Doesn't tell us much other than they are all trying very hard to get it right. We'll have to wait to see what that translates to onscreen.
SCI-FI article about new Trek movie is online
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I loved the whole, "We can't do that" line. Orci, layin' down some Trek Law bidness. 
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Kirk may well have been married to Marcus - we don't know anything that contradicts that. We simply know that Marcus considered their relationship to be in the past at the time that David was born.
Would be pretty cool, actually.
Would be pretty cool, actually.
I don't believe that any of the producers or actors used the phrase "love letter to the fans," BTW - the author of the article did.
For all we know, according to the thrice-blessed "canon," Christopher Pike is the first captain of the Enterprise. April is apocryphal, appearing only in the animated series (and in an episode about a universe where everyone ages backwards, of all things).
For all we know, according to the thrice-blessed "canon," Christopher Pike is the first captain of the Enterprise. April is apocryphal, appearing only in the animated series (and in an episode about a universe where everyone ages backwards, of all things).
Nice article, they're still saying all the right things, I guess at this point it's a big wait and see game.
Would have liked to see a picture of Chris Pine. Still need to start envisioning him as Kirk, not happenin' yet...more spy pics, please!
Would have liked to see a picture of Chris Pine. Still need to start envisioning him as Kirk, not happenin' yet...more spy pics, please!
Oh, but it's marvelous. When Roddenberry and Jefferies and Theiss were putting "Star Trek" together they were very conscious of the space program and of the astronauts, who were contemporary American heroes.
That's part of what gave the characters and visualization of the show a certain indefinable quality beyond the naval/military analogy that Meyer was so quick to grab hold of and manipulate.
For example, the reason enlisted grades are close to nonexistent in the original Trek has nothing to do with either an antimilitary bias or lack of knowledge on Roddenberry's part. He stated explicitly in those days that he considered the entire crew of the Enterprise to be the equivalent of modern-day astronauts, who were all officers and many of whom had advanced degrees.
Now, you can argue against the logic of that pretty easily and in several obvious ways, but it was his reasoning.
That's part of what gave the characters and visualization of the show a certain indefinable quality beyond the naval/military analogy that Meyer was so quick to grab hold of and manipulate.
For example, the reason enlisted grades are close to nonexistent in the original Trek has nothing to do with either an antimilitary bias or lack of knowledge on Roddenberry's part. He stated explicitly in those days that he considered the entire crew of the Enterprise to be the equivalent of modern-day astronauts, who were all officers and many of whom had advanced degrees.
Now, you can argue against the logic of that pretty easily and in several obvious ways, but it was his reasoning.
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Sorry, Dennis.
Sorry, Dennis.
I just read it as an acknowledgement of Kirk & the gang as being explorers and popular heroes who routinely put their lives on the line. Bring a little swagger back into Star Trek, remind us that they live on the frontier. I thought that was right on the mark.
So they're astronauts on some kind of star trek? 
I was always looking for someone to confirm this idea (they're astronauts!) and here you just blurt it out? I've always suspected someone, Gene1 or Gene2, structured the ship to reflect the Space Program.
And spot on comment about Nick Meyer over doing the Horatio Hornblower with Star Trek, I think he once said he 'laid it on with a trowel'.
But you can't blame old Nick. He'd only vaguely heard of Star Trek before getting the job, and while he was brought up to speed on the characters and plots of the show, he still needed something to connect with. And he was a big Horatio Hornblower fan. There are similarities to Hornblower's adventures in TOS... but none of them are as blatant and obvious as they are in Meyer's two films, it's true.
Astronauts!?
"We Russians inwented space travel Keptain."
They recast Buzz Lightyear- Aldren!!!!
"We Russians inwented space travel Keptain."
They recast Buzz Lightyear- Aldren!!!!
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But you can't blame old Nick. He'd only vaguely heard of Star Trek before getting the job, and while he was brought up to speed on the characters and plots of the show, he still needed something to connect with. And he was a big Horatio Hornblower fan. There are similarities to Hornblower's adventures in TOS... but none of them are as blatant and obvious as they are in Meyer's two films, it's true.
Well, I don't think as little of ST:TWoK or ST:TUC as some, I think they are smart movies. I liked them despite the heavy lean towards Horatio (and cheeze). It's another vision of Trek and it has it's charms. I like Nick's stuff.
As much as Trek has exploring astronauts there's also the sub-plot of conflict with the neighbors. A Cold War in space, Trek definitely had this as much as the high ideals of peaceful exploration.
I remember in an interview with Shatner years ago (as he was wearing the costume from 'WALGMO') and he described Star Trek as 'British fleet in space'. I can't remember if he did mention Horatio Hornblower. Anyho', I know Gene R. used HH as an inspiration.
He's the one who did it, and he was quite pleased with it (as are many fans). Who should I pin it on instead?
