tennant has said he wants a "Caves of Androzani"-style exit. That would be an "Androzani"-style exit.
It's what I'd do as a writer.
It would be utterly hysterical if Doctor 11 regenerates because he trips over a brick, the way that 10 hoped he didn't in the last Christmas Special.
yep tripping over a brick would be fun
that or he is killed by the sonic screwdriver
enemy: im going to kill you Doctor
Doctor: but ive got the sonic screwdriver, let me just set it to the correct seating
*the enemy holds out a device*
*engery from the sonic screwdriver goes back into the Doctor and kills him forcing a regeneration
11Doctor: wow you reversed the polarity of the neutron flow in the sonic screwdriver, forcing all the energy in it, to flow back into me, killing me & forcing a regeneration.
11Doctor: (looks directly at camera) I guess this time the sonic screwdriver really couldnt get me out of this one
that or he is killed by the sonic screwdriver
enemy: im going to kill you Doctor
Doctor: but ive got the sonic screwdriver, let me just set it to the correct seating
*the enemy holds out a device*
*engery from the sonic screwdriver goes back into the Doctor and kills him forcing a regeneration
11Doctor: wow you reversed the polarity of the neutron flow in the sonic screwdriver, forcing all the energy in it, to flow back into me, killing me & forcing a regeneration.
11Doctor: (looks directly at camera) I guess this time the sonic screwdriver really couldnt get me out of this one
Cool.
One of the best guests from season 4 is back.
Had to double take though.
Could be interesting to see how they do this one. However, i do like Allyn Gibsons theory. Although it is possible for Donna aswel as gramps to return, i hope to god its not a 'Lets all fly the Tardis like a happy family' pish again.
Then again, i suppose if that does happen, 11 can kick their asses out of the Tardis into black cold space to all die and never to be seen again.
EDIT:Yay, after all these years at the BBS im finally a Rear Admiral. Hazzaa to promotions.
One of the best guests from season 4 is back.
Had to double take though.
Could be interesting to see how they do this one. However, i do like Allyn Gibsons theory. Although it is possible for Donna aswel as gramps to return, i hope to god its not a 'Lets all fly the Tardis like a happy family' pish again.
Then again, i suppose if that does happen, 11 can kick their asses out of the Tardis into black cold space to all die and never to be seen again.
EDIT:Yay, after all these years at the BBS im finally a Rear Admiral. Hazzaa to promotions.
Same.
Much like Dereck Jacobi in Utopia. When he turned around to the camer and uttered those four words, i nearly came in my pants. For an actor of such grace, tallent and callibre to steal an entire episode from its lead like Jacobi or Cribbins is a steal, INMHO.
Not necessarily... at least, not obviously.
I have a bad feeling about the 10th Doctor finales, given all the rumours that they'll be another Gang Show ( cheered last year... but once only. Please).
But if written well, a story involving Wilf where they're both horribly aware that they have to keep dim-Donna out of it, could work.
I truly dislike some of RTD's tabloid-feeding tendencies (Rose's 'death')... but sometimes he can do it and get a terrific episode out of it as well (Rose's original exit).
If that's true, then my opinion of The Inside Story just dropped about five notches.
Well, we can add another spoilery reveal for this one:
http://lonemagpie.livejournal.com/378822.html#cutid1
Really, do not click on the link if you don't want to see something - well, someone - *hugely* spoilery walking past Bernard Cribbins on location yesterday...
http://lonemagpie.livejournal.com/378822.html#cutid1
Really, do not click on the link if you don't want to see something - well, someone - *hugely* spoilery walking past Bernard Cribbins on location yesterday...
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