La'an appears to be surrounded by zombies or ghosts of either everyone she has lost or everyone the Enterprise has lost. Distinctive white antannae are next to her...
La'an appears to be surrounded by zombies or ghosts of either everyone she has lost or everyone the Enterprise has lost. Distinctive white antannae are next to her...
As others have said, fanzines and letter zines. There is a huge archive of hundreds of excerpts here, which runs through the classic movies:
The semi-pro Trek fan magazine had collections put out in paperback called Best of Trek. Here's an example of someone not being happy with Search For Spock:
Which is funny because by the late 90s there were those in fandom vilifying Berman and demanding he be fired. And not just fired, some even wanted to "court-martial" him for "crimes against Roddenberry." Yes, what I placed in quotations were the exact terms used at the time.
Other than the quality of special effects I don't see any real differences between 90s and present day Trek.
I love seeing the same talking points as are now with "pseudo-Trek." Or now "proper or real Trek" or some variation on how Trek has become something lesser than it was before.
I feel like I'd enjoy hearing even the most bitter Trek takes if they all had to go through an editor to be posted in a zine's letter section.
I think just the idea of time has a lot to do with it too. I love Enterprise, but at the time it aired, I wasn't a fan of Season 3 and didn't watch Season 4 as it was airing. It took me the DVDs to really appreciate what they were trying to do, and now Season 3 is my favorite season of the show. I also found a new appreciation for DS9 through their DVD release in 2003. Part of that is I hadn't seen most of the series since it originally aired, but when you watch something and it's not the center of attention, I think it tends to go down a lot easier. I might try this with Picard season 2, but man I hated that season a lot to the point where I really have to get in the right mood to revisit it.
Really? This to me is like suggesting there isn't much difference between 60s Trek and 90s Trek. However, I don't dislike the differences, because I understand a franchise as old as 60 is just going to inevitably have different approaches when creators come and go. Writing and acting styles evolve over time. I cannot imagine a character like Mariner as performed by Tawney Newsome existing in a Rick Berman production in 1996. This is the guy who said a character giving a high five in modern Trek "doesn't sit right with me", because he's an old fuddy duddy who thinks high fives are too modern, even though they've existed for decades at this point.
I'm Lower Decks' biggest supporter and I don't think she really fits in a live action Trek series in 2026 either. She's a cartoon character, deliberately exaggerated.
Unhelpfully all I can provide for you is it all just feels like Star Trek to me.
She was perfect in the crossover.
What does that tell you about SNW?
Yeah she was actually pretty great in SNW, they nailed that episode.
I was speaking more of the SNW interpretation of the character that couldn’t fit a Rick Berman production. Given their rigid approach to sticking to the script they certainly wouldn’t have allowed her to improvise on the set
I agree that it all feels like Star Trek, but I can definitely see the things that made each era distinctive from each other, beyond the fact that they were shot in different decades.
Looking at things objectively is not a skill in my retinue
It's possible that "reassement" is really just a younger generation coming along with a different opinion than their elders had. My opinions on Voyager haven't changed, but it was the most popular Trek on Netflix, which skews more towards millenials and Gen Z.
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Interesting. I can see how someone who grew up with TOS wouldn't be happy with that ship crashing. Roddenberry didn't like it and it wouldn't surprise me if he was the source of the leak on Spocks Death in TWOK. He didn't like that either.
I remember things like "letters to the editor" but I never read fanzines.
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True. I’m a Millennial in my late 30s, so I definitely understand people of my generation who look back at their childhood in the 90s with certain fondness. We obviously have a very different view of that era of Trek from the Boomer/GenX adults who watched it on original airdates. Probably not too different from how Millennials/GenZ feels about Star Wars prequels.
I was born in 1987, graduated in 2005, so the Rick Berman era pretty much took place in my entire childhood/adolescence. I grew up with that perception that Star Trek was always around, and because of that I took it for granted, dropping out of Enterprise after 9 episodes but thinking there was always gonna be a Star Trek series on air. By the time the first J.J. Abrams film came out, that four year stretch after ENT felt absurdly long only because I had never experienced such a draught of Trek.
Of course, I would not be permitted to attempt to engage with this person in debate, since I didn't watch TOS when it first aired, so not a "true fan".
We know for a fact that GR encouraged Susan Sackett to reveal, at a large UK convention, the initial plan to kill off Spock in the first reel of ST II.
This action caused Bennett and Meyer to rethink and rejig their script. Spock's demise was no longer a surprise. They added the Kobayashi Maru scenario prologue, complete with an obviously fake "death" for Spock -- and then everyone else, except Kirk and Saavik -- which enabled the audience to relax and actually enjoy the movie... until the new, transposed ending began to unfold.
In "Starlog", many years later, Harve Bennett addressed the UK incident and said that he "really should thank that lady" for making his film so much stronger.
Story of my fan experience.course, I would not be permitted to attempt to engage with this person in debate, since I didn't watch TOS when it first aired, so not a "true fan".
Skin looks blue to me, but could be the lighting.
There also appears to be a Klingon behind her.
And someone in a Vulcan uniform with their back to the camera too.
So many questions and so much excitement.
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