Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by JJ-R, Sep 5, 2012.

  1. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 7, 2001
    On the run.
    Stupid me, my eyes saw Reunion, my brain said Remember Me. What an idiot. :D
  2. MickJo1701

    MickJo1701 Commander Red Shirt

    Oct 30, 2011
    It certainly looks like we're on to a winner here if the guys at CBS D are working on season 4. If true I wonder if they either extended the schedule or expanded the facilities and workforce to accommodate doing more.
  3. NewHorizon

    NewHorizon Captain Captain

    Sep 18, 2006
    Lets hope they have given CBS-D the time and resources needed to do this project justice.

  4. Start Wreck

    Start Wreck Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    May 4, 2005
    ^Is that a screenshot from the Blu-ray? Oh dear. :(
  5. throwback

    throwback Captain Captain

    May 27, 2011
    I love the little red light hanging above the saucer. I feel that is attempting to run behind the saucer in shame.

    The nacelles feel wrong to me. The right and left nacelles feel that they are attached to the pylons at an angle.

    The ship doesn't feel that is in the same space as the planet. It feels to me that the ship is superimposed over a backdrop.
  6. Jaro Stun

    Jaro Stun Captain Captain

    Jan 1, 2003
    Czech republic
    WHAT IS THAT SHOT???? Looks worse than any we have seen so far

    I cant wait for S3 trailer
  7. davejames

    davejames Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 6, 2001
    Sac, Ca
    That must be the same ugly blue planet from before. What ep is that from?
  8. throwback

    throwback Captain Captain

    May 27, 2011
    IIRC, that was Starbase 6, and was from the episode "The Schizoid Man".
  9. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    What the hell is going on on the right edge of this shot?
  10. Flake

    Flake Commodore Commodore

    Dec 23, 2001
    Manchester, UK
    Definite issue with missing grain:

    VFX in shot, like stars in a window etc: NO GRAIN
    no VFX: Normal Grain

    Also sometimes issues with black levels. Sometimes the vfx stars in the window are fully black but then the black in the uniforms or Trois hair are grey instead of black. EDIT: Might be all the time when vfx in shot, like a window. The black of space is correct but uniforms etc are now grey.
  11. ACE

    ACE Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Dec 15, 2004
    It looks as if the frame edge of the Enterprise-D elements ends before the frame edge of the background elements.

    An easy fix for that would have been to reposition the Enterprise-D elements further to the right until the frame edges matched, or to stretch those same elements slightly to the horizontal until the edges met up.

    On a standard def, CRT television, you probably would have never seen this, because the overscan of the picture tube would have masked it off. In high def, where the entire frame is clearly visible to the home viewer, this is inexcusable. Very sloppy.
  12. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    You can still see the window lights right at the edge of the frame if you look close. :guffaw:

    I'll reserve judgement until I view the set. But there's no way it's a 4/5 or 9/10 on video like the review sites keep saying.
  13. jimbotron

    jimbotron Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Nov 27, 2012
    Bay Area, CA
    Wow, that's awful. Will CBS go all the way and redo the effects of season 2 from scratch? I hope so. But it will take a ton of prolonged outrage for that to happen. CBS would definitely have to pull out the checkbook and put out a mea culpa.

    Reviewers obviously aren't going through every episode with a fine-toothed comb, just as before. Which I can understand, but again, what's the point of a review that looks at only 5-10% of the total package?

    You know, you can't really blame HTV for this. CBS apparently expected them to be more competent than they were capable of being. CBS should have known their track record. Dan Curry or no Dan Curry, they were not up to the task. Once again, CBS's rush to get a product out the door at minimum cost has come back to bite them.
  14. Dream

    Dream Admiral Admiral

    Dec 2, 2001
    Hotel Transylvania
    You mean that red light isn't suppose to be Q "watching" the crew of the Enterprise during the whole humanity on trial thing?:devil:
  15. NewHorizon

    NewHorizon Captain Captain

    Sep 18, 2006
    Yep. If your going to take on a project like it once and do it right. In the end you don't save yourself anything by cutting corners.

    Respect the property your working on. Respect the paying customers too. They'll be there patiently waiting when a new Season is finished. Two seasons a year is more than enough, there was no need to try and rush 3 Seasons through.

    It would be great if CBS-Digital were allowed to go back and revamp Season 2 at the end of the project, but I doubt the CBS parent company will allow that. We'll be stuck with this mess for the long haul.
  16. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    While I'll be picking up season two, I'll be sorely disappointed if CBS lets HTV-Illuminate anywhere near TNG again.
  17. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Admiral Premium Member

    Mar 2, 2003
    San Francisco Bay Area, CA
    After last night, it was almost as if I put the picture quality at the end of my reasons for getting this set. I'm not going to allow that to overshadow the other things, like:

    -The Abundance of special features that should have been on the DVD in the first place

    -Measure of a Man extended cut

    -Being a completest

    -Deleted scenes

    -It's TNG, my favorite series

    I do hope this company doesn't do the other seasons because their job was hap-hazard. I think what really bothers me about this is I originally thought the PR about doing this for the fans, putting in a lot of care for this, stuff like that was genuine. If it was so genuine, they would have cut HTV out of it pretty much after the first quality check. Yeah I know they have deadlines, and it was the holiday season (Hey, if you were a company doing this, wouldn't you want to take advantage of the holiday season too?) but Season 2 isn't up to the standards of Season 1 and that's a shame. Add to that the audio issues of season 1 and the whole replacement thing going on, and I have to ask, how genuine are they that they are really doing this for the fans?

    One other thing, why hasn't the price for this come down yet? The season has 3 less episodes than the previous season and that was like $59. I looked on Amazon and even though cyber week and Black Friday, it was still $79. What is going on there?
  18. Scotty

    Scotty Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 26, 2000
    The Netherlands, Les Pays Bas, Holland
    Might this have aomething to do with the fact that the effects elements were shot in 1.33.1 aspect ratio and the image on this set is 1.35.1.?
  19. Timo47

    Timo47 Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 3, 2003
  20. Harvey

    Harvey Admiral Admiral

    Oct 8, 2005
    Los Angeles, California
    At least it's not going to HTV this time. The more I read about that company the more dreadful work I find out about.