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Sci-Fi Endings: The Best and the Worst

I'm not saying THE SHIELD needed a happy ending. But when they hype it as a killer ending, and fill the episodes leading up to the ending with a Presidential visit, foreign terrorists and the FBI, then ignore it and have the characters all kill themselves = BAD.
I didn't give a damn about the President or the foreign terrorists. Hell, I completely forgot they were ever even mentioned. All I wanted to see is the end of the Strike Team, what happens to Shane, and if Claudette manages to finally put Vic behind the bars or if he wiggles his way out again.
 
I didn't even like Enterprise and have to agree that was the worst ending. I can only imagine how I would have felt had I actually LIKED the show! Talk about kicking your loyal fanbase in the nuts, and laughing at them as they writhe in pain.

They made it into a TNG episode! and a mediocre one at that with old fat Riker and Troi! And on top of that, in between episodes, as just another run of the mill day in the holodeck! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
B5's Sleeping in Light and Farscape's Peacekeeper Wars had the best endings. TNG was awesome too. As for worst, I was disappointed with BSG's and DS9's endings.
 
I didn't give a damn about the President or the foreign terrorists. Hell, I completely forgot they were ever even mentioned.

Which is why you keep attacking my complaint about it. You completely forgot THE SHIELD added all these pieces to set something up. The writers forgot too. I did not forget that all these great pieces were spread out over the last bunch of episodes - then forgotten.

It's like they put a smoking gun in the middle of a room that's been fired with a bullet casing and blood spatter, but nobody was shot or missing and then they forget about it.
 
I'm not saying THE SHIELD needed a happy ending. But when they hype it as a killer ending, and fill the episodes leading up to the ending with a Presidential visit, foreign terrorists and the FBI, then ignore it and have the characters all kill themselves = BAD.
I didn't give a damn about the President or the foreign terrorists. Hell, I completely forgot they were ever even mentioned. All I wanted to see is the end of the Strike Team, what happens to Shane, and if Claudette manages to finally put Vic behind the bars or if he wiggles his way out again.

I didn't give a damn about the President or the foreign terrorists. Hell, I completely forgot they were ever even mentioned.

Which is why you keep attacking my complaint about it. You completely forgot THE SHIELD added all these pieces to set something up. The writers forgot too. I did not forget that all these great pieces were spread out over the last bunch of episodes - then forgotten.

It's like they put a smoking gun in the middle of a room that's been fired with a bullet casing and blood spatter, but nobody was shot or missing and then they forget about it.

Guys.... kindly arrest the discussions about "The Shield" and save them for the GTVM forum.
 
I'd say the best would be TNG. "All Good Things..." was a wonderfully deft summation of everything the series was about. Epic and humane, thoughtful and affecting, engaging through both action, character and concept, even managing to intergrate the hommage to its early self within the overall storyline. If ever there was a piece of television I'd call inspiring, this would be it.

Worst, by far, is Battlestar Galactica. Other bad endings will just screw themselves over--"TatV", for instance, is a terrible episode but says little about ENT itself--but Galactica's was so aggressively bad, that it wasn't just internally a steaming pile of crap (both rushed and wasteful, incoherent thematically and in terms of storyline, and just generally the epitome of lazy writing), it retroactively ruined the entire series. I had unwisely pre-ordered the Caprica mini earlier that year, and it has sat unwatched on my shelf lo these many months as I just can't bring myself to forget how terribly "Daylight" screwed everything over to watch anything Galactica-related again.

For another category of superlative, I think the recent threatrical version of King's "The Mist" has to be the most brutal ending of a show/movie I can remember. I call it 'the best movie I never want to see again'.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Worst, by far, is Battlestar Galactica. Other bad endings will just screw themselves over--"TatV", for instance, is a terrible episode but says little about ENT itself--but Galactica's was so aggressively bad, that it wasn't just internally a steaming pile of crap (both rushed and wasteful, incoherent thematically and in terms of storyline, and just generally the epitome of lazy writing), it retroactively ruined the entire series. I had unwisely pre-ordered the Caprica mini earlier that year, and it has sat unwatched on my shelf lo these many months as I just can't bring myself to forget how terribly "Daylight" screwed everything over to watch anything Galactica-related again.


This is precisely how I feel. I haven't touched my Galactica DVDs since Daybreak. It was like a cancer capable of going back in time and ruining every good of Galactica before it.
 
Speaking of tape stopping, when I was taping the finale of Battlestar Galactica, the tape stopped just after the Galactica jumped away from the Cylon base into the direction of Earth and before the scenes taking place on Earth. In the beginning, I was angry that I didn't have enough tape to cover the whole finale but after watching the part I wasn't able to tape, I would have felt better it had ended with the shot of Galactica heading towards Earth leaving it to our imagination what happens next like the Sopranos ending.

There would have been a lot of chest-beating and caterwauling online (to say the least!) but I kinda like this idea.

I also liked the EVERYBODY DIES!!! YARGH!!!! rumored ending. :rommie:

Worst, by far, is Battlestar Galactica. Other bad endings will just screw themselves over--"TatV", for instance, is a terrible episode but says little about ENT itself--but Galactica's was so aggressively bad, that it wasn't just internally a steaming pile of crap (both rushed and wasteful, incoherent thematically and in terms of storyline, and just generally the epitome of lazy writing), it retroactively ruined the entire series.
I figured that BSG's plotline was so incoherent and muddled by that point, there was no ending that could have "worked" so I wasn't expecting much. My total lack of faith in the potential of a good ending was why I like the "leave it to the audience's imagination" and "nihilistic" approaches - non-endings that don't even attempt to wrap anything up.
For another category of superlative, I think the recent threatrical version of King's "The Mist" has to be the most brutal ending of a show/movie I can remember. I call it 'the best movie I never want to see again'.

Not sure if I liked or hated that, but it sure was...memorable. :eek: I read that Stephen King actually wished he'd thought of it himself! That's certainly some kind of endorsement.
 
TV

Best:
TNG
DS9
Space Above and Beyond
Farscape

Worst:
VOY
ENT
Alias
BSG
X-Files

Neutral:
SG-1
SGA
B5
 
TV:

Best:
Farscape, Babylon 5, Jericho, Star Trek TNG, BSG (despite the show sucking for so long beforehand)

Worst:
Enterprise, Stargate SG-1,

Middleground:
X-Files, Angel

Movie:

Best:
Star Wars (original trilogy), T2, The Dark Knight, Gladiator, Contact, 500 Days of Summer, ALIENS, Star Trek: First Contact, Titanic, there's really a zillion of these...

Worst:
Similarly a zillion of these, but I think almost all Quentin Tarantino films qualify.
 
Worst, by far, is Battlestar Galactica. Other bad endings will just screw themselves over--"TatV", for instance, is a terrible episode but says little about ENT itself--but Galactica's was so aggressively bad, that it wasn't just internally a steaming pile of crap (both rushed and wasteful, incoherent thematically and in terms of storyline, and just generally the epitome of lazy writing), it retroactively ruined the entire series. I had unwisely pre-ordered the Caprica mini earlier that year, and it has sat unwatched on my shelf lo these many months as I just can't bring myself to forget how terribly "Daylight" screwed everything over to watch anything Galactica-related again.


This is precisely how I feel. I haven't touched my Galactica DVDs since Daybreak. It was like a cancer capable of going back in time and ruining every good of Galactica before it.

Broadly speaking, I agree that Daybreak is terrible as an ending and I would definitely give it my vote for "Worst" for its sins against plot continuity, character continuity, real history and common sense (among other things). There's that whole thing about throwing away technology. (Well, the colonial fleet had pretty much been reduced to savagery anyway, so why not complete the transition?). Also, it's hard to think of many of the settlers who don't just deserve to be f***ing airlocked for one reason or another.

However, as an episode it does have a lot going for it. Like a lot of BSG's final act, it largely works very well as a mood piece and it does have a thrilling battle with fine special effects work. Bear McCreary does some fine work with the music, too.

Caprica is well worth a look. Tonally it's a bit like a mashup between The Godfather and a near-future sci-fi drama. Could be the next big thing.

Best ending? The best that I can think of right now is probably Blake's Seven. Bleak as hell, but on a manageable level and entirely consistent with the tone and trajectory of the overall series. The ending left you wondering in just the right way,too.
 
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TV - Best endings

- nuBSG: IMHO a powerful, insightful and daring finale that draws on various threads and ideas set up throughout the show. It’s a reminder of how everything began, in many ways, and a showcase of how much the characters have changed due to everything that has happened. It pays close attention to its characters yet doesn’t fail to thrill in its action scenes, just like I felt the series always did. At its core, I feel it is a story about a life worth living and hope. The ending, thus, is bittersweet and beautiful and has me longing to go back and re-watch everything. “Daybreak” has its flaws but I only have minor complaints, to be honest.

- DS9: A powerful two hours that brings closure to most of the storylines set up throughout the show, if not all. The endings for each of the characters are fitting and often bittersweet (Sisko, for example, or Odo) or downright devastating (Garak). The final scene, as the camera pans away from the station, as well as the montage sequence are moving and powerful IMHO. My biggest complaint is probably that the actual encounter between Sisko and Dukat is absolutely underwhelming given all the setup we got. I do like where both of them (as well as Winn) end up. I just don’t like how they get there, basically. It’s also a great shame that Jadzia is not in the flashbacks, but there you are. It’s also a shame that so many shots were re-used during the battle scenes. But I can live with that. So no, WYLB is by no means perfect. But I think it’s a fitting and very powerful ending to DS9.

- B5: A very quiet, contemplative piece that really draws upon all the character work done throughout the show. It’s both nice and saddening to see the characters again, at this later point in time. I think it rings very true as B5’s ending (or maybe it’s more of an epilogue, I don’t know) and is just a beautiful episode, I think.


TV - Worst endings

- VOY: Let me preface this by saying that my expectations when it came to VOY were pretty much non-existent by the time the final season and the finale came around. Still, “Endgame” managed to shock me and made me happy that I was no longer invested in the show. To me, it was simply a giant ‘we don’t care anymore’ on the part of the creative staff. Personally, I think all the action and the business with the Borg, time travel, Admiral Janeway, etc. should (if featured at all) have been cut down to an absolute minimum. After seven years away, in my eyes, the real meat of the story was in the crew’s return. And that we basically saw nothing of. The show ended when it should have started, I think.

- ENT: Again, I was not invested in this show when I saw the ending. And, again, I was still amazed by what the creative staff had come up with. This would have been fine as a mid-season episode, I think. But as a finale it seems almost insulting, to be honest. This was an episode of TNG featuring ENT characters, and not even the real ones, just Holodeck replicas. Terrible IMHO.


Movies - Best endings

- Blade Runner (Final Cut): I can’t really say much about this other than I feel it’s a pitch perfect ending for one of my all-time favorites. Batty’s final scenes with the beautiful “…like tears in rain…” line are particularly memorable. But Deckard finding the paper unicorn and him and Rachael heading off into an uncertain future is also very powerful I think.

- 2001: A mesmerizing, at times confusing but always powerful and engaging way to end such an amazing movie, I think. Again, I don’t really have much to say other than that I think it’s a wonderful ending.

- Unbreakable: This is such a quiet movie, really. Slowly building its story, letting it unfold naturally and really drawing you in to the lives of both the main characters. It’s both surprising and fitting, then, the way it ends. David and Elijah truly are on opposite ends of the same spectrum. And, basically, it’s been evident throughout the movie. But I think part of the appeal is that you don’t want things to end badly. ‘Mr. Glass’ has struggled so much in his life. You don’t want him to ‘fall’ yet again. But it’s clear that he has to, in the final analysis. There can be no other ending, really.

- Terminator 3: I enjoy the movie as a whole. But I think it truly is most powerful in its uncompromising ending. This is where it – if only briefly – manages to really connect with its predecessors, I think.

- Planet of the Apes: The ending is surprising, shocking and spot-on, I think. Not really much else I can say about this one, I think.

- A Scanner Darkly: One of my favorite movies of late, it ends on such a gut-wrenching and bittersweet note, I think it’s fantastic. Seeing Bob, almost completely destroyed by Substance D, wandering the almost endless plantations, unaware of his own plight and that of mankind as a whole is just immensely powerful, I think. Add to that some of PKD’s most beautiful words: “I saw death rising from the earth, from the ground itself, in one blue field. A present for my friends... at Thanksgiving.”


Movies - Worst endings:

- A.I.: This is always a tricky one for me. I adore the soundtrack. And my favorite piece, “Stored Memories and Monica’s Theme”, is from the final scenes of the movie. Yet in terms of the movie itself I’m still baffled by how Spielberg was able to NOT end the film where IMHO it should have. This is truly a modern fairytale. And what better place could there have been than with David eternally begging the Blue Fairy to turn him into a real boy at the bottom of the ocean? Everything after that, to me, felt forced and absolutely unnecessary.

- Sunshine: Technically, it’s not just the ending. But I think I just have to list this one here. This has been discussed in great detail here on the board so I won’t comment on it much. Suffice it to say it felt to me like a beautiful, quiet and introspective science fiction movie turned into ‘Event Horizon’ after about two thirds, effectively destroying everything that had come before.

- Terminator 4: My problems with T4’s ending probably have a lot to do with the film itself. The movie never once shows us why Connor is so incredibly special. It’s simply stated by himself and others but there is nothing to undermine this notion. I don’t want to go into spoiler territory. So suffice it to say I have problems with the ending mainly because of this particular issue.


I’m sure there’s more. But that’s all I can think of right now. And I hope everyone enjoyed a Christmas without bad endings :).
 
^I watched Blade Runner: The Final Cut last night, and have to agree. I was always wondering where everyone got the idea that Deckard was a replicant. Neat stuff.
 
I remember being very disappointed by the third and final OMEN movie, which struck me as incredibly anti-climatic. After two films of build-up and ominous prophecies, I was expecting an all-out "Final Conflict" between Good and Evil. Instead . . . .

SPOILER ALERT!

. . . Damien gets stabbed in the back by a holy dagger and a glowing Jesus appears in the sky. The End.

Huh? You call that an apocalypse? I wanted Armageddon, damnit!
 
Not going to rehash all of the great choices already mentioned....but I never liked the ending of The Ninth Gate. It was purposely left as uncertain I guess?

SPOILERS BELOW!!! (I think)

It has been a awhile but for some reason Johnny Depp starts banging the chick, actually the chick is banging him! then she starts to turn into a demon and the gate opens up and he walks of into the mountain side toward the figure in the sky??? I might have that all messed up but I remember liking the movie alot, but getting disappointed about the ending.

No, actually he bangs the chick as the castle burns. Then Depp goes back to the Spanish book dealers (who have disappeared, maybe been murdered, as there's men moving stuff out of the shop) and discovers the missing page (the book dealing brothers counterfeited the one Frank Langella used). Then Depp apparently goes back to the castle...

What he gets out of meeting Satan? I can't remember, I've read theories on the ending. That Depp himself was the Devil and didn't know it. That the chick was the devil and wanted Depp specifically to be the one to open the gate. (I don't buy that one, she's a demon, but not the devil.)


Ahhh yes, I remember the banging scene, then Depp went back to the shop to see it being closed and it's contents packed up and moved away. He finds the missing page and sees the correct initials AT or something like that. The image is different. Then what? He goes back to the castle looking for the chick I guess? Then the scene pulls back to look like the image from the book with him walking toward the gate in the sky? Was it something like that?

I very much liked the movie but felt the ending was weird.

What a terrible, terrible thing to do to an absolutely amazing, amazing book.

Sigh.
 
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