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Spoilers Season 3 Episode 6 'Scavengers' promo

This is the first episode written by the new writer/producer Anne Cofell Saunders who previously worked on nuBSG, smallville and few other shows.

Looks like we will finally see the bearded Andorian.
 
This is the first episode written by the new writer/producer Anne Cofell Saunders who previously worked on nuBSG, smallville and few other shows.

Looks like we will finally see the bearded Andorian.
Wow, she wrote the BSG episode Pegasus which is probably my favourite episode from the whole show. Plus it looks like she had a hand in the first season of The Boys. Not bad at all.
 
Noice! That admiral is not as commanding a presence as I'd like, but maybe that's by design.

I'm kinda intrigued you should say that -- so far, Adm Vance has been one of the most sensible Starfleet admirals we've yet seen in any series. He was fairly forthright with Saru and Burnham in 3x05 about why he couldn't trust them and seems to be pretty direct with his captains here. He's not being an a**hole or unnecessarily pompous but he certainly seems to be "in command."

I guess any portrayal is inevitably governed by the way the character is written and the approach the director wants to take. All told, however, that scene seems like the interaction between a leader who knows his senior officers -- and they know him. An admiral briefing a group of senior captains wouldn't have the same dynamic as a sergeant major yelling at a bunch of squaddies.

Oded Fehr is Israeli and presumably served out his required national service time; his Wikipedia entry notes three years in the Israeli Navy so I guess he's got at least some experience on which to base his portrayal of Vance!

I fervently hope the writers steer well clear of all temptation to fall back on the "bad admiral" tropes and just allow Vance to continue to be a competent leader making difficult decisions in hard times. I really think that would be a bad cliche and a big mistake. I'm hopeful they will manage to avoid that!
 
I fervently hope the writers steer well clear of all temptation to fall back on the "bad admiral" tropes and just allow Vance to continue to be a competent leader making difficult decisions in hard times.

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None of this, thank you very much... :p
 
I'm kinda intrigued you should say that -- so far, Adm Vance has been one of the most sensible Starfleet admirals we've yet seen in any series. He was fairly forthright with Saru and Burnham in 3x05 about why he couldn't trust them and seems to be pretty direct with his captains here. He's not being an a**hole or unnecessarily pompous but he certainly seems to be "in command."

I guess any portrayal is inevitably governed by the way the character is written and the approach the director wants to take. All told, however, that scene seems like the interaction between a leader who knows his senior officers -- and they know him. An admiral briefing a group of senior captains wouldn't have the same dynamic as a sergeant major yelling at a bunch of squaddies.

Oded Fehr is Israeli and presumably served out his required national service time; his Wikipedia entry notes three years in the Israeli Navy so I guess he's got at least some experience on which to base his portrayal of Vance!

I fervently hope the writers steer well clear of all temptation to fall back on the "bad admiral" tropes and just allow Vance to continue to be a competent leader making difficult decisions in hard times. I really think that would be a bad cliche and a big mistake. I'm hopeful they will manage to avoid that!
Oded Fehr is an amazing addition. Even if he ends up down the "evil admiral trope" (I doubt it but not blind to the possibility) his presence is excellent.
 
Oded Fehr is an amazing addition. Even if he ends up down the "evil admiral trope" (I doubt it but not blind to the possibility) his presence is excellent.

Yes, I really like his presence and his characterisation of Vance. Good choice -- I hope he lasts as a background character for some time to come, 'cos the other thing that happens with Starfleet admirals is that off they don't go bad, they get killed off ...! :rolleyes:
 
Yes, I really like his presence and his characterisation of Vance. Good choice -- I hope he lasts as a background character for some time to come, 'cos the other thing that happens with Starfleet admirals is that off they don't go bad, they get killed off ...! :rolleyes:
Die a hero or live long enough to become a villain. Never more true than with Starfleet admirals.
 
Why most of the Starfleet officers are still humans when Earth left the Federation? smh
 
Why most of the Starfleet officers are still humans when Earth left the Federation? smh

Per that Enterprise episode with the dead Doctor Who wannabe, perhaps no one is (fully) human. Not Charles Vance, not Cleveland Booker, not Adira the person who says she's human. They're all part-Human at best, descended from generations of hybridization and inbreeding with all the various races. Pure humanoidism just defaults to a baseline that the Humans, Gideons, Ba'ku, Betans (referred to as "Human" in their main episode), and "Time and Again" Aliens all follow.
 
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