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[Rahul]

Part of why ENTERPRISE has been reassessed is that there's those who long for the Rick Berman style production. Fans can be very forgiving when it comes to surface level things, you can see that with the adoration STAR TREK CONTINUES gets. Trek during 1987-2005 basically had a very consistent filmmaking language that established a certain rhythm and cadence when it came to camerawork, dialogue, acting style, etc. That just happens when you have the same dozen people like Livingston, Howard, Lauritson, Rush, etc doing the same shtick for 20 years. It's partly why THE ORVILLE has been embraced by those fans, because MacFarlane reached out to a lot of those Berman era creatives because he wanted to make a show that felt as close as it could to the Rick Berman era.

That's a valid opinion, but I disagree.
ENT became good after it completely re-vamped it's style in season 3 & 4 to a more modern television style (heavily inspired by the then current '24').
If ENT had ended after season 2, it probably would still have some fans (like the Orville - where I 100% agree that it's success is only due to mimicking that 90s-00s Trek style) - but it would be more known as an inferior copy of the earlier Trek series.
Instead the consensus seems to be more on the side of "shame it took so long to get good, when it was already too late - oh and the early stuff also isn't as awful as I remember".

 

[NCC-73515]

Maybe they'll show that the Gorn are actually from Earth too: The ENT and SNW Gorn came from something like raptors (would be a funny connection to Phlox's line), and the TOS Gorn came from something like a T. rex. It would make Arena more interesting too, cause now the Metrons test if cultures from the same planet can find common ground again

 

[Tuskin38]

IIRC they said they're done with the Gorn for the rest of the series.

 

[Jedman67]

That's a valid opinion, but I disagree.
ENT became good after it completely re-vamped it's style in season 3 & 4 to a more modern television style (heavily inspired by the then current '24').
If ENT had ended after season 2, it probably would still have some fans (like the Orville - where I 100% agree that it's success is only due to mimicking that 90s-00s Trek style) - but it would be more known as an inferior copy of the earlier Trek series.
Instead the consensus seems to be more on the side of "shame it took so long to get good, when it was already too late - oh and the early stuff also isn't as awful as I remember".

I never hated ENT. I think it suffered a bit from the same problems as Voyager: a studio who wanted a reset every episode and little to no long term character development (See Tucker, Reed and T'pol somewhat).
It was very hard for characters to evolve and grow long term. S3 and 4 really shook things up, but by that time the studio decided to cancel it after the 4th instead of giving it a final season.

SNW has been remarkably consistent. Not without its missteps, and 6 years for 5 seasons is not the worst considering some of the other shows that go 2-3 years between seasons.

 

[Set Harth]

Looking at things objectively is not a skill in my retinue

the whole squad?

 

[Tuskin38]

and 6 years for 5 seasons is not the worst considering some of the other shows that go 2-3 years between seasons.

Plus the only reason for that extra year was because the writer and actor strikes.

 

[SpockOfNine]

I never hated ENT. I think it suffered a bit from the same problems as Voyager: a studio who wanted a reset every episode and little to no long term character development (See Tucker, Reed and T'pol somewhat).
It was very hard for characters to evolve and grow long term. S3 and 4 really shook things up, but by that time the studio decided to cancel it after the 4th instead of giving it a final season.

SNW has been remarkably consistent. Not without its missteps, and 6 years for 5 seasons is not the worst considering some of the other shows that go 2-3 years between seasons.

S3 and S4 of ENT were so good, especially S4. I think Enterprise would be way more loved if it had three more seasons filled with 2-3 episode mini-arcs like S4.

 

[fireproof78]

Archer is still problematic.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Archer is still problematic.

Oh wait, wrong Archer.

 

[HotRod]

Archer is still problematic.

I love him. He comes off like an astronaut who is in way over his head, but eventually learns and adapts to become an excellent Captain.